Bleach Club

[Xeim]

Angantyr: Name four Shinigami captains.

Naming more gets you more points. >_> Naming four gets you in the club. Simple as that.

Ishida/Storm: It'll be great to have you in! Please choose to either write for a bleach related scenario or answer a bleach related question. If you have any questions on this...they should be answered either on this page or in the first post. If they aren't....then well, ask. xD

I also just realized I forgot to stick the filler arc into the first post. I'll do so now.

Wii game: I've been wanting to play it for quite a while. I've been meaning to rent it...but I somehow always forget to when I have the chance. I've never been fond of video games based on anime, but its for the wii. >_> What bleach fan hasn't dreamt of swinging a zanpukto around...? >_> Oh the wonders of the Wii Mote.

As for Htsugaya, I'd be willing to be that he's the youngest captain, even if my math is wrong. xD And he'll probably end up living longer than the other captains. Wouldn't it be strange if he ended up the captain commander? He's definately got strength....maybe not quite enough yet, but he could get there.

And well, I think the shinigami cup had to do with recovering the zanpukjto quickly. It's been a few weeks now, though, so I don't quite remember the details.

--Xeim--

[abarai renji]

yes, the wii bleach game looks amazing. However, my game area is very small, and I'll probably hit the wall like my friend did playing tennis. I played the DS game however. It was alright, except it kinda turned into button mashing.

As for Hitsuguya being the captain commander, it could possibly happen, but it'd be a long time later. He has incredible strength, but he needs to learn to control it better.

Also, could you pm me when the testing is over, xiem. Then I'll be back in the rp.

[Sinister]

As far as Shattered Blade goes. I've already rented it. Unlocked all of the characters and beat all of the story modes. And it was not Soi Fon who recognized Arturo, but it was Yoruichi and Yamamoto.

My favorite characters have to be Urahara and, oddly enough, Kira Izuru. I could destroy anyone with Kira. I beat Aizen and Grimmjow and Arturo with Kira on hard by barely trying. Wabisuke kicks ASS! I took nearly everyone apart with him. It was embarassing! My roommate tried to beat me with ulquiorra and he never hit me in two rounds.

Shattered Blade is an AWESOME buy. I loved unlocking the characters. Oh and Yachiru pwns your aSS.

[CLOUD]

As for Hitsugaya becoming Captain Commander, i highly doubt it. It's not just about the strength, because Toshiro can't possibly be the strongest of captains. If Ichigo were to fight him as well in the first episodes, that would be quite clear.

I either see Byakuya, Kyourakou, or Ichigo becoming Captain Commander in the end. Byakuya has the "status" the others lack, he's powerful & acts by the book, Kyouraku is Yamamoto's fav & since Ukitake has health issues he's better for the job & as for Ichigo, other than the fact that he's the main character, he's saved all of soul society many times; if all those events in were to happen without Ichigo in them, try to imagine what everything would be like. It doesn't seem good. If Aizen hadn't betrayed them, i'd say he is the one to become Captain Commander after Yamamoto; he just seems to have the quality needed.

Xeim said that Torshiro is the youngest one to become Captain, I believe that as well. But i don't think that his age will allow him to live more. It 's a mystery how souls age in the Society, but from the aspect i see it, no one goes to Heaven to age & die again; what's the point then? I was thinking about Rukia as a kid & how she grew up, but after a point, i don't think she'll grow any more. Maybe after 1000 years, she'll grow another 2-3 cm. And Hitsugaya, after many centuries, he'll probably mysteriously grow up & become Captain Commander, after the end of the series of course. But not before every other captain has.

[Evangel]

It would be interesting to see Hitsugaya as Captain Commander. Having a zanpakutou with the radical opposite of Yamamoto's is ironic. Yamamoto has the strongest Fire-Element type zanpakutou in all of Soul Society. Hitsugaya has the strongest Ice-Element type zanpakutou in all of Soul Society. I wonder how a all-out battle between them would ensue?

On the subject of the Wii Bleach game, I would have absolutely no idea of how it plays or anything. For one thing, I'm more of a PS2/3, XBOX/ 360 sort-of person. I don't even know anyone with a Wii. Why don't they make a Bleach for PS2? The made Naruto for them.

On a club related matter, I would like to welcome the newcomers and returning memebers. Also, we're on page 55!? Don't you think a new club thread should be made?

[Rasler]

I feel that a thread, especially a club thread, should be continued in a new thread at 1,000 posts.

Episode 153 is a treat for those of us who watch fansubs and love dropped bombshells. If you don't understand the expression: exciting, plot-twist-y things happen. It even has YET ANOTHER new opening, also an advertisement for the Diamond Dust Rebellion. The omake is also once again left out in favor of a teaser for the Diamond Dust Rebellion.

