Tattoos - yes or no?

[Meier Link]

What do you think about tattoos?

Some are tastefully done, others are not. Over all I do think it is an art form with the person doing the tattoo being the artist. Now the design that someone decides to go with is up to them and can't really blame the person that did the tattoo if they liked it back when they got it but hate it a few years down the line.

-are they an expression of art?

Yes, they are a living expression of the artists hand.

-are they an attempt to fit in?

Sometimes and sometimes not, it depends from person to person.

-are they a waste of money?

Depends on what they are of and if the person likes them or not. Over all if the person likes them then they will feel that it was not a waste of money.

-black&white or colour?

White? Thats a pigment in tattooing. Calling BS on that one (or discrimination haha). Also White is not a common color when someone is being tattooed and most artist will discourage using that pigment because the color fades and will not hold for long at all.

So I will say I like black.

-should they have a meaning?

Its up to the person that is getting one. Honestly who care what someone else thinks as long as you are happy with your choice.

Now on to a few gripes. (Yes I just powered through the questions to make a few statements)

First off:

Starfighter:
As i've stated before, id rather get a tattoo that I think looks wicked as opposed to something with meaning, Since the meaning wears off after time and you're just left with the tattoo.

Just because your choice in something that didn't last doesn't mean that it will be applicable to everyone else. That is a broad statement that you are applying to everyone.

My tats do mean something to me and alway will, I will explain more later in this post.

Unknown Entity
I don't particularly like them unless they're done properly, or signify the right thing. For example, names and dates aren't really my thing. Why do you need names and dates etched into your flesh? In case you forget the names of your loved ones and their dates of birth or anniversaries?

I hope most of this is in jest. I know some people have tats that could be seen as a reminder of certain dates, maybe dates that they don't want to forget but most of the time, specially in my case, it is not a reminder but a way to honor those dates. Epic dates that not only changed my life but also brought 2 amazing children into this world.

I need no reminder. I exonerate and cherish.

There is more I want to say about some of the above posts but I will move on for now.

My tats. I have two now. Some of you know this and most of you don't because you are not my friend on FB to see the pics. If you are my friend on FB check them out if you haven't seen them.

The tats are on my left and right wrists and each one incorporates each of my children's names along with their birth date surrounded by a flowing banner. I designed the layout of the tats myself with an over all image that would appear when the two tats are brought together (for those that cant see it or can not guess they make a very simplistic heart via the swooping banners).

I didn't get them as a reminder of just a date, I got them because those were life altering dates and I felt that expression via tattoos would be a great way to honor my children (outside of being the best dad / father (yes there is a difference between father and a dad) that I can be.)

Even though both designs are based off of simplicity and the over all heart is simplistic the whole tat display is complex. (I will try and get a pic up in the member picture thread soon). Complexity through simplicity, yeah I know I have said that before.

I have had Breyens for over 3 years now and the Friday before last I had Aadens inked and Breyens reinked to match the color of the new one. I love my tributes to my children and always will even when I am on my death bed and they are all wrinkly and faded to almost nothing.

For now I will shut up and hope I put some perspective into the posts that I quoted. Trust me there are more I want to quote but need to get in the shower.

[Rowan]

no please, dont shower. Sit down and continue to correct all of us with your nitpicking.

White? Thats a pigment in tattooing. Calling BS on that one (or discrimination haha). Also White is not a common color when someone is being tattooed and most artist will discourage using that pigment because the color fades and will not hold for long at all.

calling BS on me because I accidentally wrote white instead of grey, what? Then you try and talk to me about white pigmentation in tattoos. whatever mate. You have 2 tiny tattoos on you. Stop pretending to be an expert.

Just because your choice in something that didn't last doesn't mean that it will be applicable to everyone else. That is a broad statement that you are applying to everyone.

I made a grammatical error and had no intention of saying that would happen to everyone. It happened to me.

[Victoria]

no please, dont shower. Sit down and continue to correct all of us with your nitpicking.

Whoa, dude. Take a chill pill. I think that was uncalled for. You don't want to start another argument do you? I mean.. I may be wrong, but this tone sounds kinda harsh and, well, "fightin' words."

