Quote Originally Posted by Order View Post
It wouldnt prevent shit.
You think the mass shootings in miami in the 80s were performed using american bought guns?
Because they werent.
That is why we wont ever give our guns up. Because italian mobsters brought guns here to eliminate comptition and anyone else who saw. Because columbians shot up shoppingmalls. Because the cartel shoots at border patrol.
These things dont happen in britan. Thats why you dont care about owning a gun or arming your police.
As long as americans are into coke and weed and whatever else is smuggled in, there will be crime organizations shooting at eachother, civillians and law enforcement.

America is not only looked at as the land of opportunity for honest workers. Criminal organizations see it the same way.

Just because there arent daily shootouts between these groups in the US today doesnt mean our law enforcement isnt out there directly preventing it from happening.
Do you think a local gang would roll hard in backwoods north carolina?
They sure as hell wouldnt think about it. Because they know there are a bunch of law-abiding, gun owning, peace-protecting citizens there.
Do they do it in places like NYC?
Yep, because the chances or running into someone with the ability to defend themself is low.

Groups like Im talking about dont even need guns, the hells angels committed a lot of their murders using hammers. Because they could catch people alone.

Thats where gunownership is important. One pistol and it doesnt matter if there are twenty men with hammers after you, you are suddenly able to defend yourself. You have the upperhand by far.

Allow me to lay down another anicdote,

In japan, there are beer vending machines.
It blew my mind that the machines had no locks, no bars, no security at all and they stood, undamaged for years.
This wouldnt be so in america.
In the states, underage kids or poor people would rip those things apart the same night they were dropped off.

So how does this support my point,
Because what works in one country does not work in another.
That mentality of takng what you can get is extremely popular in the US. Where there is vulnerability, there is someone to take advantage.
Is this not the case in japan?
Seems so, or maybe they do not see the vulnerability like I do.

Is it not the case in britan?
Ive never been there. I ask you, shiichi-whatever.
Trust me, there is coke and weed in Britain, there are gangs and mobsters in Britain, but they don't bother with the general people, they deal with each other, when I mentioned people who own guns illegally I was talking about people like that. I don't see why there would be much of a difference between gansters here and gansters in America other than the fact that citizens over here are powerless and so are no threat and are left alone, in America anyone could have a gun, they're no longer just innocent bystanders if they could have a gun in their bag.

Like I provided with the percentages, there's just as many muggings over here as in America, yes there are people who will take advantage of others, who are selfish and will hurt others for their own gains. I can't say how bad we are in comparison because I don't live in America but I doubt there is too much difference, there are plenty people who sit on their arses here doing nothing and being looked after by the government, the types of people who would steal from an old lady if she fell over in the street. You get people like that all over the place, it doesn't mean everyone should have a gun. Stealing from someone typically makes you scum but it doesn't mean you deserve to be shot.

As for the Japanese reference, I wouldn't really say that's a fair comparison when the culture is much more different than ours, Britain and America are very similar when it comes to culture, I can't think of any differences at all to be honest.