Bleach Club

[Oathkeeper13]

Theres alot of things in Bleach that havn't been explained. What the Vaizard are, the Espada, the Arrancar and their goals and why certain families in soul society are more famous than others.

My guess is probably because there more powerful in fighting and politically maybe. The Kuchki family would be a good example. Then I again im just guessing.

The More I think about it the more it seems that Bleach is goanna be a long long story line. Cause you know all the captains and soul reapers, Vaizard will all play apart in the war as the Squad 1 Captain leader said.

I just wish the story would just move a little faster.

[Xeim]

Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with Oathkeeper. Nothing has really been explained, but it would make sense that some the most powerfull and responsible shinigami are chosen to head the noble families and then they choose other members based on how powerful (and/or responsible) they are. Rukia was brought into the family for neither reason. He rreason for being in the Kuchiki family is explained later on.

Most noble families have responibilities in Soul Society other then being there as political figures. Like, the Kuchiki family keeps track of Soul Society's history I believe. So, it requires the head of family to be just as responible as they are powerful. We wouldn't want to see someone like Kenpachi heading a noble family.

I was shopping for manga the other day, and I picked up the latest bleach one. The english dubs actually aren't that far behind the current translated manga. It suprised me actually.

So, where exactly are Adult Swim watchers in the series now?

[Andromeda]

Well last night's episode of Bleach ended with Kenpachi appearing. It seemed like he was excerting his spiritual pressure on them as only Ichigo was able to remain close to up right and even he was having trouble with that. I bet that Ichigo could probably go for one of those recharging pills with all of the fighting that he was doing.

Though they had the first hint of Ichigo's hollow powers appearing last week when they showed a mask that was hidden under his clothes that had apparently blocked Renji's strike. All sorts of interesting there.

Also got to see Momo's Shikai which was a strange prickly pronged thing. And it apparently has the ability to discharge pink energy of some sort. I don't know what element it is considered, but it was interesting. And Squad 3's Vice Captain showed off his Shikai as well, the bent in a 'U' shape Zenpukto which is strange in its own rights. Though I don't know how useful it really is. But I guess ask Kenshin how powerful his reverse blade is, might not kill but it still hurts a lot getting the back end of a sword.

Then the kid captain shows up and stops them from fighting while Ichimaru is just smiling there as always. Even if he did nothing him taunting Momo and always smiling makes him look just as guilty.

And Chad is going to face a captain himself soon from the looks of it. Which does not look too healthy for him since he is not as strong as Ichigo. He will probably put up a decent fight, but I see it being a little one sided. But who knows, Chad might surprise me.

I can't wait to see Ichigo and Kenpachi fight though, that is going to be a fun fight to watch the two of them. Though I am a little curious to see what Orihime and Ishida are up to after beating that one Shinigami.

[Xeim]

Momo's zanpuktou is considered fire-element I believe. As for Kira's (third squad vice-captain) it does have a funny shape, but it doesn't just cut. Whatever it touches doubles in weight with each blow they take.

Oh yeah, Chad fights Kyoraku. I'd almost forgotten about that. Its a pretty interesting fight, but I remember screaming that I'd rather be watching the fight with Kenpachi and Ichigo. Its pretty hard to not go into detail and spoil things for you. My posts seem so...uncaring.

Yeah, the fight with Ichigo and Kenpachi is pretty cool. I can't wait to discuss it in here. I really like Kenpachi, heck I like almost all the shinigami. The only one I don't like is the 12th division captain. He's just too "slimy" for my liking. I hate the way treats his vice-captain, and what he makes her wear! ugh.

[Andromeda]

The Squad 12 captain is the one with the mask right? And his vice-captain wears a sort of skirt or mini-skirt sort of cloths. Isn't the cloths though her choice, unless she wears other things besides the Shinigami cloths? But I can understand not liking him, he is a pretty creepy suspicious person. Funny more people do not like Gin, but Gin is actually charming in a villainous, scheming sort of way. Plus its hard to be handsome behind a creepy mask.

And Kira's sword makes you double in weight? I remember reading something about that. That has to make for a pretty powerful sword. So as long as he can parry or block an attack enough times, the opponent will succome to the weight eventually. Would it only my the Zanpukto heavy or the person as well? But it does require him to actually make contact. Since if he is not fast enough to keep up, he would die anyway.

Since Hitsugaya blocked Kira's attack did that mean that his sword doubled in weight at the moment. It probably did not matter since the fight did not go anywhere. How long would it take to wear off the affects? Because that has to be a really annoying ability if it lasts for a long time.

