Quote Originally Posted by Victoria View Post
Well, the way I see it is, when you say that the Xbone outshines stock computers, that's not fair. Because of course it does. Plain cheap stock computers, sure. If you build one on dell or hp.com or alienware, that's a different story.

Don't take the 'custom built' computers out of the equation. That isn't fair to the argument at hand. Isn't that what's called strawman argument? If you take out the example that disproves your side and only mention the stuff that proves it, then of course your side of the argument is sound and correct.

But oh well. I don't like to go too deep into arguments like this. You have your side and I have mine. xP
Ah then my apologies if I worded it wrong but that's what I meant, and I wasn't excluding hardcore gaming computers it was just a meer general observation that both the xbone and ps4 outshine stock coms, and when you look at the stats both consoles push out 1.6ghz whereas one of the uper grade coms was only 1.5ghz and if I said the ps4 would outshine even most serious gaming pcs then I wouldn't be lying seeing as the Radeon 7870 is 5th on the board for best GPU for 2013.

Quote Originally Posted by Incognitus View Post
Kind of expounding on the ongoing discussion here:

Not that any of this post matters to the dedicated console gamer, but you have to consider the long-term.

Stock or not, intrinsically PC technology will surpass the tech within any console pretty quickly due to the constant improvements being made to core components. Expandable storage, upgradable RAM, nextgen processing... you get the idea. There are also more options available from any number of quality manufacturers.

Improvements in the PC industry move at a faster pace than a typical console's lifespan, which is generally what? 4-5 years? PC parts are made to be swappable so there's a greater growth in power over time---power that a console sitting on an entertainment center shelf for half a decade can only dream about having.

Consoles may make bigger jumps in power between generations but PCs make a longer series of shorter jumps that don't plateau somewhere between console releases.

Hell, I'm not even sure you can upgrade the *hard drives* in these next generation consoles, which would worry me if everything needs to be installed from the disc like with the Xbox One. I haven't heard one way or the other on this point. Does anyone know this?

Most console gamers accept these tradeoffs, though. But honestly, consoles are a poor man's PC. This is especially true as the gap in power draws closer between the two.
You do have a valid point, and the fact that pcs have more variables that can be manually upgraded with out having to replace the whole system gives them and advantage.

Quote Originally Posted by Mystyrion View Post
If I'm not mistaken you can use external hard drive on the Xbox 1

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This is true, usb ports for external hardrives, as did the the old gen don't know about the ps4 though.