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    Re: Is Communism Really THAT Bad?

    Nickness,
    Your support for communism is doing what communism itself tends to do.
    Dissolve.

    Anyone remember what the US' plan to defeat the USSR in the cold war was?
    Let it crumble.
    And crumble it did.

    That's what communism does. It slowly degenerates into something less communist, or it collapses in on itself.
    China is becoming more and more capitalist. As workers gain better quality of life, they want higher pay and as they get higher pay, their prices rise to match that of other similarly skilled labor.
    China wants to over take the united states by becomeing the financial center of the world. In order to do that, they will be forced to become capitalist.
    And don't get me wrong,
    China has plenty way to go before that happens. To compare the average yearly earnings of chinese people to the cost of living, they are still mostly in poverty. I believe I stated somewhere else around here that the poverty level of China is 10% and that line is drawn at the equivallent of an individual earning less than 87USD a year.

    Just to make sure you read that right, that's *87* dollars.
    Less than I spend on my cellphone for a month of service.
    Less than a set of tires for my car.
    Less than I spend on food for a week.

    There is a massive void between the poor and the rich in China (read: no middle class), which is a symptom of a third world country. Not coincedentally, it is a symptom every communist country shares.

    And just because I love to talk trash about the country so much, North Korea only exists because of it's work camps. Work camp being the militaristic, forced into, eat once a week kind, and not the shovel-ready-jobs kind.


    So,
    Does communism look good on paper?
    As a philosophy? No.
    As a way to promote "fairness"? No.
    As a way for a country to be economically strong? Only as long as there are suckers who you don't pay enough to leave and who don't have the will to resist.

    Communism looks good the way Socialism looks good.
    If you think it's about being granted someone else's benefits from their hard work, you'll love it.

    There is no free lunch. Somebody pays. Rack up enough debt and you'll pay somehow.

    Edit:
    Oh, I just saw the "Islamic Financial blah, blah, blah" up there.
    You tax the people and use some of that tax to aid the needy?
    I've never heard of something so noble!

    The world view of Islam is summed up by Darfur.
    I would have loved to go head to head with your Jahaweed-funding, genocide-promoting, village-burning, heilo-strafing lunatics.
    True selfishness is claiming that skin color excludes people from your religion.

    There are more than two types of government, you're right.
    But there are more than three.

    Obviously, because this forum is full of people from the US, there is going to be a discussion of communism vs. capitalism.
    It doesn't mean that we are so ignorant as to not be aware that there are other philosophies in action.

    I believe that anyone who assumes that other's are not aware of foriegn governments and beliefs is, themself, an ignorant ass.


    To get back on topic,
    Down with communism. McDonalds on every street corner!
    Last edited by Order; 06-01-2012 at 09:07 PM.

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