But I've been saying I want to see Ichigo and Kenpachi fight since Kenpachi has been looking for him. And then I have been hearing the fight hyped up. So I am really interested in seeing it. It is really annoying that all we got was a tease this week, but it is about to start though. And Kenpachi seriously has bells on the edges of his spikes? That's a little disturbing for someone like that, but I guess it can make the opponent unnerved by the sounds.

[Xeim]

Kira's sword doubles the weight of whatever it touches. If it touches you, you become heavier. If it touches your zanpukto, your zanpukto becomes heavier. You're right, if he's not quick, then he'll die, but if you attack him, and he blocks you with his zapukto, its the same as him attacking you. Especially useful if your opponent doesn't know what it does. I'm not quite sure how long the effects last though. It would make sense for them to wear off once he pulls his shikai back in though.

Well, I believe you see the hindrance of those bells during the fight. Even if you can't see him, you can still hear him. But it does seem a bit...girly for a guy like him.

And for the 12th sdivision captain- I don't really think the vice captain would wear such a revealing outfit by choice. He's basically her master. She can't make decisions for herself. And, the things he does to hang onto life. Its really gross all of the things he's invented. Definately my least favorite character.

I hated Gin at first, but then as we saw more of his character, I began to like him. You're right, he's a very charming villain, sort of care-free but completely serious at the same time.

[Andromeda]

I see. So the Squad 12 Vice-Captain has no control over what she wants to do? That is pretty cruel of him to be doing that. Is she even a real soul or whatever if he has such control over her? But I guess it is pretty clear equality in the afterlife is a joke. Does she even have a Zanpukto? I don't recall if I have seen it or not.

Where are we going mark out what is and is not a spoiler. Since Adult Swim will reach points in the story eventually. Things that Adult Swim show do you want to stop using the spoiler cover or you do want to continue to use it for the major revealing events?

And last night I discovered the Shinigami Golden Cup on youtube. I'm not sure if you have seen it, from what I have gathered it is a 30 second clip at the end of episodes. What it is really funny some of them because they completely make fun of a lot of the characters. They have a lot of fun with Hitsugaya and Matsomoto, I think that is how it is spelled. Always calling him a kid and giving him candy. The other white haired captain was having fun with him. Then they have fun with Byakayuo or whatever his name is by having him attend Vice-Captain meetings. It's funny when the little girl says he spoke. Squad 6 Captain does have the habit of being the quiet stoic type. Then Renji complains about needing a hair cut to the Captain and asks him how he keeps his hair so neatly cut. He says that he has Senbonzakura cut it at which point Renji is agape about it, but not too surprised. Then he says that he was joking. And Renji is like, "You made a joke?"

On the subject of the creepy 12th Squad Captain, he was in the Shinigami's Women Club standing in for his Vice-Captain. That was really weird, but about the only time he actually seemed funny. And then the Squad 2 Captain is blushing and staring at pictures of the female form the talking cat that helps out Ichigo and co. I was laughing for like 30 minutes, since watched all of them.

[Xeim]

We haven't seen her zanpuktou, no.

As soon as AS has seen it, I don't consider it a spoiler anymore. If you miss the episode, you miss the episode, and you'll most likely ask a firend what happened anyway.

I absolutely love shinigami's cup. Some of them are stupid, and, still laughing from the preview, I'll kinda have an empty grin on my face through the whole thing. Others however almost kill me from the lack of oxygen stolen from laughing. One of my favorites is when Matsumoto and Hitsugaya are standing in front a health club. Matsumoto's talking about how exciting it is to be able to finish their paperwork in a nice hot bath. So, they go in and walk up to the lady at the front desk. Matsumoto proceeds to say who's bathing. The lady says "Minors aren't allowed to bathe alone" and Hitsugaya gets this really annoyed expression on his face. Then, to make things worse, Matsumoto says "Then we can bathe together!" with an innocent little look on her face.

I also like the one where Byakuya's attending one of the meetings (I can't remember if it was women's club or vice-captain) but Yachiru (the little pink haired vice captain) starts bugging him about something, and he just shoves some sort of foodstuff into her mouth. My memory's not very good right now, so forgive me for lack of detail.

[Andromeda]

Yeah, I know the ones you are talking about. It so funny how Byakuya so readily handles her too. Just pulls out a bean jam bun, I think, nearly stuffs it in her. Though she was pretty willing, I guess she has a thing for food or those things. She does have a ton of energy that would make anyone want to shut her up. The one in the health club was funny too, poor little guy is always getting made fun of for one thing or another. Matsumoto is talking about make up during one of them and he appears behind her.

