If I took three months off school, Sasquatch, I'd have to repeat the year. I do not have time to do that. And then there's missing social events, and being a balloon in class. I'm a teenager. Besides which, I've already stated that I, personally, could probably never terminate my own child. I wouldn't like it, but I'd do my best to take responsibility. I'm just highlighting what a sacrifice it would be for a child that would be, ultimately and in name only, a mistake. I am glad that abortion exists, because most teenage mothers are rubbish. Age 18 and up, with a decent support network, you're probably ok. Below that and you're in trouble in parenting terms. Did you read recently about the 9 year old father from London? If there's a case for termination, it's what kind of children children raise. The baby's mother was 13.

I whittled my list of crap care services down to just the UK as it is the one I know most about, and I thought it would be easier if we just concentrate on one. My father was adopted, and it ****ed his life up. I've been in the periphery of the care system before, and I would rather a child of mine die than end up there.

This is interesting: 'Life is a fundamental right. It's not anybody's place to tell you that you have the choice to take a life for the sake of convenience or not.'

Says who? I mean, apart from the UN. But the UN Charter, as I understand, only covers people, not embryos, otherwise they'd be banding about using that same line to defend getting rid of abortion. Would I be right in saying that your views on this find a base in religion?

As for the rest of your post, it is clear that we are never going to agree. The same can be said of the socialism thread. You are built to live in America, I to live in Europe. I could never live over there, just like you would probably die from all the taxes and abortion parties over here. We are going around in circles.