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Thats because there was never a criminal-police arms race there.
This has happened in the US a few times which I have already cited.
Rolling over and handing your wallet to a theif may be acceptable in a lot of places, but in the US we believe a citizen has the right not to hand over his belongings and safety to a criminal. Your criminals dont arm themselves for two reasons:
The police dont carry, so there is no threat of harm in carrying out a crime. The bighest risk is being asked to surrender.
The citizens dont dare defend themselves for fear of legal consequences.
I dont know of any other country with communities which expressly encourage a "stand your ground" mentality.

As long as you are willing to roll over, a criminal will simply take what they like and walk away. The second you defend your right not to be robbed, you are in danger.

Thats the logic.

In the united states, we dont like giving up. We dont like rolling over and letting things happen to us. But even in places which arent as emphatic about self defense tjere is violent crime.
Everyone is familiar with the mexican cartel right?
Columbian geurillas?
Yakuza, palistinian pureists, japanese red army wannabes.

Speaking of which, a japanese terrorist group which claimed to be reminant of the japanese red army got their hands on rocket launchers and small arms and were captured outside yokosuka naval base, planning to fire the rocket at a navy ship.
Guns are illigal in japan.
They had a rocket and they were going to use it. Luckily some of the good ol boys saw a man carrying the rocket near an enterence to the base and subdued him, saving lives of not just US military, but JDSF members and japanese civilians.
Nothing bad had a chance to happen because the sailors who guarded the checkpoint were armed and did not allow the crazies to start firing. Nobody was hurt, not a single shot was fired.
There are police all over that city and at leadt one must have saw him walking around with an RPG, why didnt the japanese police stop him?
Because he was armed and they were not.

Now you know what to think.

The fact still remains and always will that with access to firearms the way America has this kinds of horrific massacres can and will happen. I mean, are you really saying you'd rather have the right to stand up to a mugger even if that means acts of violence like this can happen at any time? The the danger to peoples lives is so much more real, is it really that important to you? It's just paper and coins and plastic, it's worthless when you see what happened to those people innocently going to watch a movie, I'm sure they'd all have rather been mugged and stolen from by someone without a gun in a country without guns than to be shot at by a young American boy who has easy access to the weaponry the same as they did. There are psychos all over the place, you don't know who is and who isn't and walking around in a place where anyone can have a gun, I don't know how you can feel safe.

There are so many people who are mentally unstable and wouldn't care if you or your family were carrying a gun, who would shoot at as many people as possible before they were stopped. There is no safety in carrying a gun when everyone has them, it's far less safe than most people not having them. Like I said before, you don't hear about massacres on this scale here in Britain where there are no guns and that says it all to me really.

The phony cop was ex-military. Uncle Sam trained him in the use of firearms, provided him with permits and liscences. Hell, he even somehow obtained a very real looking sheriff's dept undercover badge. Truth is, if somebody has malicious intent, they're going to get their hands on whatever they need to hurt people. Why should I just trust that my govornment's police and military are nice people? Because some diplomat said they are? The U.S. Marine Corps denied me the opportunity to serve, and this guy went into the Army right after high school. Maybe the U.S. just has a higher percentage of whackos. I don't know. Why should ANYBODY be allowed to have a gun, by those standards? Why not crack down on weapons and firearm manufacturers? Make it illegal to produce anything with the purpose of killing. Especially hunting rifles. Why do we need to kill deer? We can just go to a store and buy meat if we want it. Why don't we still just fight wars with swords and bows? Better yet, outlaw those too. Fist fight to solve our problems... Or we can all just sit down and talk about our problems and figure something out peacefully. Heh... In an ideal world, maybe. This isn't the carebears. There's criminals and murderers out there and I for one will not give up my basic animal right to defend myself in any way that I can.

I get what you're saying. I really do. Do you realize that the mexican drug cartel simply hacks people's heads off with machetes or uses chainsaws? It's common to find decapitated heads on the sides of the road in many places where cartel activity is rampant. In third world countries there are roving machete gangs... People will simply light houses on fire to kill who they want. My point is that if it's not one method, its another.

Believe me, I'm the type of guy that can handle myself in a fist fight, but no matter how fast I can throw a combo or how many punches I can take it doesn't change the fact that a single bullet to the head can end my existence in a second. This is the world we live in. I don't see the problem with responsible citizens living in peace, being polite, good samaritans, and carrying their pistols just in case. That's what it's like in most of Kings Mountain, NC. It's actually pretty peaceful.

I guess it's different for me. I live in a country where in general most people live their entire lives without ever seeing a real gun, even most criminals don't have guns. Guns just aren't a part of this country. I understand that living in a country packed with guns you would get paranoid that someone would threaten you with a gun, because everyone has them. If nobody has them, then you wouldn't need a gun to protect yourself because any attacker wouldn't have a gun either. Do you see what I'm trying to say? As for not trusting the government, well I won't really go into that, but our country seems a lot safer in comparison and we don't have guns, if it works for Britain I can't understand why it wouldn't work for America? I think we live in pretty similar cultures.

12,996 murders in America in 2010 - 8,775 were caused by firearms.
619 murders in 2010 - 39 were caused by firearms.

I realise this isn't fair since the population of America is so much bigger, so in percentage this equates to:

.0042% of people murdered in America in 2010, 68% of those were from firearms.
.00097% of people murdered in the UK in 2010, 6% of those were from firearms.

Is it just a coincidence that we have so much less murders? Or is it just less convenient since we don't have the easy means to end someone’s life that guns in America provide?