There was one the one where they used that bald guys head to be the moon. He gets made fun of that too. I think they had something where he was getting a hair cut or something, but he is bald. There are so much of those.

And so where ever AS is will be the marker. That sounds good. At least it will be easy on me since I will typically only know about that and nothing more ahead.

[Shadowtheif]

Ok back all what I miss?

[Andromeda]

There was no Bleach last night, stupid Futurama was on all night. I don't know why they would put such sacrilege over top of Bleach, which is a far better show to be showing. AS even had a Bleach marathon showing 14 episodes all night, that was very enjoyable.

So now I have to wait another week for Kenpachi and Ichigo to get their fight started which is annoying me. I wanted to see it begin last night. Not to mention they were playing another abomination over top of Toonami, Pokemon. For 33 hours, horrible weekend for anime.

As for you question about has happened. I don't know how long you have been gone to answer that accurately. The RP started up, but aside from that there have just been discussions on Bleach. So it would be easier to read through the pages if you want to do that.

But it's been so quiet in here. We need to new topic of discussion or something. I don't know how much I can be of help with that since my Bleach knowledge is limited to the episodes I have seen and what spoilers I allow myself. Which is probably more than I should have. On that note, what's up with the Captain with the helmet? He is a dog underneath it right? I was so confused by that, is it another one of the strange experiments or something. Because that is just odd, not even being human.

[Xeim]

Oh wow, that's torturous. I hate it when they skip a week. Japan recently did the same thing and I almost died. I would have if I didn't have Naruto to keep me going.

Yes, it has been too quiet. I haven't had a lot of time to be on lately, and when I am, I haven't posted in here. I'm partly to blame, so please for give me.

Yeah, the dog-like captain. They never really explain him I don't think. I was absolutely shocked when they first revealed his true form though.

I have a question. Was anyone suprised by the way Society looked? I know that I was expecting this magnificent castle. I actually never pictured much of an outdoor area. I just thought that there would be a huge castle surround by a small village, and that most people would live inside the castle, and the shinigami would be cnetered out of the town. Never did I expect for it to be an impoverished world with a slightly corruped governement. I don't know was any one else expecting something different from what it actually was?

[Andromeda]

Yeah, the Soul Society is not the heaven and paradise that the afterlife is pictured to be. There was those small gleamces that we would see of Soul Reapers in some place that looked like Feudal Japan, but I do not really think that it was the Soul Society, exactly. I just figured that it was the place that the Soul Reapers stayed. I did not really think that the souls lived there too.

Considering the first half of the first season paints one picture, it is really jarring when you get there and find out that it is nothing like what you were expecting. Seeing that people were struggling to get by, in spite of being dead and that people would get killed and steal. It is not the image that was in mind to begin with. Not to mention Soul Reapers seemed noble and kind people, when they are just human beings like everyone else. And as such they have all of the emotions that they do, even being corrupt and manipulative.

Definitely not what I was really expecting. Though with all of the hints, I think the image of Feudal Japan as the afterlife was not really a surprise. The fact that conditions in the afterlife are actually worse than living, well. Makes you second guess wanting to die, as said from the fact that it still the better of two evils. Looking at it from that view, it is rather frightening that the afterlife is almost no better than the other place.

[Xeim]

Yeah, it is a scary thought. To think that the afterlife is worse then life. Then again, its all a matter of perspective. All of this technology can be considered a great scar on our world, and that it could eventually lead to our downfall. Soul Society depicts the fact that lack of technology can keep us safer, and that suffering is a small price to pay.

You'd think that the "protectors of Soul SOciety" would protect it more though. They only care about seiritai. Well, a majority of souls live in Rukongai. It seems a little strange that they are let to fend for themselves. It almost makes me think that the shinigami are selfish and lazy, and that they don't care enough about the people or are too lazy to protect them.

[Andromeda]

Yeah, it would seem like they would want to protect them more. And some of them do seem to care about the Rukongai. But it is pretty obvious that even though all Soul Reapers probably came from the Rukongai they want to forget that part of their past. Not to mention that it can be really rough for some of them, so they probably are not interested in helping those that looked down on them or were mean to them.

The job of the Soul Reaper is aid souls and fight Hollows and yet it doesn't look like most of them do that. Though I guess that is for later when things get really nasty. But it does seem like all they are doing is setting behind those nice tall walls not caring about thing but themselves and the corrupt system that they have. Though in spite of all that, there are so good one in the bunch as usual.

