Recent South Park Episode Draws Controversy

[Phantom]

Hey all, does anyone here still watch South Park? Well in my opinon its not a bad show, in fact it can be very funny at times, but a recent new episode that aired earlier this week has a caused a stir within a LGBT group. Please read:

Gay group attacks South Park for ‘gay slur’ - from Pink News - all the latest gay news from the gay community - Pink News
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A recent episode of South Park has angered a gay rights group for using the word 'fag'.

The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), said that although South Park was apparently trying to "delegitmise" the word, its use might not be understood by all viewers.

In the episode, the boys begin calling riders of Harley Davidson motorbikes 'fags' because they are "annoying and inconsiderate". At first, local gay people are angry but then join the rebranding effort after concluding that the word will never go away because "it's simply too much fun to say".

However, GLAAD did not appreciate the joke, saying that use of the word would have consequences for people who were victims of anti-gay bullying.

The complaint read: "Although this seems to represent a well-intentioned effort by the creators of South Park to delegitimise a vulgar anti-gay slur, the fact is that the word is and remains a hateful slur that is often part of the harassment, bullying and violence that gay people, and gay youth in particular, experience on a daily basis in this country.

"It is an epithet that has real consequences for real people’s lives. Just this year, an 11-year-old Massachusetts student named Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, unable to endure the unrelenting anti-gay bullying and name-calling he experienced at school, committed suicide."

The complaint continued: "The creators of South Park are right on one important point: more and more people are using the F-word as an all-purpose insult.

"However, it is irresponsible and wrong to suggest that it is a benign insult or that promoting its use has no consequences for those who are the targets of anti-gay bullying and violence.

"This is a slur whose meaning remains rooted in homophobia. And while many South Park viewers will understand the sophisticated satire and critique in last night’s episode, others won’t – and if even a small number of those take from this a message that using the 'F-word' is OK, it worsens the hostile climate that many in our community continue to face."

Comedy Central, which shows South Park, has not commented.
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To be honest, I didn't really get the meaning of the episode since I only saw half the episode that night, but when I read the episode description I kinda understand why the LGBT group is blasting this episode. I mean I love South Park as much as the next guy, and I won't stop watching it because of this, because South Park has been known for this since it first aired. In a way this is kinda spilt for me, when I saw the end of the episode it didn't seem all that bad to me, but when I read further into the news of it I kinda understood way this is going on. Saying "fag" to a gay man is almost like saying the "n" word to a black man, or the "c" word to a white man.. no one wants to hear it, and its offensive. So yeah this episode is kinda split so-so for me but I can understand why this LGBT group is calling this episode out.

Your Throughts friends?

[GypsyElder]

I watched it*

My thoughts are, what has South park not made fun of in an offensive way?

I mean I love south park, but you just kind of get used to the remarks, it's South Park they're assholes about everything, and if not, then you usually just don't watch it. There are morals that come with almost every episode, beyond all the absurd remarks. Also, lot's of the things that are shown are usually pretty dead on, when it comes to current events or the overall view of something. They just put it on blast, and say what everyone is thinking in a sometimes funny manner... I just watched the episode, and honestly I don't see what all the fuss is about. The whole point throughout the episode was to make it clear that the meaning of the word "fag" is no longer just "homosexual", which is true. I'm guilty of using the word, but when I use it it's usually not intended to be some sort of slur towards gays. When I use it it equals dumbass, douche, stupid, in a funny way, Just like how the word "gay" is used to equal lame, stupid, dumb.

EDIT: Also if you look back on it, throughout almost every episode, Stan or Cartman, call Kyle a f***ing Jew I mean this is not something new to South Park. Cartman also dressed up as Hitler with a flashing Nazi sign on his shoulder. *shrug*

[Unknown Entity]

My thoughts are, what has South park not made fun of in an offensive way?

Nuff said.

I dislike the word fag, but I don't make a big deal of it. I understand what it could mean for some gay or lesbian people, but to me it'll always mean cigarette. "Wut? You gonna call someone a cigarette? Lame."

