Which is the greatest, VII or XII?

[JuzamDjinn]

New thought.
Consider this.
If there was an FF:Ivalice, or FFMMO series, they would be spinoffs. (duh)

What is the biggest difference between a mainseries and a new spin off?

Due to bugetary constraints, on account of projected sales that would be significantly less than a new installment to a new series. The production values and quality as the game as a whole would be alot less.
Also launch sales would be less, people get excited about the next Final Fantasy....noone gives a f*ck about Crystal Chronicals, Echoes of whatever, or...those other ones that I dont even know the names of.

Square Enix is a company, people work there, people work to get paid, square enix need to sell games to make money.



To stay on topic..FFVII had better music too. Uematsu's best. Best boss theme EVER, One Winged Angel is there a more memorable final boss theme? complimented the atmophere perfectly whether you were in the Temple of ancients or in a Midgar reactor.

[Angel of Iniquity]

New thought.
Consider this.
If there was an FF:Ivalice, or FFMMO series, they would be spinoffs. (duh)

What is the biggest difference between a mainseries and a new spin off?

Due to bugetary constraints, on account of projected sales that would be significantly less than a new installment to a new series. The production values and quality as the game as a whole would be alot less.
Also launch sales would be less, people get excited about the next Final Fantasy....noone gives a f*ck about Crystal Chronicals, Echoes of whatever, or...those other ones that I dont even know the names of.

Square Enix is a company, people work there, people work to get paid, square enix need to sell games to make money.



To stay on topic..FFVII had better music too. Uematsu's best. Best boss theme EVER, One Winged Angel is there a more memorable final boss theme? complimented the atmophere perfectly whether you were in the Temple of ancients or in a Midgar reactor.

Ahh, I see, I forgot about crystal chronicles lol.
Hmm, you are making FF7 sound great, does it get better after materia keeper? Also, they were making more than one game when they created FF12, which is why they might have changed allot during the last 5 months.
As for FF7, it was for the most part, single gaming.

[Zidane77]

Ahh, I see, I forgot about crystal chronicles lol.
Hmm, you are making FF7 sound great, does it get better after materia keeper? Also, they were making more than one game when they created FF12, which is why they might have changed allot during the last 5 months.
As for FF7, it was for the most part, single gaming.

Like he says, it's basically starting.
It's gets way better, it's not even my favorite game (IX is more my fav) but i would consider VII to be the best game of all time, simply because of overall things put together:

-The music is unique and probably my favorite, in general (i like to listen to it on my itunes)
-Battle system is still fun and somehow doesn't get old, i think it's quickest of all FF (when ATB) and you can even still upgrade the graphics by playing the game on an emu (with a good PC of course).
-Characters: Super epic and have a great depth, that's why i don't mind more games (even DoC), simply because those characters have so much to say.
-Storyline: Very deep,dark and interesting and one of my favorite as well

And i can go on and on.

[JuzamDjinn]

Like he says, it's basically starting.
It's gets way better, it's not even my favorite game (IX is more my fav) but i would consider VII to be the best game of all time, simply because of overall things put together:

-The music is unique and probably my favorite, in general (i like to listen to it on my itunes)
-Battle system is still fun and somehow doesn't get old, i think it's quickest of all FF (when ATB) and you can even still upgrade the graphics by playing the game on an emu (with a good PC of course).
-Characters: Super epic and have a great depth, that's why i don't mind more games (even DoC), simply because those characters have so much to say.
-Storyline: Very deep,dark and interesting and one of my favorite as well

And i can go on and on.

Of all the FF's Ive played VII one has by far the highest replay value, even if you clear the game 100% you'll find your self loading up that 100% file and walking around doing stuff. The content of Gold Scaucer alone could have made a decent stand alone game (handheld most likley). Chocobo races...Snowboard (this was just as good as Cool Borders, or Snowboard kids(snowboarding games of the time)...Battle square...Rollercoaster(only thing in this game I could never get down)

[Lost Sol]

Of all the FF's Ive played VII one has by far the highest replay value, even if you clear the game 100% you'll find your self loading up that 100% file and walking around doing stuff. The content of Gold Scaucer alone could have made a decent stand alone game (handheld most likley). Chocobo races...Snowboard (this was just as good as Cool Borders, or Snowboard kids(snowboarding games of the time)...Battle square...Rollercoaster(only thing in this game I could never get down)

I am guilty of doing just that... lmao.

To be fair, XII at least did set in stone what the goal of the story was which is good to know so you're not wondering if anything's really missing. Also, the change and improvement factor is also a huge element to the FF series. Honestly, I give the company props for even daring to attempt something new, however XII and XIII's battle systems upset me greatly... I miss the simple menus where I could choose from just 4 options that would lead to the next action. Or even turn based like X! XII just looked boring to me, and XIII took the fun away with basically grinding 24/7 and letting the AI do all the work. Though I should probably not get that game involved since it would off topic, sorry!

As for the spinoff talk, that actually doesn't sound half bad. How many times are they gonna use "Ivalice" in the FF franchise anyway? XP