Abortion: Your Views...

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Ah, so you were being intentionally stupid when you tried to make the argument that abortion is good because a baby might grow up to be a serial killer. Just checking.

I never said that that would be a reason for aborting a child. I was merely giving you a contradiction to your theory that "every aborted baby is one life lost," by saying that if the baby isn't aborted, it could possibly grow up to be a serial killer, hence ending the lives of hundreds of people. Now, if that guy was aborted, the problem would have been solved before it ever started. Therefore, that proves that deciding to keep an unwanted pregnancy doesn't necessarily save lives.

But yet, you're still here discussing the subject, with full knowledge that you, apparently, don't understand the subject.

I wouldn't be discussing it if you would leave your man-crush that you have on me in the closet, right next to your homosexuality. For some reason you feel the need to respond to every single one of my comments, even though every single one of my comments doesn't need to be responded to.

Which means that, if left solely up to women, abortion would be illegal.

And you know that because you're a woman?

I'm saying that a woman shouldn't murder her child. I don't care if she raises it or gives it up for adoption.

Women murder children (embryos) all the time. It's called miscarriage.

Are you trying to say that a human embryo is not a human?

Nope.

And babies don't make people fat, it's the weight gained with the pregnancy. You will never find a woman who gets pregnant and gains no more weight than how much her baby weighs. Next?

It's a good thing I never said, nor hinted at that.

Your claim was that males have no right arguing about abortion. And here you are, arguing about abortion.

I'm not really arguing. I'm just kind of mocking you.

Embryonic heartbeat starts at about 22 days after conception. Keep it up, kid.

It starts at about six to eight weeks, actually. Abortions are from four weeks to twelve weeks, so I was right by two weeks.

Hitler killed a few million Jews, but he didn't kill you or anybody you know, so why do you care?

Hitler just so happened to have killed the grandparents of my mom's best friend.

Again. The big ****ing deal is the life of a human being.

Are you trying to save the world one embryo at a time? The human population is too big to begin with. I have no idea why you even care. You are a mystery.

That animals change their habitats into places that are more fitting for them and less fitting for other animals, just like humans do?

You apparently still didn't understand, which is understandable, considering that I'm conversing with you. You never understand anything. So, animals do change their environments to support what they need to live, but have you ever seen a zebra-paved road? How about an anteater metropolis? No. Okay, do you see my point yet?

Seeing as you have claimed before that you don't have a computer and that you go to the library down the street ... but wait, you've edited that post to no longer include the library comment. I guess only those of us who initially noticed it truly know how full of shit you are.

I actually deleted that because it's none of your concern. I didn't have a computer at the time, so yes, I did use the library's computer for a while. Full of shit? I think not.

You? Probably. Unless you had the tools and the knowledge to live off the land. No more fast food, no more fatty-cakes. I'd love to see that.

It's a good thing I know how to hunt. And just for the record, I don't like cake. It makes me too thirsty. Plus I'm not a fan of excessive sugar.

If a person is tried twice, it's double jeopardy. If an issue is tried twice, it's Judicial Review.

If a case is tried twice, it's double jeopardy.

Not only could I be tried again on appeal, or on the discovery of new evidence, I could be tried not only in civilian court, but in a military court martial under the UCMJ.

So you're in the military, huh? Let me get this straight, you have a problem with abortion, but you have no problem shooting somebody?

Three billion people in China? Damn, they've grown! By more than double ... in less than a year!

I came up with the number from memory. I was thinking 3.1, whereas, it's actually 1.3. So sue me. You make a big deal out of everything.

So I ask again. Is there any credible evidence for this?

Probably.

Maybe I should have been more clear. Anything credible to back this up?

Yes. That's how many more unwanted children would be alive.

Or adoption, of we choose not to murder our children.

Again, this comes down to overpopulation, apparently a concept that you don't understand.

You'd also have to include couples who want to adopt more than one child.

I was including those Madonna types. There would still be far too many children and not enough couples willing to adopt.

So you've gone from asserting that everybody without a "proper upbringing" becomes a drug addict or a prostitute, to claiming that it "happens a lot". I ask again, with the same low expectations, do you have anything credible to back up your asinine claims?

Yes. Psychology. Without proper upbringing, people, as adults, are really ****ed up. The majority of the time. If you want to test it, turn your household dysfunctional, and see what it does to your kid.

If somebody is "braindead", are they still alive?

Yes. You can't live without the brain.

Unfortunately, a 13-year-old is usually not cabable of carrying a child to term and coming out healthy, with a healthy child. In that circumstance -- and for that reason only -- abortion is a viable option. Otherwise, there's no reason to murder the child, only to give it to parents who will care for it.

What if the mother is doing drugs, such as cocaine, heroin, or alcohol during the early developmental stages of the brain? The brain would never develop properly, hence causing mental retardation, perhaps respiratory problems, perhaps cardiovascular problems. Wouldn't that be reason enough to abort the child?