[Alpha]

I just don't find South Park funny. Never have. Their jokes are all just aimed at offending someone or something (like an entire religion). And this is just another example about how much of what they say is liable to offend. Things are only funny until you yourself become offended, so I err on the side of caution and just try not to offend.

Throwing around 'fag' is like throwing around 'retard'. Most people don't use them to offend, and mostly outside of their actual context, but that doesn't mean that they aren't actually offensive. One time my little brother (severely autistic) ran out from my house, and crossed a busy street. I chased after him and some motorist yelled out at me saying, "Retards like him should be locked up!" (true story), and people have often made fun of my "retard brother" if they've been scratching for insults. Now I just find the word 'retard' offensive in every context.

Southpark just plays to people who aren't easily offended, but they would do well to learn that people are offended, and it's not a result of being 'precious' or something similar. It's just stupid, and this is further icing on the cake.

EDIT: 300th Post! That makes me a Knight or something. Suck that Oracle.

[Govinda]

I really offended a gay American in Scotland once by asking him if he wanted a fag. I told him that to us the word means 'cigarette', but he wouldn't calm down. I explained to the asshole that he was in my country, so he should be used to how we speak.

Anyway, did nobody see the Mel Gibson episode, 'The Passion of the Jew'? Or the one about the lesbians fighting the Persians? Or how the only black kid is called Token? Or how the English kid was picked straight from a Dickens novel? Or, or, or, or...

Have the LGBT people seen the episode where they slaughter the people from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? That entire thing is them defending gay and lesbian culture until the presenters turn out to be crab people at the end. Rarely has a favour like that been done for the LGBT on international television.

Pointless whining.

[Govinda]

I just don't find South Park funny. Never have. Their jokes are all just aimed at offending someone or something (like an entire religion). And this is just another example about how much of what they say is liable to offend. Things are only funny until you yourself become offended, so I err on the side of caution and just try not to offend.

Throwing around 'fag' is like throwing around 'retard'. Most people don't use them to offend, and mostly outside of their actual context, but that doesn't mean that they aren't actually offensive. One time my little brother (severely autistic) ran out from my house, and crossed a busy street. I chased after him and some motorist yelled out at me saying, "Retards like him should be locked up!" (true story), and people have often made fun of my "retard brother" if they've been scratching for insults. Now I just find the word 'retard' offensive in every context.

Southpark just plays to people who aren't easily offended, but they would do well to learn that people are offended, and it's not a result of being 'precious' or something similar. It's just stupid, and this is further icing on the cake.

I'm going to have to call you out on this. It shows that you don't watch South Park.

It's not about causing offence; the vast majority of episodes make a point, hidden in symbol, metaphor, and offence, about the world that we live in. They have insulted something about every single person on Earth at least once, but it's not for cheap gags.

Cartman constantly calls Kyle a covetous Jew, but Kyle doesn't cry about it. He reminds Cartman that he is fat and stupid and a hypocrite and moves on. There are assholes in the world, and crying about it solves nothing. Nothing in Kyle and his family's behaviour makes them stereotypical Jews; there's nothing to be offended about except Cartman.

I admit, they did go to town on the Mormons, but they did that because they believe a guy who looked into a hat for answers. And they kind of annoyed me when they suggested that having a giant gay-pile was less gay and hippy-ish than trying to save the planet. Everyone will be annoyed at some point, though.

I think you'd like the episode about athiesm, Alpha. Cartman goes forward in time to try and get a Wii, but ends up being thousands of years in the future, where three athiest leagues are at war because they can't agree on a title for themselves. One of these leagues is composed of giant, talking sea-otters. The people who make South Park ask that you enjoy and laugh at the spectacle of murderous giant sea-otters, but that you also use your own initiative to see what they're saying (namely, that even if you get rid of religion, war will always remain, and that Richard Dawkins is an overly evangelical prick).

