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    Re: The General Election (UK)

    Quote Originally Posted by winterborn86 View Post
    Also the torries favour the rich than the working class people, people like me will suffer under a torry government whilst the rich have it easy, not exactly a fair life ahead is it?
    Really? I haven't seen anything to suggest this. The Tories want people to work for their money, and to tie up the loose ends in the benefits system. I strongly agree with this. Of course people will get money if they are looking for jobs, but I don't see why people can happily sit on their arses and get by, when there are people working hard to try to keep a roof over their heads. I come from a working class family, yet I can see a lot of good in what the Tories wish to do. It isn't going to be an easy ride, but I believe they are the most likely to help our economy. People are taking advantage too much of getting "free money" and not being bothered to work, where under Tory power, that money could go towards creating more jobs and genrally improving the country. I know that not everyone who gets job seekers allowance is a scrounger, and there are people who aren't able to work for one reason or another, but giving the scroungers a push to get off their arses is a good thing to me. Also, from what I have read, the Tories wish to spread out the economy, NOT make the richer richer and the poorer poorer.

    I personally feel that Brown has made too many f*ups to have my support. Just like the lib dems, they do have a few good policies, but I am much more slanted towards the Tories. I'd probably consider emigrating if Labour get into power again. Of course, I may be proved wrong.

    (oh, and on a minor note, I think you mean emigrate, not immigrate)
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    Re: The General Election (UK)

    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    Really? I haven't seen anything to suggest this. The Tories want people to work for their money, and to tie up the loose ends in the benefits system. I strongly agree with this. Of course people will get money if they are looking for jobs, but I don't see why people can happily sit on their arses and get by, when there are people working hard to try to keep a roof over their heads. I come from a working class family, yet I can see a lot of good in what the Tories wish to do. It isn't going to be an easy ride, but I believe they are the most likely to help our economy. People are taking advantage too much of getting "free money" and not being bothered to work, where under Tory power, that money could go towards creating more jobs and genrally improving the country. I know that not everyone who gets job seekers allowance is a scrounger, and there are people who aren't able to work for one reason or another, but giving the scroungers a push to get off their arses is a good thing to me. Also, from what I have read, the Tories wish to spread out the economy, NOT make the richer richer and the poorer poorer.
    You see, the media may not portray this side of the Tories so much since they have been doing so well. But it's Tory tradition to side with the rich, which is why of course the party is considered right-winged.

    When I initally ran through the VoteMatch I got a higher result for Tories. Some of the policies seemed like a good idea before I actually put thought into them.

    You see I do agree with the fact that there are people (henceforth referred to as NEDs or Chavs, depending on my mood. NB: They're likely not all this social group), who do live on benefits for no good reason. They don't try and get a job or function in society, it's the NED lifestyle to have a council flat and no job or intention to ever get one.

    For these people, sure, cut their benefits if they can't prove that they're actively seeking employment. The only thing I see that's wrong with this is that it probably can't happen. Think of the rise in homeless people and such.

    But there are a lot of people for whom David Cameron's very-specific policy on this won't work for. Take my father for instance, he works for IBM, my mother works as a careworker for people with learning difficulties, between them they earn enough to support four children (one of which is at Uni). If for some reason my father lost his job, he may be forced onto benefits.

    Now the way David Cameron wants it work is that if my father refuses an employment prospect, his benefits will be cut. Basically if he's offered a job at McDonalds (or more likely, if the Tories actually dish out the jobs, a council binman or something) and refuses it he's out. Despite having worked 25 years at IBM, and no that's not a dramatisation, that's what Cameron's manifesto actually says.

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    On another note, the Tories have actively said that they're going to make cuts. These are intended to hurt education and health the worst, but also to cut the money given to the Scottish Parliament/Welsh National Assembly/Northern Ireland Assembly. This means that devolved matters will also be cut. Doing more damage to Sc/We/NI since they'll have had the cuts from non-devolved parts of these matters AND the devolved parts.

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    Immigration I can't really judge too much. In my high school there was one ethnic minority who was actually of Portugese descent, so locally the problems don't affect me. Although it is really, really odd how many part time jobs seem to be held by ethnic minoritys, it's rather out of proportion as a 98% white town can have a Tesco with 10% Polish staff. That's probably more likely to be caused by 'political correctness' (it's tempted me to start using White-Irish rather than White-British on job applications, not done it yet though).

    I don't really agree with any of the major parties about immigration. Labour are letting too many in, Conservatives want such a large reduction that it's implying they want to leave the EU, and the LibDems... well... they're opinion is funny on this, 'proportional-immigration' or something silly like that. Honorouble mention for immigration... BNP of course!

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    Concerning the nuclear agenda, I agree 100% with the Green Party. We don't need Trident, we don't need new power plants, and we don't need new weapons.

    WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT IN HAVING LOTS OF NUKES? IT ONLY TAKES ONE TO DESTROY A GOVERNMENT. AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE EVER GOING TO USE THEM!

    Also the renewable energy we have is unbelievable. We're a few windy islands surrounded by water. Wind power and wave power should really have taken off better in England.

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    The most interesting thing about the results that we've recieved is this:

    Scottish Labour has 42% of votes in Scotland.
    Llafur Cymru (Welsh Labour) has 36% of votes in Wales.

    Labour has 36% of votes in London.
    Sinn Fein (left-winged party) has 25.5% of votes in Northern Ireland.
    All of the above figures show the parties with the most votes. In the case of N. Ireland, another party won more seats but less votes.

    If David Cameron becomes Prime Minister with Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, and London all having left-wing majorities there will be problems. Mr. Cameron may turn out to be a good PM (although nobody can be a good PM after that recession), but it would be rather controversial if he ignored three countries and the capital city of the UK.


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