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Also, I'm not saying that the man has nothing to do with the pregnancy or anything of the sort. What I'm saying is, that ultimately, it's up to the woman to make the final decision. I'm not gonna drag no woman to an abortion clinic and force her to get an abortion. This is why I say it's up to the woman. You know how people ask sometimes whether or not the woman is going to keep the baby? Well, who's that question directed at? The one who's pregnant! Correct! Just so you know, I haven't impregnated anybody yet, but I've been around pregnant women before. I was living with my sister through her two pregnancies. It's not as good as living with someone that I've actually gotten pregnant, but it should be close enough for you, so here I say, **** you.
Just because a woman becomes pregnant doesn't mean that it's THEIR decision and THEIR decision alone. Having a baby is, as it was said, a SERIOIUS thing, even if it happens by accident. What Sasquatch is explaining is that a man should have much to say about an abortion as the woman. The problem is you're putting your partner's own feelings about the matter out the door without a chance of knowing what he really feels. I mean you do realize men have emotions and the like, right? Just because a woman has the child doesn't mean it doesn't affect the man who helped create that child. He may not be walking around for 9 months with a child in his belly, but he's as responsible for that child as much as you are, hence the responsibility splits BOTH WAYS, not just towards the mother.

The way you're handling this is almost as if you don't care, thus Sasquatch saying that you're irresponsible. He's right too because that's not just an egg, it's a living organism. All living things have the right to live and if you wish to destroy that because it's "inconvenient" is truly irresponsible. It might be unfair that you became pregnant, but now you have to deal with the consequences that you KNEW were there beforehand. (Having sex = chance of pregnacy)

Lastly, the **** you was uncalled for.

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Of course I know that more men support abortion than women! It's common sense! I mean, a man did legalize the practice, after all.
Do you have any evidence to support that assumption? Do you think men were the only ones who suggested abortion? Like do you know Madem Restell? She was someone in the 19th-20th century who created birth control pills and surgically did abortions as well.

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In the society of the United States, the man is considered the head of the household. With this logic, the man will be providing the majority of the income, therefore, the man is also providing and paying the majority of the expenses for the child.
You do realize that was very sexist of you, both against men and women? Just because it has become normalized in today's society that "men are the breadwinners of the household" doesn't mean that's the way things are in modern times. In fact, there are many households where women are the ones making the most money, hence they being the breadwinners (like my own mother). So not only do you generalize men as being the ones who are SUPPOSE to pay child support, you also insult the women who make the most money in their homes. Why do men HAVE to pay child-support and then be jailed for being so poor that they can only provide for themself?

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This can be a problem for many men, if the child came from a fling with some woman or something of the sort. Some guys just don't want to support a child, therefore, they will try to get the woman to have an abortion.
This is the common view society has about men and honestly, you're out of line when you assume only men want to have abortions because they have to pay their partner (x) amount over years. What about the women who purposely get pregnant so they can abuse the child-support law and get free money from their lovers? Of course, women are such noble creatures that they'd never do such a thing, right?


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The reason that a lot of women are against abortion is because of the trauma and emotional stress that comes from it, along with the ongoing thoughts of a dead baby being squeezed out of them. They had a living being inside of them that needed them, and they abandoned it. An abortion is harder for a woman than a man. Prove me wrong on that, mother****er.
Right, women are the only ones who go through traumatic stress of seeing their own children they helped create die and deal with the emotional stress. Since men are insensitive and unemotional creatures, they must be celebrating the death of their own child. Yes, that what happens in the real world. Women are the only ones who suffer. You are so kind and understanding to know that.

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It's true.. Guys will help women through the pregnancy and give them support. I'm sorry if I worded it in an immature and stupid way, but overall, that's how it is. The man helps her get around, supports her during the pregnancy, and them some. I guess I was thoughtless. I was wrong on that one, and I apologize.
That's not how it is. It's a painted picture created by misandrist and extreme feminist alike who try to show the world that women are the only victims of everyday life. Still, I'm glad you apologized to him.

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So you're saying that if you can't handle a child, then... uhm... well ****, I can't think of anything intelligent to come back with to that. ****.
He's saying what I just said earlier. He's explaining that having a child and deciding on getting an abortion or not is an IMPORTANT RESPONSIBLE DECISION you try think twice, no three times about.

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Nobody is truly ready for sex their first time. Why do you think that people are always nervous or embarrassed during their first time? Just thought I'd throw that out there.
No, but people can take precautions and understand that pregnancy can result from sex, even if you take those same precautions. When you have sex, you have to remind yourself that there is a consequence and it's name is "baby".

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I believe more in keeping the child and giving it up for adoption when it’s born, just so you know. I’d rather not push a woman to go get an abortion. And, if the woman did get an abortion, I wouldn’t feel good about it, but luckily, I’m Catholic, so all I’d have to do is go to Confession, and all of my being will be cleansed!
I’m not a supporter of abortion, like a lot of men, but I know that there are a good amount of women that are, even if the majority of women are against it.
Wait, what? It sounds like you're going to take this so lightly just because you can go talk to a priest and he says you're forgiven. If you believe that you can be guilt-free from such a thing by going to confession, you are sadly mistaken.

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Tell me, Sasquatch, are you a religious person? It seems like you might be a little bit on the extreme side of Christianity there, since you seemed to mix a little bit of sarcasm with forceful sentences in your posts. Everyone has their beliefs, so let’s just keep this thread about posting one’s beliefs and informing people a little more on all the aspects of the topic, is that okay with you? Because I really don’t want to get into a flame war with you.
Yes, he is religious, but he's not enforcing his religious beliefs on anyone. He's stating his opinion about abortion, that's all. Don't assume that just because he's religious that he's some gun-totting, redneck, bible thumper.