What I'm saying here is that I only defend this show because they are usually so on-point that it almost looks like clairvoyance. I like to watch it at night so that I go to sleep in a good mood, aware that there are others who think and wonder like I do, and who value intelligent humour. As a race, we need to learn to laugh at ourselves and our differences, or we're never going to progress at all.

The episode about the word fag wasn't very funny, though.

[RagnaToad]

Govinda basically said everything that came up.

South Park is a show that puts everything in perspective. It relativises everything.

There's always a moral in every episode, but it wouldn't be a real relativising show if it didn't mock itself. So the moral is always made into something fucked up and it's always deliberately corny so that it becomes utterly ridiculous.

It's Trey Parker and Matt Stone's way of saying to everyone:

Chill the fuck out, mate.

[Pete]

Well, now if you actually SAW the episode, you'd understand that they were trying to take the word fag away from the gays, and have it officially used in the sense that we Americans use it today. When we call someone a fag today, it's really just a more insulting term for "loser," but loser doesn't have that sting. When someone does something stupid, we call them a fag, regardless of their sexual orientation.

CLICK ME, FAGS

The first vid to play should sum it up. Look for "insanely good sense" if it doesn't.

[Jin]

When we call someone a fag today, it's really just a more insulting term for "loser," but loser doesn't have that sting. When someone does something stupid, we call them a fag, regardless of their sexual orientation.

I see where you're coming from on this, but I disagree with your definition of a word (or at least the one I perceive you to hold, based on my reading of this post).

You seem to be coming at this from the perspective that a word means what its user means it to mean. I disagree. Words have collective meanings. Like people, words have histories and are the products of sociocultural complexes. Therefore, when you use the word fag, it does not just mean what you intend it to mean, but also means what others perceive it to mean.

I'm not attempting to claim that you or anyone else lacks the right to say whatever words you want or that you're required by some moral standard to take into account the histories and cultural meanings of words and how others perceive them before you use them. However, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to ignore the way in which others perceive the words you use and then act indignant when said people take offense. If I decided one day that when I use the term "9/11 victim", I am actually calling someone poor, it seems utterly ridiculous to expect certain people not to be offended by its usage, even though I am in no way referring to actual 9/11 victims.

This is a side note though. I have not seen the episode and therefore cannot comment on what they're doing.

[marf]

damn did those fags even watch the episode
those fags are always crying for everything
why do they care what other people think about them their waisting their damn time
and stop saying shit about southpark that tv show is the shit it better not get cancled because of that stupid shit

RIO RICO THUGZ

[Phantom]

damn did those fags even watch the episode
those fags are always crying for everything
why do they care what other people think about them their waisting their damn time
and stop saying shit about southpark that tv show is the shit it better not get cancled because of that stupid shit

RIO RICO THUGZ

damn did those fags even watch the episode

Apparently they did otherwise that post and this conversion wouldn't be up.

those fags are always crying for everything


Can you really blame them? They have taken alot of shit in their lives. It's like a black person protesting a racial group for using the "n" word slur, they are standing up for themselves and letting their voice be heard.

why do they care what other people think about them their waisting their damn time


As I said in the above quote, Can you blame them? Most don't care, but others are different, others are dealing with personal hate crimes everyday, (look at Iraq) you get stoned to death for just kissing someone of the same sex.

and stop saying shit about southpark that tv show is the shit it better not get cancled because of that stupid shit


I agree with you, South Park is one of my favorite shows, I doubt it would be canceled because of this, I mean what season is this? Season 13 or 14? They survived this long right? lol.

@Pete

When we call someone a fag today, it's really just a more insulting term for "loser," but loser doesn't have that sting. When someone does something stupid, we call them a fag, regardless of their sexual orientation.


What's wrong with just saying "loser"? Do people have to add "fag" or "gay" to it? Just call them a loser, its to the point, adding fag to it is sugar coating the term, and plus saying fag instead of the meaning for loser doesn't make since to me at all.