Would be interesting to see Byakuya and where he came from. He is always so cold about everything, so knowing why he is that way and if he actually was ever a happy person would be interesting. Not to mention it would nice to know how old he is. Because what does Byakuya really care about, he seems more interested in honor of the family and keeping order. He is powerful, but does not do much with it other than to get in Ichigo's way.

[Azuteor]

Hya Xeim! We've talked over Blab! If it is alright with you, I would like to join the club since it devotes itself to the anime I am addicted to the most! Currently, I have and watch the japanese episodes (50-127), thanks to a friend of mine for giving me them. My favorite character is Toshiro Hitsugaya because he is the character I can relate to the most and has an awesome Bankai. I also like Ichigo. XD Also, I enjoy drawing anime and I am currently learning Tite Kubo's art style.

Would be interesting to see Byakuya and where he came from. He is always so cold about everything, so knowing why he is that way and if he actually was ever a happy person would be interesting. Not to mention it would nice to know how old he is. Because what does Byakuya really care about, he seems more interested in honor of the family and keeping order. He is powerful, but does not do much with it other than to get in Ichigo's way.

2Andromeda: Eventually, there will be an episode that will explain why Byakuya has a cold personality, why he is so devoted to honor his family, and if he was a happy person. If you have watched the japanese episodes then please do read the spoiler, but if not, do not unless you are sure you won't regret it.

Spoiler: The episode Byakuya talks about this issue is on episode 62. Just after Aizen, Tousen, and Gin escape to Hueco Mundo everyone who attempted to stop them are being treated by the 11th division. Although, it was Ichigo and Renji who suffer fatal wounds from fighting Aizen. Just before Aizen and company left, Aizen stole the Hougyoku from Rukia through a technique that pulls out something that has intertwined and buried within the soul. The first plan Aizen intended to get the Hougyoku was through Rukia's execution. By burning the upper layer, the soul, by an extremely hot and destructive force, Soukyoku, and removing the Hougyoku is the first way. The second way is to forcefully seperate it by a method that directly interferes with the soul's composition. For this to work, Aizen needed the information from Urahara Kisuke's past research since he created the technique to bury matter within a soul. How does Urahara's research deal with Rukia and the Hougyoku? The thing is... Urahara could not control the power of the Hougyoku and he needed a host to sustain it. He picked Rukia has the host, obviously. This is the reason why he gave Rukia a gigai that kept her from using any of her powers and to hide her from anyone who desired the Hougyoku. This is alot to take in is it not? Suprisingly, fifteen years ago, Byakuya lost his wife before the first plums blossomed. Before his wife died, I assumed that Byakuya was a very happy person. His wife, Hisana, resembled Rukia and this is why Byakuya took an interest in her and accepted her in the Kuchiki family as his sister. This is a lie that he instructed to tell Rukia. Hisana is actually Rukia's big sister and is the one who abandoned her to live a hard life alongside with Renji. At Hisana's deathbed, she wanted Byakuya to watch and take care of Rukia without telling her the truth, in which Byakuya promised to do. This promise he made is something that will make cause problems because it is against the rules to allow someone from Rukongai to join a noble family since it will lower the Kuchiki family name. He ignored everyone's objections because he wanted to fufill his promise with Hisana. His unwillingness caused him to go against the rules and in turn pledge to his parent's graves that this would be the last time he will do it. "No matter what happens in the future, I will always obey the laws," is what Byakuya said to Rukia. This is the reason why he accepted Rukia's execution and fought Ichigo. It is thanks to Ichigo that Rukia is still alive. I hope this helps, Andromeda, if you do read the spoiler. XD

Edit: Xeim has accepted me while talking to her through Blab.

[Lady Rika]

Well after seeing that there haven't really been many topic's lately except a few random episiodes. I thought I would bring up somehting really cool and Bleach related with you all. Im sure many of you haven't heard of this but its a HUGE hit over in Japan!

What is it you ask? Well the Bleach Rock Musical of course!
Basiclly it is made from the rescue Rukia arc and you see nearly every character from that arc. Except Ishida isn't in it, they decided his character would be to hard to use because of his bow. And that it could be dangerious to the other actors. But you will notice a couple of strange things...as in Orihime's breasts are actually small instead of...well large.
And yes they do sing...because it is a musical.
Im sure your all thinking im rather crazy right now but I have two links for you. The beginning and my favorite part^^

Heres the beginning part of the rock musical.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_tDCjgTm_is

And heres my favorite part!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RUMSEHsj4lc

Tell me what you all think, I want your opinions!!!!