As per usual, I have Megaupload-ed the videos for your convenience and pleasure. Both the new opening and omake have been clipped together as one file. As per my personal standards, I have not reduced video quality to increase download speed. I think you'll appreciate high quality video more than a small amount of saved time.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z9UR4O9R
(19.51 MB)

From the video, we learn:

• The primary antagonist of the movie was once Hitsugaya's friend, from the Shinigami Academy. He is also apparently a vizard, which explains why we've never seen him. Soul Society either executes or banishes heretics.
• Some scenes apparently take place in Hueco Mundo. (Or merely at night)
• The conflict involves one of Soul Society's artifacts getting stolen, the King's Seal. I assume this artifact has someting to do with either the king of Soul Society himself, or at least the realm in which he lives.
• Hitsugaya claims he is going to discard Houyinmaru. A second subtitle for the movie appears to be "Another Houyinmaru."
• The large, unusual hollow is either a hollow-dominated vizard or a released arrancar. [Explanation: Hollows appear as monsters with a hole and a mask. Hollow dominated Vizards take on the shape of a monster, but primarily are made up of the same material as the hollow mask itself. Released arrancar regain some of their original hollow features, as a sort of "armor", or "equipment," which is made out of hollow-mask material. The creature in the video is clearly covered in the hollow mask material.]
• Uryu has his newest bow in the movie and chad has version 2 of his right arm (the one he gained from training with Renji). For this movie to fit into the timeline, it must happen before Orihime gets kidnapped but after Chad and Uryu finish their training.
• Shuhei Hisagi, the guy with the tattoo of "69" of his face, reveals his shikai for the first time. It appears to be some sort of staff-based weapon.
• Some sort of giant beast or hollow attacks Soul Society.
• Zaraki without his eyepatch. Now we know the problem is serious.

Anyway, concerning said dropped bombshell from episode 153 (which I knew about beforehand from the manga, but saved the discussion for when the anime reached that point), HOLY CRAP. What's the time? Hammer Spoiler Time!