[marf]

phantom is a FAG

[Maridia]

When it comes to South Park and making fun of things. Well they've been doing it since the start of the show and shock value is a big thing for them. All publicity is good publicity hence why they have the Virgin Mary bleeding or Steve Irwin getting barbed. Cause they just make light of things, it's their job.

As for the word fag I don't see the big problem. As people have said before for some reason especially in New England it's a very common thing to call someone a fag (Watch the Departed). Not that I'm dropping my r's haha but since middle school kids have said that when someone is acting annoying or stupid. It's not literal believe me, MA is one of the more open places out there, hence gay marriage here, Connecticut, Vermont, and New Hampshire(starting in 2010). Pete was right in saying it's nothing more than slang. When we call someone a pussy, douche, asshole, prick, fag, retard, loser it means the same thing. People will either see it or they won't, but it's not a big deal by any means from how I look at it.

[LocoColt04]

phantom is a FAG

Be that as it may, this post is harassment and was still uncalled for.

Strike one.

[Sean]

Does the NAACP get outraged and cause a fuss whenever a black artist uses the word ******/***** in a song?

Short answer; no.

Christ, calm the **** down. I was rather offended by them using the kid as a scapegoat to how anti-gay behavior hurts people. Kids off themselves or off other people all the time as a consequence to unrelentless bullying and anti-whatever they are behavior. This is nothing new. The kid got bullied, couldn't handle it.

I'm not trying to say it's unimportant, but they're overplaying it in this "complaint."

[Josh_R]

Well, now if you actually SAW the episode, you'd understand that they were trying to take the word fag away from the gays, and have it officially used in the sense that we Americans use it today. When we call someone a fag today, it's really just a more insulting term for "loser," but loser doesn't have that sting. When someone does something stupid, we call them a fag, regardless of their sexual orientation.

My views exactly Pete, in the episode they were not using it as a insult towards homosexual's they were using towards the biker's. They were basically calling the biker's loser or lame or something of that nature, plus like almost everyone stated it is south park which mean they will knowingly put offensive shit on their show and no one will care because south park is hilarious...

[Phantom]

My views exactly Pete, in the episode they were not using it as a insult towards homosexual's they were using towards the biker's. They were basically calling the biker's loser or lame or something of that nature, plus like almost everyone stated it is south park which mean they will knowingly put offensive shit on their show and no one will care because south park is hilarious...

That's what I was thinking. I was able to watch the full episode last night and that's the feeling I got from the episode. Oddly enough sometimes it takes me a while to really make out what a person is really meaning but some of the insults they say, but like I said before maybe its just the culture in this generation that the new use for the word "fag" or "gay" is just to replace loser, or stupid, I was raised up hating those words because in my life they were always an offensive gay slur used often on me and other gay men like myself. I still prefer the old term "just plain" loser or stupid, but from now I'll think about it more and wont automatically think it is comes out as a gay slur. And yes those bikers were annoying I totally agree

[Pete]

Any word can be taken out of context. The word fag has changed its meaning so many times, and South Park went on to explain that. They even have a scene with all the bikers in the library, looking up what fag meant.

They were like:
Well, it says it's a bundle of sticks... Well, we're not a bundle of sticks.
Next it says it defines a person who gathers and bundles stick... That's not us either.
It also says cigarettes... We're not cigarettes.
Oh it says gays... Could that be what they mean... no, we're not gay.

It's just like if I called a friend a Jew for not tipping a waiter/ waitress. I don't have anything against the Jews, but it's just a different way of calling someone cheap. Is it PC, nope, but I'm not either.

[WilsonDean1990]

Either everything is allowed to be taken the P**s out of

or

nothing is

Simple as that

[Freya]

Wait. Just wait. I don't get it.

In this episode, the kids tried to change the meaning of the word "fag".

An episode before this episode, they slew whales and dolphins and made fun of the Japanese.

Why the heck did someone complain about this episode now?? O_o" There have been so many episodes of South Park so far and many were more offensive than this episode. But I guess it's just because the word "fag" was used.