[Andromeda]

Yeah, I watched some of it on Youtube a while back. It was pretty silly, since it is people cosplaying pretty much. Ichigo's sword was pretty wimpy, if I remember it correctly. It was not too bad all things considered. I only watch a part of it and it had a number of the captains in it, so it gave me a pretty good idea about it. I don't remember if I heard any of the singing, probably did and just not thinking about it. I got a good laugh out of it because it was hard to take seriously for me.

But hey I guess really die hard fans would enjoy it a lot. The only probably with the whole cosplay is that characters like the ones in Bleach are difficult to get even close to what they really are like. All of that spiky hair or over exaggerated something or other. And I certainly hope that Orihime was smaller, it would be back breaking for any real woman to have something that large on a small frame like hers. I can only imagine. Good thing its anime, Orihime will never know the pain. Though she does punch herself in the stomach.

Orihime does weird things to herself at times. Beside just having an overact imagination. She is definitely the most lighthearted of the group. It hard to know what to make of her some time. And then there is that really weird girl that is trying to get all over Orihime, grope at her. First couple times it seemed a little strange, but since it seems to be her personality, it is a little more normal now. I guess trying to add in a little extra for no reason. Don't know the reasoning, seeing as it really does not thing for the story or the show. The girl is not even a support character, really.

[Evangel]

Yeah, the first time I saw Orihime I was like "Woah!" Or something or other in a normal guy reaction. I found it pretty unusual that 1) She's 15 and has breasts almost a s big as Pamela Anderson's, 2) She is the only other character with orange/ redhead hair except Ichigo. And yeah, at first I found that girl with the glasses pretty strange. But, that's anime for you. It also seemed really unusual how Tatsuki acted around her, she was very protective of her. Maybe it was because she lost her brother? It became a little bit clearer and stranger at the same time right before Ichigo and the others set off for the Soul Society. The whole dialouge between Orihime and Tatsuki almost seemed like Tatsuki had some hidden feelings for her. Eh! What do I know? I'm just a guy.

I haven't really seen any of the Bleach specials. I just usually watch the anime and RP and talk here about it. Although, I did manage to check out the May issue of Shonen Jump today. For a magazine that big, it doesn't really have anything worth to subscribe to it. Just a few random manga pieces and a couple of other small stuff. But! They did have a colored version of the manga where Ichigo releases his Bankai in the Byakuya vs. Ichigo battle.

[Xeim]

Suzu: Yes welcome to the club. ANd nice post about Byakuya. Very detailed.

Also, as some of you may have already seen, we recruited three other new members. Kaitou was afraid to introduce himself, Kuradic said he was working on a post, and Darkwolf, who had been invited a while back but hadn't joined because he hadn't seen many of the episodes, started watching bleach again after I accepted him.

As for the musical, I have not had the time to watch it as of yet, but I will certainly follow that link when I get the chance.

I also have had an idea for rankings. Some of the members in the club are rather inactive. I was thinking about having them moved to a new catagory that would either be called "Hollows" or "Substitute Shinigami." If they were to become active (within the club) again they would be moved back to their rightful division and position. I wanted ask the members of the club on this matter before I make my decision however, as I do not want anyone to be offended.

A few more things before I move on to Orihime. I'm sure many of you are wondering about the vice-captain rank. It was vaguely explained in the first post, but the clear requirements I am keeping between myself and the other captains, so not to promote spam posts. A couple of you here a very close to meeting the current requirements.

And, I need another captain for the Fifth Division. I was thinking about rearranging the ranks a bit to make this new squad for AS watchers only and have an AS watcher be the Captain, but that may get a bit picky-choosy. If you all like that idea though, please let me know.

Otherwise, I need someone who has seen every, or close to every fan-subbed episode and has a general understanding of the show who is interested in becoming a captain to PM me. If you are already a leader of another club, do not worry, captain is not leadership status. Captains just get to help me with various aspects of the club. The senate isn't the president (really bad analogy I know, but yeah...).

Now for Orihime and her fangirls. I rather like Orihime's character. She definately different from the rest, and I feel sorry for her a some points. I'm not quite sure of the pinkish haired girl either, but it definately seems like she has a crush on orihime. Tatsuki also seems to, but it could just be deep friendship. I have a friend I do the same sort of things with, but we aren't going out or anything...