Spoiler: Espada 9, Aaroniro Allulerie, is Kaien!! FTW! Don't read further if you don't want the character completely spoiled for you! When I first encountered this in the manga, I considered a theory of him being a Vizard. After all, he removed his mask [fragment?]. Arrancar can't do that. Also, he has no readily apparent Hollow hole, although he is fully clothed, making this judgement inconclusive. But wait! Isn't Kaien twice dead? Shouldn't that make him non-existent? When Kaien died, he died while fused to one of Aizen's experimental Hollows. This particular Hollow had three abilities. It could destroy zanpakuto and fuse with a shinigami. Its third ability is upon critical injury, it is automatically recalled to Hueco Mundo to heal. Because Kaien was still fused to it when Rukia slayed him, Kaien appears to have been dragged back to Hueco Mundo with the Hollow. Kaien being a shinigami/hollow hybrid adds credence to the theory that he's a Vizard. But wait! Vizard are dominantly shinigami. The shinigami portion of their soul has dominance. Why would Kaien work for Aizen? Aaroniro explains that he's "actually" a mole(spy, doublecrosser, etc.) in the Espada. When Vizards' Hollow gains dominance (not used as tools, but are actually in control), the Vizard takes on physical Hollow form, complete with Hollow hole. So, following this logic, Aaroniro must be a Vizard with his Shinigami soul in dominance. But wait! Aaroniro is in the Espada! Isn't Aizen's army, especially the Espada, supposed to be Arrancar? Not necessarily. Aizen's motivation is to create Shinigami/Hollow hybrids, since hybrid races have greater potential than either one individually. Aizen merely chose to defect to Hueco Mundo because obtaining Hollow powers is one of Soul Society’s greatest taboos. In Soul Society, Aizen would not have been allowed to pursue this topic, would likely have lost his rank, and probably would have been executed for even suggesting it. It is heavily implied that Aizen intends to become a hybrid himself, once the Hogyoku is fully awakened and his experimentation results on hybrid creation has achieved optimal results. Remember how Aizen almost lamented that he had reached his total peak as a shinigami? Aizen would actually be biased towards Aaroniro for being a unique specimen, allowing Aizen to greater understand the nature of hybrid beings. That, and Aaroniro is legimately the 9th strongest being in Hueco Mundo, excluding the 3 rogue captains. All this making sense? Yeah, it’s a pretty awesome theory. There’s solid evidence to back it up and it’s believable. Now throw it out the window. Here’s what’s really going on: Notice that I continued to refer to him as “Aaroniro,” although it was revealed that he was Kaien. That’s because he is NOT Kaien. He is in some small part Kaien, but is not himself, Kaien. Kaien is, you guessed it, DEAD. Actually, twice dead, which makes him NONEXISTENT. Aaroniro is actually an arrancar. Yes, he actually is Espada 9. Kaien was in fact, dragged back to Hueco Mundo with the hollow he was fused to. That Hollow was then consumed by Aaroniro, in accordance with the Menos-level upkeep requirement. Menos class hollows must consume other powerful hollows to: A) Not degenerate into lower, more mindless hollows and B) evolve into the more powerful forms, Adjucha and Vasto Lorde. Aaroniro is revealed to be the only Gillian (biggest and weakest of Menos classes) in the Espada. He is also the last member of the original Espada in the current Espada. Aaroniro’s innate ability is perhaps the most potent of any Hollow’s. When consuming another spirit being, instead of gaining a portion of the consumed spirit being’s power, he gains ALL of the consumed spirit’s power AND memories IN ADDITION TO the consumed spirit’s abilities. Aaroniro also has the ability to manifest physical characteristics from any spirit being he’s consumed. Oh, by the way, he’s consumed over 34,000 hollows …YEAH. He’s in the Espada because of his literally limitless potential. When Aaroniro consumed Kaien-hollow, he also consumed Kaien. As such, by his ability to (doppelgang?) and his use of Kaien’s memories, he manipulates Rukia. Aaroniro has the strangest head of any of the Espada. Behind his unusually tall mask is a tall tube filled with a red liquid. In this fluid floats TWO baseball-shaped/sized heads, each with its own mask fragment and rank tattoo. This is why he speaks in two different voices. The front mask is actually not required, and is probably not even part of his body. He wears it because “[he’s] tired of hearing peoples’ comments about [his] face.” Aaroniro has complete access to all of Kaien’s abilities, including his ZANPAKUTO. “Bwaaaaaaah?” Yeah, we get to see Kaien’s shikai…finally. Aaroniro’s zanpakuto, Glotoneria, can perfectly recreate, in all aspects, any ability he’s acquired, including Kaien’s zanpakuto. When released, Aaroniro becomes a human torso emerging from a gigantic octopus-shaped amalgam of hollow body parts. In this form, Aaroniro can use ANY NUMBER of his acquired abilities at the same time. Aaroniro’s weakness is direct sunlight. It dispels any physical manifestations and reveals his true face. Fortunately, he’s in Hueco Mundo, right? No sunlight to be had. WRONG. Aizen’s fortress, Las Noches, is actually more akin to a roofed kingdom. Inside the fortress, Aizen has somehow created an artificial daylight-filled sky. How unfortunate, Aaroniro lives surrounded by his weakness.

[Angantyr]

Ok lets see...

Hitsugaya, Zaraki Kenpachi, Bykuya Kuchiki, Gin Ichimaru, Shunsui and Soifon are the ones I remeber.

I was too thinking about how they age in there, because they showed that kid who had died back in the war and he was still a kid 50 odd years later. But then it also showed Rukia grow up but it didn't seem long till she became an adult... HOWEVER was she actually born on Earth or the Soul Society? With the whole Sister thing it would seem like she was born that way so perhaps shes different. Also Renji is the same, does it hint anywhere whether he died on earth or was born there? Suppose being an Orphan you can't tell.

[Evangel]

Woah, Rasler. Talking 'bout blowing my mind, man. I never would have thought that, I mean, I had my own theory, but not that.

The last episode was quite satisfying. Those Exequias (sp?) guys are pretty mysterious at this point, ain't they? I wonder how its all going to develop now. Well, that's all I got to say about that.

Oh, and Angantyr, welcome to the club.

[Xeim]

Well done, Angantyr. That'll earn you 3 points, one for the first four, and one more for each extra. I'll add you into the member list immediately. ^_^

Rasler:

Spoiler: This is why you're a captain. =P I personally didn't put much thought into the whole Kaien thing. ^^; It would've been really cool if he was a spy, but I guess it's not to be. The actual explanation is pretty cool as well, though. I feel sorry for Rukia. Even though it isn't him...seeing his face and hearing his voice can have a lot of power. I know she gets her arse kicked pretty bad, too. >_>

Diamond Dust rebellion came out in Japan yesterday. I'm starting to feel really jealous. =P I hear they're doing some contests and stuff....people are winning bleach related items!! It's kind of sad that we probably won't be able to see the movie for another few months. The first movie came out around this time last year, and look how long it took to come out on video. >_< We can only hope that this one won't take as long. I'll probably die waiting. xD

And yeah, this thread isn't ready to be restarted yet. We've still got a ways to go. So, er...no worries on that subject.