Basically Govinda has said everything yet, but I just want to add something:
I don't really get why people are offended by something like that. It's a TV show! XD" How can you possibly be offended by just THAT?!
Maybe this isn't a good example, but has anyone on here been offended by the World of Warcraft episode? (For everyone who hasn't seen it: The kids began playing WoW but some other guy killed their characters all the time. [A typical gamer] So they decided to strengthen their characters to beat that guy. At the end they beat him, but they were all fat and ugly because they played all day long.)
I laughed about that, though I know that I'm also a video game player.

Their jokes are all just aimed at offending someone or something (like an entire religion).

I didn't think they offended entire religions. I don't know which episode you mean, but there were two:
1. The one about the Mormons. Did you watch it? To the very end? Then you would know that the moral of this episode was that Stan was intolerant towards the Mormons. He had learned to accept his new friend though he was a Mormon. (And besides, in another episode, when several people die and are in hell, an "ambassador" of hell tells the people that only Mormons will be allowed in heaven. )
2. The one about Scientology. I agree that in this episode they wanted to offend Scientology. I don't like Scientology, so I agree with the creators of South Park. .-." Besides, I think they just wanted to make fun of them, not exactly offending them. I suppose nearly everyone knows what Scientology is about. (And if I remember correctly they were even sued for making fun of them. XD")
As Govinda said, watch the episodes "Go, God, Go" (I hope it's called that XD") of season... 10 I think.

[Sasquatch]

Where is GLAAD's response to South Park's mockery of Christianity?

Who in the "gay community" is up in arms over South Park's satire of every religion?

Or race?

Or movie? Or game? Or person?

It's funny -- and shows true character -- when everything is allowed EXCEPT that which might offend ME. "Of, you can make fun of those people ... you can poke fun at that issue ... but wait, you said something about an issue that I'm involved in? Bigots! Evil!"

"Just this year, an 11-year-old Massachusetts student named Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, unable to endure the unrelenting anti-gay bullying and name-calling he experienced at school, committed suicide."
-Some kid in Massachusetts committed suicide because he couldn't take being bullied? Boo-friggin'-hoo. It's good that the kid took himself out of the gene pool before he got a chance to pass his genes or vote. We all get bullied. We all get made fun of. If it's not about being gay, it's about being ugly, or being fat, or being too tall, or too short, or having red hair, or being of a certain religion, o having a certain skin color. Deal with it.

[Phantom]

Where is GLAAD's response to South Park's mockery of Christianity?

Who in the "gay community" is up in arms over South Park's satire of every religion?

Or race?

Or movie? Or game? Or person?

It's funny -- and shows true character -- when everything is allowed EXCEPT that which might offend ME. "Of, you can make fun of those people ... you can poke fun at that issue ... but wait, you said something about an issue that I'm involved in? Bigots! Evil!"

"Just this year, an 11-year-old Massachusetts student named Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, unable to endure the unrelenting anti-gay bullying and name-calling he experienced at school, committed suicide."
-Some kid in Massachusetts committed suicide because he couldn't take being bullied? Boo-friggin'-hoo. It's good that the kid took himself out of the gene pool before he got a chance to pass his genes or vote. We all get bullied. We all get made fun of. If it's not about being gay, it's about being ugly, or being fat, or being too tall, or too short, or having red hair, or being of a certain religion, o having a certain skin color. Deal with it.

"Just this year, an 11-year-old Massachusetts student named Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, unable to endure the unrelenting anti-gay bullying and name-calling he experienced at school, committed suicide."
-Some kid in Massachusetts committed suicide because he couldn't take being bullied? Boo-friggin'-hoo. It's good that the kid took himself out of the gene pool before he got a chance to pass his genes or vote.


Normally, I wouldn't really interject this much, what you just said here gives me a whole nother opinon of you. Sasquatch, dude, the kid is 11, he's a freaking child for God's sake! What you just said about him was really low, I kinda throught you were so what more above this shit.