[Mr. Sandman]

Well, all I have to say is, that Bleach Musical is quite.... good. They cosplayed quite nicely, but I have to damit they made Ichigo look like Cloud *laughs* Some of the people who have cosplayed some of the characters like Orihime and Sado didn't very much look like them, well Sado's hair did but the guy wasn't Mexican. Then again, who cares.

They made Ichigo's Zangetsu very..... ugh... it looked like wrinkled up paper foil shaped into a curved short sword, but nonetheless, quite good. The hollow's masks were quite nice but it seemed kind of chessey to how they were moving. Rukia kind of looked stranged, but then again, everybody did.

Oh yes, another thing, I admired the music and voices, they were blessed with quite the talent being able to pull that off, especially the costumes One thing I did not like was the fact that some characters did not look like some characters! I'll leave that for the members ot decide which ones did and didn't.

Oh, welcome to the club to our newest member Suzu.

Another thing, one of my favortie parts when searching through youtube for the musical was this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kC2SJj2_7...elated&search=

This was quite adorable and funny at the same time, especially Aizen, Gin, and Byakuya ^^

Well, I hope you guys enjoy it, that is... if you would ever watch it. On a side note: I'm sorry for not having keeping up with the activity but I've pretty much run out of htings to say about Bleach, so expect it to be like that unless something that catches my attention shows up.

~Sasu~

[Andromeda]

A five squad already, didn't know that we were getting that far along in the number of members. Though if you do move people to hollow status you are going to have a lot of empty squads. And right now there is only 5 or 6 active members, maybe a few more. There are a few spotty people, but over all it is going to drain out most of the ranking members into being hollows. Which is actually rather funny thinking about it.

Would the worse someone gets about being inactive become a stronger hollow? Eventually they become an Arrancar. ^^; It would be interesting to say the least. But the other side is that waiting on people to decide if there is someone that had a problem with it is probably going to be a while. Because the ones that probably will have the most problems with it will be the inactive ones, which will not appear to make their voice heard. So in the end it is up to you to decide if you want to do it. If so, it would free up a lot of positions in the current squads. Though it would be that the Shinigami are out numbered by the hollows. Let's just hope they don't form together into a Menos Grande.

The idea of having a AS squad is a nice idea. I don't know how many people besides myself limit Bleach to viewing AS only. So you may be sponsering to a very small minority, me. But if there is enough for a few people to be put in a squad I don't see why not.

Whoever becomes captain of squad five look behind yourself a lot. Don't want to be replacing you. ^^; And look for the slit eyes and wide thin smile that makes you look devilishly charming for being a villain type. But doing the AS thing would be the only way for me to have the shot at captain, simply because I don't allow myself to watch fansubs. Anyway though, its a good idea if there is another people to make it work out.

And yeah, I would probably agree that Tatsuki and Orihime just have a strong friendship. I vaguely remember that scene, seeing as its been like 4 months since then. They spend a lot of time together to begin with. They eat dinner a lot and hang out during school. So a departure for a while, even a short time is going to be rough for close friends.

[Xeim]

Ok, thanks for the input Andromeda. I like your idea of the more they're inactive, the stronger they become. However, I before I make my decision I am going to wait for more input, and for more people to let out of school. That way we can hopefully up activity so the hollows aren't outnumbering the shinigami like you said.

I know for sure you are not the only AS watcher. So,why don't we do this:

If you solely watch the AS version of bleach, please post in the thread or PM me.

I'll put a not in the first post as well. I'd like to have a division of AS members so that they know that they aren't alone, and so I know how many people are watching the english version. And yes, as of now, it is the only way one such as you could become a captain.

However, is this idea doesn't work well, I still need Pm's from potential captains.

As for a new discussion...I'm quite out of ideas at present. What about the rest of you?

[Evangel]

Well, I'm an [AS] watcher. But, I do have some insight on future happenings with Bleach. I watch a lot of User Movies on GameTrailers.com I can't really get a good source of dubbed Bleach episodes. Otherwise, I'd have the entire series up to date on a flash drive (or thee).

School for us is letting out next week Wednesday. But then there are exams that lead up all the way to the 19th for me. I live in the northeastern US so I can't really speak for others.

And, I wouldn't mind being a captain. How do you become one anyway? Is there certain responsibilities?

[Andromeda]

I'm not sure if school being out would increase our activity or not. It might, but then again it could just go and put people outside more often. So it could go either way. Hopefully, they do return as it would mean more people posting. But I would wonder how many of them have forgotten about the club. It is pretty typical that you get a lot of people to join, but most do not stay around very long getting bored really easily.

