Quote Originally Posted by joesteel64 View Post
Yes, many animals hump everything they can. So do humans, for that matter if you really think about it. What's Natural, by Most standards, is that humans seek that which gives them gratification (ever hear of Egoism?). If any particular human finds personal gratification in a homosexual relationship, then who are you to judge them? As many others have said, just because You view things in a certain way, does Not make it right for everyone. that's why there are also different religions as well.

If homosexuality does turn out to be genetic, then yes, according to Darwin it Would be a genetic defect, as it hampers the species ability to reproduce. Down's Syndrome is as well, as it hampers the ability to reproduce. They are still capable, but there's very few opportunities for it. Autism, on the other hand, is NOT a genetic defect, as it does not, in any way hamper ability to reproduce except in the most extreme cases. As I said in my previous post, it's merely a Neurotype, different from the normal, but no better and no worse.

Coudl you elaborate on these legal thuggeries, violations of scientific law, and hwo do you figure that it's a religion exalting Nature as it's god? Evolution never proposes to know where life began. for all we know, so magic wizard could have created the spark of life, however, what Evolution DOES try to explain is how life changed and adapted as the ages wore on, and new circumstances developed.

You don't seriously think that god created every life form at the same time, that dinosaurs walked alongside humans, and that we were born as the exact same humans we are today. That is Preposterous. Explain the appendix.

and the respond to your final point, I was thinking more along the lines of the Fossil record. Not to mention that many species over time have been left with Vestigal appendages, sort of like the appendix. Meaning that many generations before, humans needed and appendix. but now that circumstances have changed, we have Evolved to no longer require it.


You don't seriously think that god created every life form at the same time, that dinosaurs walked alongside humans, and that we were born as the exact same humans we are today. That is Preposterous. Explain the appendix.




Not trying to change the subject at hand, but that's what makes me believe in the theory of evolution. I remember a episode of Family guy I watched that showed a brief evolution of the world, through its only a show, it kinda hit on what Joe is saying about theres no way that humans were just created on the fly and dinosaurs roamed the land together. I think it was that episode that featured Peter and his family getting locked in some shelter in their house and there was a flood, and Peter told the tale of the evolution of man and the griffins, it was rather funny.

If you guys saw it, he showed the Church's viewpoint on creationism, a jennie popped out of the ocean and zipped a bunny, a man with a briefcase, and a airplane, and other modern things, which was funny and showed how creationism seems flawed. I'm not basing of that on a cartoon but looking through history there were traces of evidence leading to dinosaurs, and prehistoric man (cavemen). I believe we evolved over time to what we are today. No matter how smart we think we are, all in all were still just animals, a species.

If homosexuality does turn out to be genetic, then yes, according to Darwin it Would be a genetic defect, as it hampers the species ability to reproduce. Down's Syndrome is as well, as it hampers the ability to reproduce. They are still capable, but there's very few opportunities for it.


I don't really think of it as a defect, I think of it more along the lines of discovering who we are. Like I stated in a pervious post, I believe that our sexuality is at a default level from birth, its more like its waiting in the wings until we find out and feel what sexuality we are. If you know what you like and you feel it in your heart of hearts that you are straight, gay, or bisexual then you'll know it.


I agree that being gay or bisexual does hamper reproduction, but if you think about it... NOT everyone wants kids. It's our choice as human beings wheither or not we want kids. Some Heterosexuals dont want kids either so you can't base that on just homosexuality because most Straight people dont want kids either. Plus a gay couple can always adopt a child, or go through the process of donating sperm to a woman that can have a child born with the genetic DNA of its father or mother and the gay couple can have the child the woman produced. It can be done, there are clinics like that in the US, and I think maybe in the UK too but I'm not sure. Can someone check to see if that's true?