Suicude is wrong, but that and I think even others would agree with me that making fun of someone, let alone a child, an 11 year old child is really low. What if that was your child? Or if you had a little brother? Would you still feel the same way?

I feel for this kid's parents, they have to deal with the death of their little boy all because of society's views and torture he had to endure say in and day out, and he was just 11! Heck, when I was in my early high school years even my middle school years I got tormented about my sexual orientation on a daily basis and just been called "gay" without sexual meaning, and in high school it got even worse, and when I was 16 and came out to my mother for the first time, she right away kinda disowned me, and it all broke out of me and I nearly commited suicide, but didn't. (I'm glad things are different now, because I stuck it out.)

But he was just 11, not 16 or 17, but 11, come on.


We all get made fun of. If it's not about being gay, it's about being ugly, or being fat, or being too tall, or too short, or having red hair, or being of a certain religion, o having a certain skin color.

Yeah I agree with you..on this, but if you haven't noticed in today's society you aren't getting killed in foriegn nations because your fat or your height, take Iraq for example, if they even see a same sex couple just kissing they are stoned to DEATH. Even here in Amercia, I never ever heard a news story or witnessed an even in which someone is killed for being fat, sure even in Amercia teen youth will commit suicide for thinking their ugly or fat, or their height and eye color, it's the same with gay discrimination, in which you aren't being discriminated for being fat or skinny, or a height issue, you are being discriminated for being in love with a someone of the same sex.


Even if that 11 year old boy wasn't gay, and this happens, you would still get picked on by haters, and in today's generation, you would be called "gay", "fag", or queer" every day, and that regard it wouldn't be used as a "gay equals loser term, it will mean what it was before.


I feel for that boy because he and I went through the same problems, and even considered suicide, but I was 16 when I throught that would have been better then suffering, but I was young, and I wasnt very brave or strong and I didnt even have my mom's support, but I didn't do it, I stuck it out.

But he was 11 not 16, he didn't know what to do, he's a damn child! Have some pity for him, and I pray that he finds some peace now.


Sorry I got off topic:
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Where is GLAAD's response to South Park's mockery of Christianity?

Who in the "gay community" is up in arms over South Park's satire of every religion?

Or race?

Or movie? Or game? Or person?


1.) GLAAD is a assiocation for the LGBT community, why would they want to respond to S.P's mockery of Christianity? Especially when some people in the world and some church's like the mormon church have hated on the LGBT community since the dawn of time?

2.) I think South Park is an awesome show, as I stated in a pervous post, its funny, and we all get used it doing this, but I believe in some cases, they may go to far with their "interepations" on some matters such as Gays, Chrisitianity, Race, God, etc and that like a political flamethrower must end up starting controversy and protests. I believe I saw one episode in which a local Church group was in protest over, so you see things like this can start for a number of reasons.


Once again through I love South Park, I'd still watch the show anyway, but I can also understand the protests and need to let other people's voices be heard on some issues.

[RagnaToad]

What does the kid have to do with Matt Stone and Trey Parker?

That's right.

I just ended this thread with my awesomeness.

[Phantom]

What does the kid have to do with Matt Stone and Trey Parker?

That's right.

I just ended this thread with my awesomeness.

If you bothered to take the time to read the story I posted in page 1 then you'd know that, please stay on topic please.

[Pete]

I'm gonna have to agree with Sasquatch on this one. Being made fun of is pretty much a rite of passage in life. Everyone has gotten mocked at some point for being different in some way. If you didn't, you were either home-schooled (and then made fun of by the non home-schooled kids behind your back) or a goddamn liar. To kill yourself over being made fun of is just plain ridiculous. I don't even think I'm being mean when I say suck it up and deal with it.

It's also true that not many groups get all up in arms and outraged over South Park episodes. I don't hear people bitching in my church to write to Comedy Central or to the FCC because they found an episode offensive. South Park's bread and butter is controversy and that's what keeps so many people coming back. They pretty much already admitted that they're all out of fresh ideas in the "Simpsons Did It" episode, but they can parody the shit out of anything, and can rip on a new event in less than 2 days. Hell, the very day Terry Schiavo died, they had an episode about it, and that was a THURSDAY.

