Xbox ONE: Microsoft's new console

[Fluffy]

I have faith that Sony will also restrict used games. If not this generation, probably the next. In any case, they definitely want to.


Anyway, Xbox has never really interested me a whole lot. The only reason I'd buy one is if I can get one super cheap to grab some of the exclusives. Playstation serves me well enough. Ideally, I'd prefer a powerful PC. I just can't spend that kind of money on one right now.

Still, I look forward to what they have to show at E3, only out of curiousity.

[noxious.sunshine]

BLAH. The original XBox weighed a ton on its own. I remember when I bought the stupid thing (used) from Game Stop 'cuz PS2's were still up there in price. Still paid a pretty penny for the system, stupid remote needed to play dvds with, wireless controller, and a few games. I vaguely remember having to make my ex carry it to the car 'cuz it was heavy.

This... This.. Atrocity.. I just don't know. What the hell is Microsoft (& Bill Gates) thinking? Now that I'm back to PlayStation ('cuz the BF has a PS3), I much prefer it over the 360. Yeah, it sucks it's not backwards compatible, but I have a PS2 with FFs 10, 10-2, & 12, so it's not a huge biggie. I'm sure Sony will release 12 on PSN someday anyway.

[Incognitus]

I have faith that Sony will also restrict used games. If not this generation, probably the next. In any case, they definitely want to.

I'm almost positive they will, too. That decision would cater directly to the developers making games for their system. Think about it: collusion between Sony/Microsoft on this point in the future makes all the sense in the world.

Hypothetical: Say they conspire together and effectively control/restrict/destroy the resale market of physical discs by requiring an installation fee on used game discs. Then then could offer up digital downloads of older games priced higher than what could otherwise be found through people reselling discs on eBay, Amazon, GameStop, etc. That would make developers happy. Why? Those used game discs would be rendered useless without an unlock code (translation: more $$$ for developers). Sony/MS online marketplaces would be the only places to conveniently buy older games but at a price point they control. Not exactly free-market.

Follow the money. Who's happy in this scenario:
- Console creators for creating an environment in which developers maximize profit, ensuring game companies choose to develop for their systems
- Developers for eliminating the used games market that previously siphoned profits
- Shareholders in those companies for having the industry adopt a sustainable business model
- Gamers (maybe??) for the gaming industry remaining intact (for now) with some telling companies to shut up and take their money.

For the record I like having full downloadable games as an option for consumers. I've bought several through Xbox Live. Though not without its problems (hard drive or system failure, the 'all eggs one basket' dilemma, not knowing how long Microsoft will offer titles for download), it can be very convenient. Most importantly, it's one of many options! Restricting or prohibiting used game sales removes an option from the table. That sucks for consumers.

[Odin1199]

PS3 (the first models) were backwards compatible also. I might get one like that.

[noxious.sunshine]

Yeah, the -first- models. The model Jay has -isn't-

[Xanatos]

If Mirrors Edge 2 turns out to be XBox One exclusive, and there's a rumor going around it might be, I'm gonna shoot someone.

[Crescent]

To address those BS rumours about used games and online DRM on PS4:

1. Sony tells Eurogamer: PlayStation 4 will not block used games.

2. Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"

Straight question = Straight answer. As opposed to Microsoft, where each person contradicts the other. Yoshida and Denny already confirmed No-Online PS4, its just gaming media that kept bitching about it.

So let me clear up a few things that have been officially confirmed by Sony:

1.) The PlayStation 4 can play games offline without having to be online. This was clarified the day of the PS4's reveal back on February 20th.
2.) Sony will not have any mandatory DRM for used games. You can buy, play, trade used games on the PlayStation 4 just as usual. No additional registration fees, pay-walls or internet registration required.
3.) If you so choose, you can play games from disc, download them from the digital store or remote load them. Sony doesn't mandate any method over the other for multi-format titles.
4.) Just for extra clarification the PlayStation 4 does not and will not require a constant always-on internet connection.

PS4 pwns. No contest as usual

[Incognitus]

To address those BS rumours about used games and online DRM on PS4:

1. Sony tells Eurogamer: PlayStation 4 will not block used games.

2. Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"

Straight question = Straight answer. As opposed to Microsoft, where each person contradicts the other. Yoshida and Denny already confirmed No-Online PS4, its just gaming media that kept bitching about it.

So let me clear up a few things that have been officially confirmed by Sony:

1.) The PlayStation 4 can play games offline without having to be online. This was clarified the day of the PS4's reveal back on February 20th.
2.) Sony will not have any mandatory DRM for used games. You can buy, play, trade used games on the PlayStation 4 just as usual. No additional registration fees, pay-walls or internet registration required.
3.) If you so choose, you can play games from disc, download them from the digital store or remote load them. Sony doesn't mandate any method over the other for multi-format titles.
4.) Just for extra clarification the PlayStation 4 does not and will not require a constant always-on internet connection.

PS4 pwns. No contest as usual

While I understand your optimism, I don't necessarily share it. If Microsoft plunges forward with *some* form of digital rights management, gamers eat it up and it rakes in some serious dough, I don't think it's going to be long before Sony covets that extra slice of pie. May not be this generation.

I do like that Sony, at least on first glance, is giving straight answers. But I don't think I'll be going back to Sony any time soon, personally.

(sidenote: Tapatalk sucks for submitting posts)

[Odin1199]

Sony has gotten really greedy as well. PS3 with cut backwards compatibility without any reason or explanation to the fan base whatsoever! Memory cards that only work on one PS Vita and for every version (PAL, US, Jap) of games you need another card and if your Vita dies, all that stuff on the card is useless, because it's only compatible with that serial number and version of Vita. How is this not BS and insane greed as well? Because of this I wouldn't trust Sony much at all. Sony went downhill too. Now will be that time where consoles will start getting more and more heat from gamers. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I'm more right than wrong.

[Xanatos]

What's the big deal with backwards compatibility, back in my day we didn't have backwards compatibility, unless you bought one of those add-ons (Sega had like million of those) that made your console look downright ugly, and we were fine with it, you kids nowdays are spoiled and way too needy.

Either way, I already know which next-gen console I'm gonna buy...



...that's right, Delta 3000. It has 128-baconbit processing powers, and it plays panckakes, nothing beats bacon and panckakes.

[loaf]

Can you guys make a TL; DR after your walls of text? Cause as much as I want to read them I'm not.

[Rocky]

xbox one looks like ps3 on release... where are the games????? hello????

[Incognitus]

Can you guys make a TL; DR after your walls of text? Cause as much as I want to read them I'm not.

I mean this sincerely: How would one know the precise length to trim a post---to meet your standards---while maintaining a coherent stance in a discussion?

Do I need more line breaks?

Is that how it works?

I don't understand the correlation between your interest in a subject and an arbitrary length of text that, when exceeded, prevents you from reading what is interesting to you.

More honest questions: How do you cope with books? Or even magazine articles?

TL; DR: Xbox One: No sir, I don't like it.

And if that sentence is too long...

TL; DR: No One.

[Odin1199]

Haha, funny.^

If Rare makes a nice FPS with Perfect Dark like qualities, I'll actually consider buying it. Did Rare hint on what they'll be releasing?