[Rasler]

Xeim:

Spoiler: Glad to hear that I'm acceptably qualified. This occasion deserves an emoticon: ^_^ . See? That little text-face abomination shows that I'm generally pleased.

Went back and watched the latest advertisement variation of the opening again. I noticed a few things I didn't before:

• Main antagonist might NOT be a vizard. When he removes his mask in he opening, his eyes are not black with gold irises (Sign of Hollow [usage?]). He might just be wearing a hollow mask, like Ashido from the Hueco Mundo arc filler.
• I completely forgot to mention his accompanying lackies. With the main antagonist, the opening shows two women, identical to each other except for different color palettes. They have matching mask fragments, so it's safe to assume that they're arrancar.
• The opening does not reveal the fact that Hitsugaya knows the main antagonist from the shinigami academy; the ending does. My most recent video doesn't contain the ending, since it wasn't a new variant, but my previous video before that one does have a link to a video of the ending.
• We see Ichigo in his inner world (sideways-city-place) apparently doing battle with an offscreen foe. Odds that it's NOT his inner Hollow are slim. So, in the movie, we can assume that Ichigo's fan-favorite inner Hollow gives him some trouble.

Anyone else notice that the inner lining of Ichigo's bankai outfit switched from red to white?

Oh, episode 154 was recently released.

• Rukia in an extended amount of combat for the first time in the series!
• Chad's lucky he's facing another brawler. If he was fighting Uryu's opponent, he'd be screwed. Afro!
• For those who didn't read my spoiler: Wow, Kaien's become a bit of a asshole, huh? Must be all the bad influences in Hueco Mundo.
• Ichimaru doing stuff! Still primarily inactive, but doing sneaky, mysterious manipulation stuff like changing the destinations of hallways.
• An announcement stating that a new episode won't be aired until January 9 in Japan, add another 2 days for translation and subbing, and I won't get a new episode until January 11th. This makes for a sad Rasler, as the anime is getting to some good content from the manga.

Spoiler: I really think that Ichimaru and Tosen are waiting to backstab Aizen. Tosen claims to be a supporter of the path of the least bloodshed. He also has a strong sense of morality and justice. However, this comes off as a bit hypocritical. Tosen: Commits treason (Allegiance to Aizen, a heretic) Commiting abduction (Renji, Rukia during the Soul Society arc) Accomplice to taboo (Raising no objections to Aizen's actions) Accomplice to attempted murder (Nearly the whole cast, right before Aizen escapes to Hueco Mundo) Accomplice to war (Aizen is building an army, after all) Corporal punishment (Cuts off, then destroys Grimmjow's arm for disobeying orders) However, his actions are so hypocritical, I suspect them of being a ploy. As we know from Aizen's escape from Soul Society, Aizen is a nigh-unstoppable powerhouse. I personally believe that Tosen is waiting for an opportunity to assassinate Aizen, thus slaying Aizen with minimal warfare necessary. Tosen is the one person who Aizen has no effect on, after all. Ichimaru is just too mysterious to be trustworthy. Sure, he's friends with Aizen, but where does his allegiance lie? Ever since he defected, he's been inactive. In episode 154, Ulquiorra catches Ichimaru changing the destinations of hallways. When Ulquiorra questions him, Ichimaru responds "I wouldn't do anything that mean. I hate sad stories, after all." This seems to suggest that he's manipulating the hallways so Ichigo and company end up against compatible enemies. For example, if Chad had come encountered Cirruci Thunderwitch instead of Uryu, Chad'd be dead rather quickly. So we know that Ichimaru is active counter-productively, but to what end? In the previous episode, he commented that it looked like Aizen was having fun now that there was excitement being stirred up by invaders. Is he merely supplying entertainment for Aizen, or something else? He seems to be secretly against Aizen, but then again, I have evidence that is counter-intuitive to this theory. During the Aizen-kicking-the-shit-out-of-everyone episodes of the Soul Society arc, Aizen tells him to kill Rukia. Which he attempts to do. And nearly succeeds, had it not been for a last-second rescue by Byakuya, who got impaled instead. So he's at least loyal enough to commit murder for Aizen, and he's really mysterious. And that's all we know about Ichimaru.