But anyways. I understand what Meier is saying about the dates and stuff. It makes sense with his reasoning, but it's still really not my thing. xD;

[Rowan]

Whoa, dude. Take a chill pill. I think that was uncalled for. You don't want to start another argument do you? I mean.. I may be wrong, but this tone sounds kinda harsh and, well, "fightin' words."

instigator. I think its the mods who need to take a chill pill if they would consider giving me a warning for that. Are you all on constant power trips or something?

[Meier Link]

no please, dont shower. Sit down and continue to correct all of us with your nitpicking.



calling BS on me because I accidentally wrote white instead of grey, what? Then you try and talk to me about white pigmentation in tattoos. whatever mate. You have 2 tiny tattoos on you. Stop pretending to be an expert.



I made a grammatical error and had no intention of saying that would happen to everyone. It happened to me.

Seriously, you ask for opinions and then get your upset when someone corrects you and try to flame the people that made the statement.

Grey and white are two completely different colors, not nitpicking, its fact. Also you missed the haha in that post, which insinuates that I was just kidding around.

Also, yes I do have two tats on my wrists and no they are not tiny. You know nothing about me or you would know that I have designed out about 300 tats or more; so yes I do think I know a thing or two about them and a lot more then you do. Also almost all of the tats I have designed out are being supported by the people that requested them.

Also you would know that I am close friends with a lot of tattoo artists and have sat in on over 90 tat sessions to further refine my skills in defining what is doable and not doable in a tattoo vs pencil and paper situation and to gain a better understanding of what all if possible in the world of tats.

I am in no need an expert but I do know little about the subject in general. Never claimed to be an expert.

If anyone needs to "take a chill pill" it would indeed be you before another warning is issued to you. Just because you don't particularly like a response does not give you the right to act out and try to flame other members of this forum.

:edit: The staff here are members too. We post like other members when not performing our staff duties. Don't assume because we make a post that we are indeed performing a staff function.

[Rowan]

Also, yes I do have two tats on my wrists and no they are not tiny. You know nothing about me or you would know that I have designed out about 300 tats or more; so yes I do think I know a thing or two about them and a lot more then you do.

so I can know nothing about you but you can say that you know more about tattoos than me?

this forum is full of hypocritical instigating power trippers. To sit there and act like you're so above everything with your snide comments, whether or not you added in a 'haha' is immature and on the same level as 'no offence, but you are a ****ing idiot'

I am 100 percent there are people who agree with me about this but will not post at the risk of getting in your bad books. Myself on the other hand, do not care. I am starfighter and I can tell an opinion from a snide remark. Its a pitiful shame that such potential for a great forum is run mostly by a pack of ... well losers I guess.

I came to this forum for friendly discussion, not to be talked down to. I have the support of a mod here who I will not name, once again, at the risk of putting him/her in your bad books.

Feel free to put points against my name, ban me, say your little pithy unjustified remarks, because in the end, I am right. I am the one being talked down to, and I dont take crap from anyone.

especially ego-centrists like yourselves.

[Unknown Entity]

no please, dont shower. Sit down and continue to correct all of us with your nitpicking.

He wasn't nitpicking.

calling BS on me because I accidentally wrote white instead of grey, what? Then you try and talk to me about white pigmentation in tattoos. whatever mate. You have 2 tiny tattoos on you. Stop pretending to be an expert.

...who made you the expert?

Okay, when you get a tattoo, most people would get as much information as possible to make sure things go okay and that they take good care of their tattoos once they're applied. One might ask about particular colours fading on certain body parts for example, and if they'd ever need a retouch, or appropriate after care products. It doesn't make someone an expert knowing these things.

White, or even grey, would still be more of a pigment than an actual colour. I think you meant just a plain, dark colour instead of black and white.

I don't know why you're getting so defensive. No one was arguing with you, just sharing their thoughts. And honestly, if you wish to discuss with Victoria "power trips", take it to VM so we can at least keep this thread on track. Please?

EDIT: Got ninja'd by Meier. >=/
xD