Yeah, rather hard to have full knowledge of the show when you haven't seen three fourths of it. But I'm not too worry about the captain spot. I only joined to discuss Bleach anyway and have fun. Besides I'm on the wonderful squad 4 with what's her face's name. I think I said it before here, but she has really calming eyes. It's so weird about her, she looks like she would never get mad about anything even against an enemy. But I haven't even really seen her fight, just stand around quietly smiling.

As for something to talk about. I don't know, the duels that you had going when I first joined might work. Though I don't know the names too well or seen most of them fight yet. Maybe something of unknown to keep the talking going. I know we had a long talk about souls and them having children and such in the Soul Society. It was a really complicated and strange subject.

EDITED: Well I got bored last night and the urge to make something. So I made a general Bleach banner. Its not much and I still need to tweak it a bit, but it gave me some ideas. Anyway, I'd like to make a few more. Unfortunately, my Bleach picture collection is poor to say the least, non-existent is a better word. I didn't have pictures a few hours ago and even then I only found a few good ones. If you have a sites that have high quality Bleach items, preferably closer to stock or screens from the show. I don't plan on using them myself, but its hard to resist the call when it happens. But if you want to use them you may. They are all just experiments for me in a new style I'm developing.

[Xeim]

Jecht: To become a captain, I have all interested people PM me. I explain the details there. Pretty much, I want someone who knows a lot about the show and is an active, responsible member. The captains just basically help me out behind the scenes. Nothing much, just sort of a fun addition.

I think I'll leave the AS thing open for a few more days, and if I don't get enough replys I'm just going to make this a regular division. In the mean time, I still want PM's from members interested in being captain in a normal div. If you're chosen and we go through with the AS idea, I'd make you the captain of the next division we open.

Yes, those duals were pretty enjoyable. How about this, for the people who don't know the names all to well, when posting the dual you'd include a small description of the character.

Andromeda, that's a wonderful banner! I assume you have photoshop then. You're very lucky, I'm stuck with the basic MS paint.

Ok, first dual.

Urahara Kisuke
Former 12th squad captain, wears a green hat and wooden slippers; shop owner

VS

Mayuri Kurotsuchi
Current 12th division captain. Wears a strange mask over his face.

[Mr. Sandman]

Well, knowing me not being responsible and active and all, I have to say that these additions can determine which people is best suited to think of ideas and make things for the club. First of all, I think the AS thing, maybe interesting, but the 5th Division should be run by active, great quality posting members who have alot to say. As for me, I've pretty much run out of everything to say, but I'll try to still be active no matter how much it hurts me.

I'm feeling very tired and sleepy as of now, so I'd better finish this as quickly as possible. As for the dual, I'll say Kisuke Urahara would best Mayuri for quite a few reasons;

1. Urahara was the former 12th Division Capt.

2. He trained Ichigo, Orihime, and Sado.

3. He has invented plenty of Soul Society items like the Soul Candy and Gigai.

4. Despite him being all like a pervy businessman, his workers like the man with glasses, Jinta, and Ururu all seem very powerful, the old man knowing lvl 99 Binding Techniques used for Ichigo's training.

5. In the later eps, Urahara is seen mentioning things about his Bankai.

6. He can be very serious and deadly from what I've seen.

Mayuri;

1. Careless Capt. who is cruel to Nemu.

2. Uses cheap tactics to run away.

3. Almost got killed by Uryuu when using Bankai while Uryuu with his Sanrei

4. Despite being 12th Capt. now, I don't think that Mayuri can be as good as Urahara

5. He might have a chance knowing Urahara has not fought in a long time.

6. Has a very strict and uncaring personality.

I know some of the reasons may not be logical but I guess some of them may just affect the outcome of their battle, coming to a pretty good match, but Urahara a.k.a. Mr. Hat & Clogs wins by a long shot!

Next Dual:

Uryuu Ishida V.S. Renji Abarai

[Oathkeeper13]

I think Uryuu would win cause he's really smart. And he's powerful, then again I wouldn't count Renji out. But I just think Uryuu would win cause he's smart. I think there both pretty equal in power but Uryuu would win cause he's smarter I believe. But it would be a close fight I think.

Don't get me wrong Renji is awesome, if the fight really did happen I would route for Renji.

[Andromeda]

Yeah, Xeim I have photoshop. If you want I can make you something. I'm working Hitsuyaga and Matsumoto banner once I finish eating. I'm also going to try to make another Ichigo/Ichigo hollow version as well without Rukia. I got a couple of Renji, so I am going to be doing something with those. But if you have a place that has really good quality pictures let me know. I can make banners for anyone that wants one. I'm always looking to make something.