[Sinister]

Spoiler: I personally agree with you, Rasler. Tosen does not fit the profile for Aizen's crew whatsoever. Also, let's not forget what a disadvantage Aizen is at against someone who is blind. His powers of illusion would not be as effective. I don't fully believe Ichimaru is earnestly for Aizen either. I have one or two theories such as Ichimaru ending up as the main antagonist after helping Tosen assasinate him. They are always chatting with each other, or so it seems. And it seems they've spent so much time building Ichimaru up as the consumate villain. Rukia's notions of how despicable he is and how even the Espada don't particularly like him. I've often found the case that in most Japanese media, the more mysterious and background a person appears to be, the more often that person is a major Antagonist. Or it is possible that Ichimaru is a Snape figure that will pan out being a good guy. This being the less likely of the two scenarios. Either way, I think Aizen is going down in a very big way. But then, if Ichimaru were to dethrone Aizen, there's no chance the Espada would follow him like they would Aizen. They have all admitted to hating Gin. If they are going to overthrow Aizen, then I would think that Gin is waiting until Aizen will use the key to pave the way to the SS King. But I doubt that Tosen would allow Aizen to reap up the amount of necessary souls to make the key. Tosen might attempt to steal it from Yama-jin, or he might die trying to overthrow Aizen. It seems to me that Tosen may be in over his head. In which, he might become the first major fatality in Bleach. But then...something just isn't right about Gin. His power is divine. He has a thing for Rangiku. I don't know. It's all very suspicious and doesn't clearly add up. Gin is one of my more favorite characters, btw.

Good thoughts, Rasler.

-Sin

[Evangel]

ONew Bleach airs March 1st on [Adult Swim]. Well, according to their schedule it does, after a few reruns of it leading up to new episodes before Death Note. There isn't no new anything tonight, just Futurama.

On the topic of the new Japanese dubbed episode 154

Spoiler: We still don't know much about Ichimaru. All we know is his shikai and that's it. He can't be that powerful since Ichigo was able to block his attack way back when in the beginning of the Soul Society arc. Rukia figuring out that Kaien wasn't really Kaien was actually a little releaving. She didn't let the Arrancar's illusion fool her. As for her shikai, we still have only seen two attacks(right?). Her bankai is still remained a mystery. As for the Arrancar-Kaien, I find it interesting that he keeps up the act while he is being attacked by the one he's trying to fool. I can't really say anything more about him until another episode.

Oh, and Rasler, could you send me those manga files you said you have?

[Sinister]

Spoiler: The reason Ichigo was able to "block" Ichimaru's attack is more because he fit in Ichimaru and Aizen's plan, I think. You don't help out the organization that you are about to betray. You give them every kind of difficulty you can so they focus on that. And anyone who can keep in pace with Hitsuguya without using Bankai is not all that weak. And Tao only knows what sort of twisted evil appointments that Gin has added to his powers since. His reiatsu has to have doubled since then. Anyway. Time will tell...

-Sin

[Rasler]

Indeed, Ichigo's deflection of Ichimaru's attack was orchestrated.
Ichimaru purposefully held back so the other captains would think "The intruders are strong enought o survive a captain's attack." Aizen wanted to use Ichigo and company's intrusion to draw maximum attention away from himself. Yoruichi even states that Ichigo was extremely fortunate to have survived the encounter.

As for Ichimaru having new skills or strength: we have no idea what his original potential was. He's been in an extended fight once ine the series, and we know what his shikai does. That's it.


Dubbed episodes of Bleach will be back in March, when Death Note finishes up its run. I think I read the official explanation being "We fell behind schedule." At least there's still the manga and fansubs to occupy us.

[CLOUD]

I think we'll end up seeing Ichimaru's real strength soon, since Ulquiorra started "interrogating" him. He seems to suspect him, because with Gin, it's 50-50, either betraying Aizen or staying faithful to him.

Then again, the fight with him & Hitsugaya might be repeated; if he ends up facing Ulquiorra, I'm not too sure whether he'll use his full strength or fool around again, thus humiliating him.

The strangest thing is that with Ichigo's power, i don't think he could even scratch Gin, Tousen & as for Aizen, forget about it. It's almost like a lost cause. It seems more possible to me that they'll find Inoue & manage to escape avoiding every battle. Maybe with the help of the fake "Kaien-dono" if the part of his soul can do anything to take control. Still, it's not probable.

At least it's intriguing- guessing won't do in this case, since the best possible help from Soul Society is there, Rukia & Renji. I just don't see how they'll handle all those Espada & the former captains...

[Andromeda]

Well Evangel stole most of my thunder with what I had to say with Bleach returning to Adult Swim finally. They are going to be airing new episodes on Saturday and replaying it that Monday as well in the even that you missed it or just simply want to see it again. Which I'm going to do anyway. I'm hopeful that this means we will get new episodes all the way up till the Arrancar Arc which I figure that they will take a break from once and again. I'm just hoping that we get the movie soon.

