Which is the greatest, VII or XII?

[markandrewkinzett]

VII is better hands down don't get me wrong XII is okay but VII is just better all over sorry to FFVII haters and FFXII lovers!!!

[NeoAquarius12]

I agree with Pete about the licensing system here. Every character is generally the same being with slightly different stats. At the end, you have a limited selection of weapons to use, but the same augments and everything. It's just less fun. Plus, tough boss battle, all you really have to do is continually recharge you MP and start your chain of super attacks... forget what they're called in XII.

XII is consistently one of my least favorite Final Fantasies, but it's still an awesome game, and some parts are super fun.

But VII is better. It's just a lot more fun, and the story is eons superior.

[lady ashe]

I have never played vii so i have to say xii

[OutlawTorn]

I have never played vii so i have to say xii

-_- this... thi-no.... No... -_-

Good Lord, why have you forsaken this innocent child?


She's done nothing to deserve this cruel and sinister punishment.



Seriously... Buy a P1, or P2, and hunt down a copy... you don't know ANYTHING about FF until you beat 6, 7, & 8, hell - beat 9 too! Cause if X & XII were your introduction to Final Fantasy...

"B-b-b-b-Baby you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet!"


-peace-

[Crescent]

-_- this... thi-no.... No... -_-

Good Lord, why have you forsaken this innocent child?
-peace-

LOL But how do you account for the morons who have played it and still dont like it hmm????

[Xanatos]

-_- this... thi-no.... No... -_-

Good Lord, why have you forsaken this innocent child?


She's done nothing to deserve this cruel and sinister punishment.



Seriously... Buy a P1, or P2, and hunt down a copy... you don't know ANYTHING about FF until you beat 6, 7, & 8, hell - beat 9 too! Cause if X & XII were your introduction to Final Fantasy...

"B-b-b-b-Baby you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet!"


-peace-

You seriously need to chill down, though I have to say I agree with you. She definitely should have started with inferior games seriously lacking in both story and character personality & development such as Final Fantasy VIII then move onto something better.

LOL But how do you account for the morons who have played it and still dont like it hmm????

Somehow I highly doubt it, nevertheless I have to ask, ever heard about a thing called "different taste in videogames"?

While you may adore what is in my personal opinion a highly flawed game it doesn't mean others have to do it as well nor should they be called morons for not liking it.

[Crescent]

Somehow I highly doubt it, nevertheless I have to ask, ever heard about a thing called "different taste in videogames"?

While you may adore what is in my personal opinion a highly flawed game it doesn't mean others have to do it as well nor should they be called morons for not liking it.

NO way! I refuse. "Different taste in Videogames"???? Nope..But Ive heard of poor taste and great taste!

[Cyanist]

I do not think anyone necessarily hates it. It is quite a decent, large expansed, medieval concoction. But when you compare it to a futuristic, engrossing, awesome game for its time like FFVII, things tend to get a tad serious. I, myself, hesitate to think on the subject, because the generational and technological gap between these games makes it hard to properly judge. FFXII was clearly made with presenting a larger, crisp atmosphere and smooth, simple game-play in mind, whilst FFVII was, for the most part, driven by its dark story and thrives in its inscrutable blocky pixels.
I suppose it depends on what you are basing the judgment.
The story of XII I've scrutinized and found lacking in the aspect of delicious morsels supplied abound in FFVII. (I kept waiting for Vaan to find out he was related somehow to a noble family thus making him eligible to marry Princess Ashe in the end, which never happened, btw. )
Visually wise, the two games are night and day. They are both beautiful in their own way.
(on the subject of character, though, I prefer FFVII, as the expressions are left to the imagination of the gamer, and while Balthier's smoothed-over form shifting about looking serious is okay, I think I'd prefer those grainy pixels shifting around uncertainly instead.) But I hate neither and like them both!

[markandrewkinzett]

to lady ashe seriously you NEED to play FFVII FFXII doesn't come close in my eyes!!!

[KainsBro]

I like both games, however I believe VII to be the better of the 2... I remember hours trying to train Chocobos just to get the Gold one, so I could FINALLY get Knights of the Round! It was definitely worth all the trouble, though!

I still believe the VI is the best FF game ever! Story, Characters, EVERYTHING about VI was awesome!

But yeah, VII gets my vote!