Long story short, no group is exempt from being mocked. This is true for South Park, and this is true for life itself.

[Violet]

Well, I would normally say "geez, they're extremely uptight and need to learn how to take a punch every now and then." But then, we're dealing with gay rights still. They're still an extremely targeted group of people, so I can see why they'd get upset. But still.. it's just a cartoon and it was meant as a joke. South Park's been targeting all sorts of majorities since they first started airing. Like Christians, WoW gamers, multiple celebrities, and cultures/races. I personally never liked South Park because I thought it was kinda tasteless humor, which isn't exactly my cup of tea.

[Jin]

"Just this year, an 11-year-old Massachusetts student named Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, unable to endure the unrelenting anti-gay bullying and name-calling he experienced at school, committed suicide."
-Some kid in Massachusetts committed suicide because he couldn't take being bullied? Boo-friggin'-hoo. It's good that the kid took himself out of the gene pool before he got a chance to pass his genes or vote. We all get bullied. We all get made fun of. If it's not about being gay, it's about being ugly, or being fat, or being too tall, or too short, or having red hair, or being of a certain religion, o having a certain skin color. Deal with it.

...Seriously? You're actually saying that? Really, honest to God seriously?

[RagnaToad]

If you bothered to take the time to read the story I posted in page 1 then you'd know that, please stay on topic please.

I read it. Again.

Now tell me if you think the kid wouldn't have committed suicide if that episode of South Park didn't exist.

Cause, you know, that happened before the episode went online...

They use a trivial example to illustrate how hard life can be for (young) gay people, but it has nothing to do with South Park, let alone that particular episode.

My awesomeness stands.

[Phantom]

I read it. Again.

Now tell me if you think the kid wouldn't have committed suicide if that episode of South Park didn't exist.

Cause, you know, that happened before the episode went online...

They use a trivial example to illustrate how hard life can be for (young) gay people, but it has nothing to do with South Park, let alone that particular episode.

My awesomeness stands.

The complaint read: "Although this seems to represent a well-intentioned effort by the creators of South Park to delegitimise a vulgar anti-gay slur, the fact is that the word is and remains a hateful slur that is often part of the harassment, bullying and violence that gay people, and gay youth in particular, experience on a daily basis in this country.

"It is an epithet that has real consequences for real people’s lives. Just this year, an 11-year-old Massachusetts student named Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, unable to endure the unrelenting anti-gay bullying and name-calling he experienced at school, committed suicide."



Trivial? A 11 year old little boy ( a child ) commiting suicide is trivial to you RagnaToad? A Child with basically no real knowledge of this or the world for that matter, not knowing what to do, then commiting suicide is "trivial" to you? I'm so disgusted I can't even think straight. Half if not all of Gay youth in Amercia, no everywhere in the world have or had a rough life. Getting called a gay slur on a daily basis, getting harassed, getting beat up is the everyday life of a gay young man or woman in society today, its pretty much a "norm" thing nowadays, as is using the term "fag" or "gay" in replace of Stupid or Idoit, or loser.

but it has nothing to do with South Park, let alone that particular episode.


In fact it does, its an example as how people in this world use the "f" word, and the ongoing gay hate discrimination. Gay discrimination is still a heated issue here and that episode of S.P I'm assuming is not helping the sitution, and apparently GLADD did see a ripple in this episode compared to the others.

My awesomeness stands

I'm sorry but those who see 11 year old children commiting suicide as "trivial" is not awesome in my book, they are douches.

[chrono]

someone said something you do not like GET OVER IT

do they want the government to ban words George Orwell 1984 style?

i do not like the idea that i cannot publish a book, show or movie if it has certain words or themes. the question i have for gays is do you like freedom or not.

freedom is not just the right to voice opinions on things you take lightly but also on views that you may hold near and dear to your heart.

long story short.....get over it!