For most of the discussion going on I can't really talk about it since it is all spoilers and I didn't read it. But I did watch the second opener for the movie that they made. I'm a little surprised that they made a second one since the last movie only had one. But I guess it is because it is Hitsugaya they are trying to get everyone excited about it. Which I know that I am excited to see the movie whenever it comes out in two years.

The whole scene with Ichigo and Ichimaru crossing swords is definitely put on for show by Ichimaru. We have seen how he fights, it is rare that he does anything seriously. There was only one moment that he was serious and that was when fighting Hitsugaya at the end when his hand was frozen. I don't really think he took most of the fight seriously though. So it only makes sense that Ichimaru was not really trying to kill Ichigo.

[Xeim]

Wow, I can't believe it's been a year and a day since the founding of this club. I would've posted yesterday, but the site was down, so...what can you do. ^_^;

Spoiler: As for Gin...I don't see him ending up being a Snape figure. It'd be fun to see, but he's just too decietful. I can see him 'dethroning' Aizen, however. Or, at the very least, manipulating Ichigo's group to do it for him. I don't see Aizen being the 'main antagonist.' Sure he's strong physically, but...he's not a strong character. Villains are usually just as developed and strong (as characters) as the protagonists are. Now, perhaps its just the way Tite writes, but it doesn't seem as if Aizen has that bit going for him. We know more about Gin then we do about him.

Wow, no new episodes until March? That must be pretty tough. I do wonder why they kicked such a popular show out of its slot to make way for a new one. If they fell behind on the dubbing, then they're being lazy. -_-

Oh and Rasler, as for the next fansubbed version, you can get it on the same day it's released. Due to time differences between Japan and most fansub services they have an entire day to sub it before the day it's 'released.' Oh boy, that didn't make any sense. My point is that it'll be available for download on the 9th. At least from Dattebayo. Other places might take a little longer.

[Sinister]

I think we'll end up seeing Ichimaru's real strength soon, since Ulquiorra started "interrogating" him. He seems to suspect him, because with Gin, it's 50-50, either betraying Aizen or staying faithful to him.

Then again, the fight with him & Hitsugaya might be repeated; if he ends up facing Ulquiorra, I'm not too sure whether he'll use his full strength or fool around again, thus humiliating him.

The strangest thing is that with Ichigo's power, i don't think he could even scratch Gin, Tousen & as for Aizen, forget about it. It's almost like a lost cause. It seems more possible to me that they'll find Inoue & manage to escape avoiding every battle. Maybe with the help of the fake "Kaien-dono" if the part of his soul can do anything to take control. Still, it's not probable.

At least it's intriguing- guessing won't do in this case, since the best possible help from Soul Society is there, Rukia & Renji. I just don't see how they'll handle all those Espada & the former captains...

It's true... It really is a mismatch. From what we've seen of Ichigo's power...it's really not even comparable to the three traitors. Perhaps if he could wield his Bankai a little more proficiently as well as his Vizard powers he might have a chance. But the likelyhood that he will do all this in the next few episodes while he's running the Los Noches rat maze is not very plausible.

If I'd like them to accomplish one thing before they leave Los Noches then I have a simple request, it is

Spoiler: the ultimate humiliation and death of Nnoitra by Nel Tu

[Andromeda]

Well Bleach has begun again on Adult Swim. I knew that they were going to be airing old episodes before getting to the new ones, but I thought I had a couple weeks before that happened. But nope, I was pleasantly surprised to find Bleach on at 10pm, the first in the line up. It makes me so happy to see Futurama removed from the line up. Now Saturdays can be anime night once again.

So they started up on episode 45, which is immediately after Uryu finished his fight with Mayuri. So all of the good fights are over until Renji and Byakuya fight. There is the Hitsugaya and Ichimaru fight, but it is brief. And Ichigo has begun his Bankai training. I can't wait to hear him scream Bankai for the first time. I've been hearing it in Japanese for so long I want to hear it in English.

When they start back up Renji and Byakuya's fight will have finished and Rukia is going off the execution site. And Ichigo will have to be finished with his Bankai training. There are so many things that I know about I can't wait to see them on my TV screen. I'm looking forward to seeing the Ichigo and Byakuya fight from all of the clips that I have seen of it. They also just started with the new opening on the last aired episode Renji and Byakuya's fight, so they did not even get to really have the fans get used to it. I still can't stand the last ten seconds of it with all of the screaming, it just does not sound right.

