Religions - Your Opinion

[Govinda]

Just quickly - Sasquatch, evolution is a scientific theory. The key word is 'theory'. It does not attempt to explain why we are here, but merely speculates about how we came to be here. To claim it is a 'religion' is mental. To me, it is a very elegant theory, and makes a lot of sense. But like you said, we're not here to discuss it, so I'll stop now. Just felt the need to say something.

And a note about athiests who try to shove their views down other people's throats: they are, in a word, hypocrites. They fall into the trap of believing in not believing in anything, which is a pile of shit. They follow pedagogues and ****wits like Richard Dawkins and always assume intellectual superiority. I don't like them.

As for athiesm as a trend, I'm seeing more and more of it these days. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but catch these people in conversation and chances are they won't be able to properly back up why they say they don't believe in a higher power. They are often teenagers and often fools. However, I'll admit that I did grin when I saw those 'There probably isn't a God so stop worrying and get on with your life' posters on the sides of buses. When I found out they were paid for by some kind of athiest group, a concept which defies description, I was perturbed, and the smiling stopped. Athiesm is and always will be an individual thing. Organising it just doesn't make sense. Plus, we'll end up having wars with giant sea otters if we pursue that path.

But back to religion. I don't really have anything to say about it except that I detest the 'God on our side' wars and I don't like evangelicals, no matter how well-meaning, and I ask that any kind of extremist steer well clear of me. So I'll let y'all get back to it now.

[chrono]

You ****in' serious, kid?

You're actually going to make a "I can kick your ass!" comment through an anonymous post on an internet video gaming forum?

That is just ... hilarious!

I mean, I was just bullshitting with the college stuff, then I come to find out that you're actually one of those types of people. Awesome. Man, can I call 'em.-Sasquatch

Did you not notice the next sentance where i said that the guy might win? That is hardly a "I can kick your ass comment". I get my ass handed to me on a daily basis in practice so i am very humble(which is why i said he might win). I do a lot of choking in class and get choked myself.

And if by "Those" type of people you mean someone who actually trains 3-4 times a week then yes i am "That" guy. I planned on posting pics of my next tournament in the post your pics thread. You can see them and tell me if i am "That guy". Keep in mind i responded to a personal insult that was thrust upon me unprovoked on an"internet gaming forum".

Anyway i am so off topic now.I am done with this thread for now

The link for the thread on evolution is:Questions about Evolution for an evolutionary biologist - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

Govonda take a look at the thread they go into great detail.

Mods if i am breaking a rule by posting a link to another thread please let me know and i will edit even though i really feel like that thread is worth a look by both sides of this argument.

sasquatch: Person living inside a fish=Jonah. Man with supehuman strength because of his hair=samson. Talking snake=Genesis. We are not enemies my friend i have no personal quarrel with you. Had i read this thread 6 years ago i would be on your side of this debate(we would have proabably made an awesome team).

[Joe]

Person living inside a fish=Jonah. Man with supehuman strength because of his hair=samson. Talking snake=Genesis.

Because I'm already in a really bad mood, and don't have time to go through the last page of posts I'm gonna start with this little bit. There's many ways to interpret the Bible, or any other holy book, so why do you choose the most outlandish things possible? Do you not suppose that perhaps those stories could be meant to be taken as allegory? The same goes for the creation myth in Genesis, if taken as allegory, with the assumption that days could mean any amount of time (since this all occured before humans existed, and any god would exist on another plane of time/space, it's not all that far-fetched.


As for my reason why I'm not religious....I think it was Gypsy who asked that, I've had enough stuff happen in my life and in my past, and read enough about other people and current/historical events and come to the conclusion that any god represented by the core religions who could let such terrible things happen to his/her creations, just doesn't fit into my view of what a god is.

One of my best friends put her beliefs in a way that made me think, though. That there may be a vague guiding force somewhere, not really anything with a name that we can petition, but just a force up there that guides and shapes things as he sees. Everything happens for a reason, though that reason may not be apparent, or may even be abandoned in favor of helping you learn an even more important lesson about yourself.

I'm not sure if I agree with that or not, but it's certainly a refreshing way of looking at things that doesn't seem so...empty, as atheism/agnosticism.

[OnOneRyder]

I personally hate labeling my beliefs most simply because I try to ignore the how it all started bits and focus on the what happened after that first second. I shake my head at anyone who thinks that we are a product of intelligent design, simply because my fundamental beliefs don't allow me to see that as rational. I've changed my beliefs quite a bit over the past few years as I've gotten more and more into astronomy and how our universe works, and tried to completely ignore the origins of it. All I know is we are continually working towards truth in science as best we can because that's what the goal of science is, truth. But with so much unkown out there, and with the scale of the timeline of the universe I find it foolish to think we have even a shread of capability to answer the biggest questions. The modern religions are a product of man over the past few thousand years, out of billions of years of the universe as we know it existing. Can you truely sit there as someone who is going entirely on faith and say "yup, this has got to be it". The people who are making the biggest steps towards finding the answers will always be the first to admit at the end of the day, they don't have a clue.

[Rocky]

You ****in' serious, kid?

You're actually going to make a "I can kick your ass!" comment through an anonymous post on an internet video gaming forum?

That is just ... hilarious!

I mean, I was just bullshitting with the college stuff, then I come to find out that you're actually one of those types of people. Awesome. Man, can I call 'em.-Sasquatch

Did you not notice the next sentance where i said that the guy might win? That is hardly a "I can kick your ass comment". I get my ass handed to me on a daily basis in practice so i am very humble(which is why i said he might win). I do a lot of choking in class and get choked myself.

And if by "Those" type of people you mean someone who actually trains 3-4 times a week then yes i am "That" guy. I planned on posting pics of my next tournament in the post your pics thread. You can see them and tell me if i am "That guy". Keep in mind i responded to a personal insult that was thrust upon me unprovoked on an"internet gaming forum".

Anyway i am so off topic now.I am done with this thread for now

The link for the thread on evolution is:Questions about Evolution for an evolutionary biologist - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

Govonda take a look at the thread they go into great detail.

Mods if i am breaking a rule by posting a link to another thread please let me know and i will edit even though i really feel like that thread is worth a look by both sides of this argument.

sasquatch: Person living inside a fish=Jonah. Man with supehuman strength because of his hair=samson. Talking snake=Genesis. We are not enemies my friend i have no personal quarrel with you. Had i read this thread 6 years ago i would be on your side of this debate(we would have proabably made an awesome team).

Let me guess you thought the book of Job was an actual real account of what happened back then? 10000 sheep died and Job's 10 kids died and his house blew up but then he got back 20000 sheep and 20 kids all of a sudden and etc? lol

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