Positive Discrimination

[RagnaToad]

That's the difference between conservatives and liberals in America. Conservatives think, while liberals feel. To liberals, it all depends on whether or not it FEELS right or wrong.

I can't believe it but I actually agree with Sasquatch on almost everything. Although some things could be more subtily described.

Anyway, the above quote is something I'm not sure what to think of.

Firstly, generalising is ridiculous. I could say things like Republicans have the guns, Democrats have reason, but I don't.

And secondly, the statement that liberals don't go by the laws but search the limits of right or wrong is súch an overused Republican mantra.

Liberals respect the prized second amendment as much as the next conservative, but aren't a total a-hole about it and don't use exceptional situations as an example of how those democrats don't respect the US constitution.

Cf. the situation 2 days ago, where a Republican with a visable gun was protesting near the area where Obama held his speech. Nobody did anything because the Republicans would give them shit and cry about the second amendment. Imagine a muslim American standing near Bush with a gun. He wouldn't be standing there for long.

Still, some good points you made there, Sasquatch.

[Sasquatch]

Firstly, generalising is ridiculous. I could say things like Republicans have the guns, Democrats have reason, but I don't.

I didn't say Republicans and Democrats, I said conservatives and liberals. There's a huge difference, especially lately, with Republicans like McCain and Bush.

Hell, even Churchill is loosely quoted as saying that if a man isn't liberal at twenty years old, he has no heart, and if a man isn't conservative at forty years old, he has no brain.

And secondly, the statement that liberals don't go by the laws but search the limits of right or wrong is súch an overused Republican mantra.

When polled, the vast majority of Democratic voters would rather Supreme Court Justices rule on what they think is "fair" instead of what they believe to be Constitutional. You may think it's "an overused Republican mantra", but that doesn't make it false in the least bit.

Hell, how did Obama get elected? Hope.

Liberals respect the prized second amendment as much as the next conservative, but aren't a total a-hole about it and don't use exceptional situations as an example of how those democrats don't respect the US constitution.

Liberals respect the Second Amendment as much as conservatives do? Hahahahahahahahahahah. What "exceptional situations" have been used to show that liberals don't respect the United States Constitution? The common situations of liberals attacking Second Amendment rights, you mean?

Cf. the situation 2 days ago, where a Republican with a visable gun was protesting near the area where Obama held his speech. Nobody did anything because the Republicans would give them shit and cry about the second amendment.

And maybe because it was perfectly legal to openly carry a firearm in that area. I'd like to see a credible source for that story, of a protester openly carrying a firearm near Obama, if you would be so kind as to provide it for me.

Imagine a muslim American standing near Bush with a gun. He wouldn't be standing there for long.

So now you're assuming prejudice on the account of your opponents. Here's something for you to consider: If they're not doing anything illegal, nothing can legally be done to them. Whether they're Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic, Shinto, Pagan, Christian, or even Scientologist, they must be doing something illegal to have any sort of retribution. Which is why I support the woman in Westhampton, NY that was arrested for "trespassing" outside an Air National Guard base -- she was stupid, she was suspicious, but she wasn't doing anything illegal.

I'm talking about that one, yes. And how is it irrelevant? Women are not a minority, but they are discriminated against.

The total wage of all women compared to the total wage of all men would be irrelevant, seeing as women and men work in vastly different job fields. One would have to compare wages from the exact same job, and if there's a discrepancy, then raise the issue.

Why do you think we even have feminists?

The same reason we have the ACLU, the NAACP, and labor unions. While they were needed at a time, they have well outlived their usefulness, and now do nothing but bitch and moan and give their own cause a bad name.

I know I have more to respond to, and I'll get back to it later. More important things to do now. As always, it's a pleasure.