I've watched the opening countless times on youtube, but it is funny when I saw it on TV for the first time there is so much more that I saw that I did not know I was missing. Like when Yoruichi appears on screen at the beginning, I did not know that the cat version was there too. There are probably other things, but I can't recall them off hand at the moment. But the Bount arc will be starting some time in the summer I think. So that should be interesting to watch.

[Angantyr]

I recently saw the dub for the second time and I was instantly reminded of the Naruto dub, I swear Byakuya reminded straight away of the horrid dub of Kakashi on Naruto. I then flicked to the exact same episode subbed at it just felt completely different, the editing was different, it just felt really different. I guess I just forget about the differences that there us between them. If you are interested in seeing what I mean the episode I watched was 52 which I believe Andro is coming close to?

I have yet to completely catch up being that I stopped watching and currently have heaps of episodes queued up for when I go away for a few days which I'll have my PC but no internet. It's good to see they've at least got some idea of what is going on with Aizen now, I don't know if I've said this but they way they used him was perfect and it would be interesting to see Ichigo grow to his level though it seems quite a bit of. This also makes me wonder if he's gotten much stronger since he's gone up there, I doubt even at Ichigo's level now he could of scratched him back then. Also it was interesting to see Rukia has her powers back, she always made quite a thing of not having her powers, was a shame we never really saw her fight properly but from glimpsing at the other replies there will be when I catch up completely.

Also long do you think the series will run for? Somebody told me they're drawing in on the end of it now but I'm not sure. They series is quite long so far but I'd hate to see it end in the near future.

[CLOUD]

Also long do you think the series will run for? Somebody told me they're drawing in on the end of it now but I'm not sure. They series is quite long so far but I'd hate to see it end in the near future.

I don't think it will be too long. I have no idea how many episodes it will take to get rid of Aizen, but i don't suppose they will face him now; they'll probably rescue Rukia & flee to the real World or to Soul Society.

Besides, i think that the Hougyoku needs some time to fully awaken, so there's no reason to fight him before their time ends; Ichigo's reiatsu won't even manage to get close to Aizen's right now, but that's a whole different story.

But anyhow, Aizen is planning to defeat "god" himself, by entering his palace with the King's Key. After beating Aizen, who is after the creator, will there be something else to do? Is there anyone even stronger than him about to pop out? It happens in many Anime series; the hero beats the all powerful villain & then an even stronger appears.... how the heck???

What I'm more worried about, when it comes to the end of Bleach is something Orihime said:

Spoiler: I'll use my power to prevent the Hougyoku from having ever been made.

I don't now if she can do it, but thinking about it, there's a possibility that she won't accept to go back with Ichigo & the rest.

[Evangel]

I bring you some bad news about new Bleach episodes. According to Naruto-Kun.com, Dattebayo will not be subbing Bleach or any other anime for some time. To put it in a nutshell, they requested their subs not be streamed and their request was not heeded. It is not sure how long they'll stop subbing.

So, if there is another subbing service or *shudders* fan-subs, new dubbed episodes of Bleach will not be airing.

[Sinister]

*snickers to self*

Sucks for people who can't understand japanese, I suppose. But someone will give subs sooner or later.

-Sin

[Andromeda]

Its not like they are the only ones that do subbing I would imagine. But its funny that they are cutting people off. I'll still the dubbed episodes on Adult Swim so it does not really affect me. People will just have to learn to go without downloading unreleased anime now. Its for the best I think, but its not going to last. Where there is a gap someone will pick it up, it always happens in time. It just means that there will not be anyone doing it for a while. But like I said they are not the only ones, I doubt that they cornered the market on subbing unreleased anime.

An interesting note that I found while going through some site. Apparently Bleach was rejected the first time that Tite submitted it with the people saying that it was too much like Yu Yu Hakusho. However, Akira Toriyama saw it somehow and wrote a letter to Tite. Which Tite pushed along with the manga once more and Bleach got picked up. I found that interesting, seeing as Bleach is so rabidly popular these days. I guess it is in some ways like Yu Yu Hakusho at a very quick glance, but the places it went make it so different now that you can hardly call them similar. But when you just have a single chapter or volume to judge from I guess it is easy to make that mistake. But I'd think the whole Shinigami and swords would make things unique enough from Yu Yu Hakusho.

[Victoria]

Yeah.. I don't think people noticed, but what they posted was just a troll/fake press release. Bleach and Naruto weren't going to air for two whole weeks.

