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    Quote Originally Posted by chrono View Post

    Oh, and gypys elder a very basic law of logic is that one connot be called to prove a negative. In other words we do not have to give you reasons for being an atheist the burden of proof is on you because you are the one making the claim.
    Who said anything about proof? I'm not asking you to prove anything to me, I would much rather see reasons why you think the way you do, because I'm interested not to prove you wrong.

    I.E. if i said a pink unicorn made the universe you do not have to waste your time trying to prove me wrong......
    A pink unicorn didn't make the universe?

    it is i that must provide evidence for my claim. The burden of proof is always on the person making the claim not the one who laughs at you for believing in virgin births and talking snakes(assuming you are a christian).
    erm.....no not Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy Elder View Post
    Who said anything about proof? I'm not asking you to prove anything to me, I would much rather see reasons why you think that way because I'm interested not to prove you wrong.
    I get what you are saying do you get what i am saying?


    The point is i do not have to formulate any reasons. you need to ask the believers to give you reasons as to why they believe in eternal life and invisible overseers.They are the ones that "think a certain way".

    I do not collect coins or stamps or believe in elves or cherubs either do i have to give you an intelligent reason as to why i do not do and believe in those things to?

    Just because millions of people do or believe in such things does not automatically make it a truth or a reasonable theory that you have to have a "reason" to not believe in.

    Edit: It seems to me that since so many people are religious and we are not that we(atheist\agnostics) must have some special reason as to why we are not following the trend and that special reason is what you want to know. Am i right?
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    What is the point of this thread now ?....

    Quote Originally Posted by chrono View Post
    Just because millions of people do or believe in such things does not automatically make it a truth or a reasonable theory that you have to have a "reason" to not believe in.
    I have my own "reasons" for believing in what I do just like everyone else, I didn't just fart a belief, and roll with it.

    I get what you are saying do you get what i am saying?


    The point is i do not have to formulate any reasons. you need to ask the believers to give you reasons as to why they believe in eternal life and invisible overseers.They are the ones that "think a certain way".

    I do not collect coins or stamps or believe in elves or cherubs either do i have to give you an intelligent reason as to why i do not do and believe in those things to?[


    Edit: It seems to me that since so many people are religious and we are not that we(atheist\agnostics) must have some special reason as to why we are not following the trend and that special reason is what you want to know. Am i right?
    You missed it.

    I was looking for different "reasons", as in to see things in a different point of view, opposite from my own beliefs, but all you're doing still, is pointlessly going on about how you don't have to prove anything to me, which I'm not expecting out of you/ think you can.


    Why would you even bother looking at a religions thread?
    Last edited by GypsyElder; 01-07-2010 at 12:04 AM.

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    From The Clint Eastwood
    I'm thinking about creating a hybrid. A dolphin-monkey. Half dolphin, half monkey. Do you think it's possible?
    I was thinking that since I'm artificially creating it, I'll create it with rocket fuel instead of blood, and thus it will be able to fly, using the dolphin's dorsal fins as wings. And from the air, it will look down upon us all and protect us against sharks, and search for bananas.
    Block says:" this one time i got SUPER blazed and was riding with my friend to mcd's and i ran my fingers through my jew fro saying "I just feel like dancing"
    by Alpha: "Hate breeds hate. Love breeds love. F*ck real politik."
    Originally Posted by Michael Swayne
    I find Gypsy to be a very interesting person. In fact, when my hair grows out some more, Gypsy has already laid claim to it when I cut it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy Elder View Post



    I have my own "reasons" for believing in what I do, I didn't just fart a belief, and roll with it.



    You missed it.

    I was looking for different "reasons", as in to see things in a different point of view, opposite from my own beliefs, but all you're doing still, is pointlessly going on about how you don't have to prove anything to me, which I'm not expecting out of you/ think you can.


    Why would you even bother looking at a religions thread?
    what i was posting is the atheist point of view from a true atheist. I went a little deeper than your original question but your question was answered in full.

    my post was not just me saying i do not have to prove anything to you. you are oversimplifying it. I provided a reason as to why the atheist does not have\need to provide a reason for disbelief in superstions.

    you said something along the lines of it takes more heart or strength(something like that) to believe in superstions. i provided the reason why an atheist is not superstitious and the reasons why he does not have to provide a reason for it by stating that the burden of proof is on the believer(and it is).

    long story short you got your "reasons" for an opposing\diffrent view.

    I am not even going to address ann b.

    Friedrich Nietzsche>ann b

    last i posted in this thread because it is titled religions-YOUR OPINION.

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