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    Personally I'm a fan of intelligent design. Y'know, we evolved, but the process was guided along with a little help.

    As for everything else. Lets see.

    Fluffy, consent is the whole issue. And it's all about actions, not thoughts. Thoughts and desires are a private thing. When those thoughts become words, then consent can become an issue, but in America, we have free speech, so you have to deal with gay catcalls. Animals can't consent. They can't speak human languages nor truly understand them. Yes, they can learn tricks and such, but that's word recognition and due to rewards. As for kids, legally, they can't consent. The law, loosely based on some type of scientific evidence has determined that you really don't know what's right for you or good for you until 18. In short, liking these different things does in fact deviate from the norm. It could be nature, it could be nurture, I can't say for sure. I can say that it isn't normal by any means. The only difference between homosexuality and the rest is that the attraction is between ADULTS, not ANIMALS or CHILDREN.

    And yes, us Catholics are known to use the Bible as a means of telling stories and learning from it. Did Lot's wife really turn to salt? I think not. The moral of that story is to do what God (or anyone who directly controls your immediate fate) tells you. If He says you'll turn to salt if you look back, you don't freakin look back. Other than that, I agree with what Val said.

    As for societies. A society depends on how you look at it. In a modernized society, people aren't killed by the majority. We don't have this whole Frankenstein-esque world, where entire villages chase people with torches and pitchforks because of differences. Yes there might be a few whackjobs or racists or bigots, but that exists everywhere, in every society. Some people are xenophobic, it happens. Some people are just plain stupid. The MAJORITY of people in modern society are normal people though, good people. Take America for example; Just because we still have a few people down South whose great grandparents may have owned slaves, doesn't make for a nation of bigots or racists. We had a history marred by it, but that doesn't define us.

    Lastly, the Church gets a totally bad rap compared to the public schools in America. If you go on fark.com, you'll see at least one teacher getting arrested per day for inappropriate sexual contact with a student. It's an ongoing problem. The Church had a bad streak for a while, but that was only because there were so many cases that got reported all at a single point in time. Today, you hardly hear of it, because most of those bad priests are in jail or long dead. Though once again, it's a case of a few idiots leaving a black eye on the entire community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Personally I'm a fan of intelligent design. Y'know, we evolved, but the process was guided along with a little help.
    Actually, the evidence against intelligent design is abundant. If you 'design' something, then you obviously approach it from a clean slate point of view.

    The human body on the other hand, has several 'defects' left to us by evolution. Take the human eye or the gall bladder for example. The human eye has the cones pointing backwards and blood vessels coming all the way across the front. The brain has to go edit all this shit out. The gall bladder is an entirely useless organ for us except if it gets contaminated it could kill us.

    Which 'intelligent designer' would make these basic mistakes.

    Oh and sasquatch. The 'theory of the flat earth' is still a 'theory', just like 'the theory of the round earth'. Doesn't mean their both 'equal' theories that are going to be taught as equally legitimate points of view. One is based on facts, and the other is based on 2000 year old hallucinations of some bloke who took that one extra toke on the bong.
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