They tend to do those kinds of things when anime don't air. The new episode of bleach airs tomorrow. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

Edit: Welp. I was wrong about it being a troll, but they still released Bleach anyway. >_>;

[Xeim]

Yeah, it wasn't a troll. They just wanted to scare people. It was more along the lines of an empty threat. They did upload bleach this week though, and I've downloaded it. I haven't watched it though. ^^; Last I checked they were in a flame war with some youtubers in youtube. I don't know the details, but it proabably went something like this: "But, i ned mi bleach! nd i cnt use bitornt so i aave 2 use teh youtube fer mi bleahc goodnes."

"dont upload to youtube."

"bt! but!"

"just don't."

"U ****ing ******s! I hte u!"

And so on. >_> Anyway, point in case is that dattebayo hasn't stopped fansubbing. ^^;

Well, I've never seen Yu Yu Hakusho, so I wouldn't see any similarites. That is strange though as, like you said, bleach has become amazingly popular. Though, some of the best books/games/artists etc are the ones that get overlooked at first.

As for the question Angantyr brought up, I do think they'll end after they defeat Aizen. However, as it has been discussed, Ichigo is definately not strong enough to face him now. So, they'll probably have a couple more random arcs that'll get Ichigo strengthened up for Aizen. Hopefully Urahara will play a nice part in these...hehe. It would be nice for them to continue after Aizen though. There's an infinate amount of things Tite could do with the universe he has created. And even if bleach ends, there's always the possibility of a follow up series.

[Sinister]

If he's really smart he'll know the limits of the series and when he can stretch it and when he can end it. It's better to burn out than fade away. Something I always admired in the creator of Cowboy Bebop. I think that Bleach still has a lot of mileage, there are still several ways they can expand and not lose their fandom at all.


Also, Xeim, I'm with you, they need lots more Urahara. Lotz more!

[Andromeda]

I'm getting about the RP again, its slowed down to a halt. I hope that someone posts in it soon. We are getting closer to being shinigami once we pass the test.

And I saw last night's Bleach. They are still in reruns of course, but its enough to get my Bleach fix to see an episode. Though I'll be happy once they actually have new episodes once again. I'll get to see Ichigo and Byakuya fight finally. The Hitsugaya and Ichimaru fight is up next week which is fun while it lasts. Having Momo and Hitsugaya fight seems all well and good, but there is such a difference between Captain and Vice-Captains, that even if Hitsugaya made a mistake Momo would not have done that much to injure him. And in the end Hitsugaya is stronger and slightly more level headed, not a lot, since he still runs on emotions. But Momo was just completely blinded, she could not have hit him even she tried in that state. All she would have ended up was dead if Hitsugaya was going to be serious, but he never would be against her. It was simple enough to just back hand her as he did. Which as much as Gin mocks him for it was the safest and best move for him to make. If she is unconscious she can do anything. Though you would think that when Gin and Hitsugaya fight that she would have been caught in the ice attacks of Hitsugaya like Kira was.

As for where the show will end is a good question. I'm guessing that Tite has a plan in mind for where he wants Ichigo to end up. But depending if he is like the guy doing One Piece, he might enjoy what he is doing too much to reach that end goal. If that becomes the case he has plenty of things to play around with in the Bleach Universe if he wants to continue. Though I would wonder if Chad and Uryu can become any stronger than they are in the current arc. And the same goes for Ichigo, aside from experience unless he gains a new power or something, he is not going to be making anymore huge leaps in strength anymore. So it does sound like a good place to stop if they do. It could start sounding artificial if there was another level beyond.

[FF Ace Cid]

Hi ya! I want to know if I can join this club. I tried earlier, but I did not have enough post, and although I was slow about it, now I do, so may I join the club?

[Xeim]

Hehe. Just barely there! ^^; Yes, you may join. Choose whether you'd like to answer a bleach related question or write an Rpish post for a bleach related scenario, so I can get you into the member list.

Speaking of new members, what ever happened to Storm/ishida? She applied a while back, did she not? o_O

And, I think the universe Tite created could have a lot more done with it. Even if it's a new series set in the same world. Though, that probably wouldn't be very good. One thing that would be fun to see though, is having Ichigo beomce a proper shinigami. Learn to control and seal his shikai, expand his bankai...heck LEARN KIDOU! Go to school. Help me with the Rp! Hehe... *nervous sweatdrop*

I've been getting pretty behind with bleach lately. -_- Got two weeks behind and then quickly caught up...on saturday I think?

Spoiler: The antics of that hollow (drawing a blank on his name) in Ishida's fight were hilarious, but they kinda got lame after a while. -_- I did like the whole deal with that liquid (drawing a blank on its "name" as well. haha. sorry.) Too bad he got in Ishida's way, but I suppose he did put a whole end to the "run run run!" factor in that fight...

That's all for now!

--Xeim--