To comment on the Urahara fight, I don't know the current squad 12 captain's abilities at all. I've never seen him fight. But seeing as Urahara was a captain before it would mean that he would have a Bankai. He also seems smart enough and well versed in the ways of the Soul Reapers that he would be a pretty poweful captain. And seeing as how he got kicked out for some invention or whatever, I don't know the details just that you guys said something about that one time. I figure that makes him smart, at least to be inventing things useful for the Soul Reapers. So he is probably quite good in battle, I don't know how his tactics are, but from the little of combat with Ichigo, which probably was not too serious he is definitely skilled. Which is more than I can say about the current captain. But I would have to agree that Urahara would probably win even without me knowing the other captain too well.

As for Uryuu and Renji, if I go off what I know of them right now, which is AS then it seems like it would be an even fight. A lot of things change though, I know Renji has a Bankai and I'm guess that Uryuu gets stronger, but I don't know anything about that yet. Uryuu is definitely quick and intelligent as well as calculating. The brief fight with that Wind Scythe Shinigami proved that Uryuu had made a large leap in strength since the first day we met him.

Renji is poweful with his long reach and a hundred years of combat experience as a Soul Reaper. Though it is definitely obvious that even in a hundred years Renji still got beat by Ichigo. Though part of that was underestimating Ichigo, and his sheer will that defeated Renji. However, I don't know how Renji would do against a ranged fighter. The first time when they fought Uryuu was soundly beat and Renji was only at a fifth of this strength then. Which means that fighting in the Soul Society Uryuu would probably be out classed by the strength of Renji. But even Ichigo was for a bit. However, Uryuu is weaker in terms of strength to Ichigo, he just makes it up by being an intelligent fighter. Renji seems more like a refined Ichigo, he is strong, but does not necessarily wield it correctly. He is just more skilled because he has been around for a while.

Either way it would be a close fight with Renji's raw power and Uryuu's intelligence. I would figure that Renji would win because Renji would probably have more endurance and I think the Soul Reaper body is more resistance. But I haven't seen Uryuu get hurt yet, so I don't know. Uryuu may be just as resistance. Uryuu's multiple arrows would be trouble for Renji, but I think Renji would probably win though.

EDITED: Well I updated post with three new banners and the fourth one the previous one fixed up a little bit. I like the way the Hollow Ichigo one turned out. It was difficult to work with Hitsuyaga and Matsumoto and theme that I was going for. But oh well, I like the way the text for Hitsuyaga worked out. Let me know what you think, they are free for you to use.

[Azuteor]

Urahara's zankpakuto is Benihime (Crimson Princess), his zankpakuto gives him the ability to manipulate blood while at the same time be able to fire energy blasts at level 9 and create a blood-mist shield. Kurotsuchi's zankpakuto is Ashisogi Jizou (Beast Killing) which allows him to paralyze enemies and make them feel pain than usual. His bankai, while not spoiling it completely, has an ability to manuever gaseous poisons. So, knowing this little information could possibly change your answers slightly, but we must consider how Benihime's bankai is unknown to us. In episodes 120-128 (current), Urahara mentioned that his bankai is not suited to train people or give them strength. We could obviously assume that his bankai should not be taken lightly of or underestimated.

Kurotsuchi, who has the ability to paralyze his enemies, may just stab him in the chest or nuts to attain victory. I'm sorry Mayuri, but it would take much more blood than that to beat Urahara. If Urahara were to be paralyzed, he would be smart enough to use his own blood or Mayuri's blood to protect himself from incoming attacks. This is all I know from few Bleach sites and episodes, so we will have to wait to see all of Urahara's abilites.

Now paying attention to the Uryuu and Renji fight, I have to say that Uryuu will win the fight. Excluding the fact that he is more intelligent, he also has amazing speed and ability to balance the amount of spiritual power he uses to unleash each bow. It all thanks to him that he took the risk of going past his own limits when using the Quincy accessory. For going past his limits, the Quincy accessory shattered and left Uryuu powerless once again. (The first time was when he faught Mayuri Kurotsuchi and used a certain technique) In later episodes, Uryuu meets someone who is able to bring back his powers.
Even though Renji has much more experience as a shinigami, he still has not mastered his Bankai yet, but still able to control it and win major battles.

Hopefully this is enough to keep the club going and I apologize that it is short. This time I want to see Kyouraku Shunsui/Ukitake Juushiro vs Yamamoto Genryuusai Shigekuni fight.