[Crescent]

This isnt a question but heres me answer nyway:


Like a bitch.

But (suprisingly) I really loved XII. XII is one of my top FF's. Just loved it.

[OutlawTorn]

Okay.... lol.

This is strictly my opinion, as a gamer, a Squaresoft EXPERT, and FF Junkie, and a story teller. So don't take this as, or turn this into an arguement, please.

You ask, you get answers and opinions. =P


VII is twice the game XII is, in every aspect but graphics and personal preference to XII combat and skill systems, etc.

VIII was the last "great" Final Fantasy made, period... The rest were good RPG's...

8, 6, and 7 are the greatest FF's ever made, for reasons I won't get into because it's off topic.

But that's my 2 cents. Not saying any one or thing is wrong, just weighing in.



-peace-

[OutlawTorn]

I don't account for morons, omgawd. =)

And Xantax, Zantor, I apologize, one who seems so offended by others taste in games, and who feels so obligated to make them feel wrong, or inferior to your tastes... you should follow your own advice.

Opinions on good games are never rright or wrong. Reardless of what you think.... It's got nothing to do with you.

[Crescent]

I don't account for morons, omgawd. =)

And Xantax, Zantor, I apologize, one who seems so offended by others taste in games, and who feels so obligated to make them feel wrong, or inferior to your tastes... you should follow your own advice.

Opinions on good games are never rright or wrong. Reardless of what you think.... It's got nothing to do with you.

Sorry but i have to do this.. lol go you!

[Xanatos]

Damn straight. That game is a fraction of a percent close to perfection.


...BUT they dont have to be hardcore about it like me (Im so fking proud of it btw). Its not the most requested videogame remake in the history of videogames for nothing! Or if it were "highly...flawed?!?!!.................just....gimm e.....a sec...... Lets just say that if they were to announce a FFVII remake the internet will be brought down faster than SOPA. Anyways we could go on and on but you seem to hold a real bad grudge for "FFVII IS THE BEST FF/GAME EVERR" fans. I love and continue to preach my game as the best game ever no matter what anyone fking says.

Meaning, even if you have perfectly valid reasons for not liking Final Fantasy VII you're a moron and have bad taste in video games. Superb, I like how open minded you are.

Actually, it is highly flawed, or at lest my take on what highly flawed means. As far as I recall I gave you a well written post where I summed up pretty much all of it's flaws, I even offered links to cover my claims... your response was, well, childish at best, you refused to touch even one point leading me to believe it's not all hate and gibberish as you're willing to believe.

If you're willing to preach and if it is indeed the "best game eva" you should at least learn to back your words and to defend properly, you can see how response such as "omgawd, you're stupid, you don't know shit, this is the best game eva..." or plain insulting someone for nothing but having diferent opinion than you may lead to someone not liking you. As far as remake goes, this may come as shock to you, but I would actually love to see that happen, with additional content and all those flaws fixed of course.

[Crescent]

Meaning, even if you have perfectly valid reasons for not liking Final Fantasy VII you're a moron and have bad taste in video games. Superb, I like how open minded you are.

Actually, it is highly flawed, or at lest my take on what highly flawed means. As far as I recall I gave you a well written post where I summed up pretty much all of it's flaws, I even offered links to cover my claims... your response was, well, childish at best, you refused to touch even one point leading me to believe it's not all hate and gibberish as you're willing to believe.

If you're willing to preach and if it is indeed the "best game eva" you should at least learn to back your words and to defend properly, you can see how response such as "omgawd, you're stupid, you don't know shit, this is the best game eva..." or plain insulting someone for nothing but having diferent opinion than you may lead to someone not liking you. As far as remake goes, this may come as shock to you, but I would actually love to see that happen, with additional content and all those flaws fixed of course.

Oh god here we go.. Back to the topic Yes FFVII IS THE BEST GAME EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OutlawTorn]

Sorry but i have to do this.. lol go you!

No, my lady, go YOU.

[loaf]

lol this thread turned into teens raging on pointless facts.

[Crescent]

lol this thread turned into teens raging on pointless facts.

again..

[Rowan]

I honestly rank XII amoung the worst ff games made. Couldnt relate to characters, story was less than engaging (if not a rip off of star wars, seriously) battle system was actually fun, but in my opinion, the only thing that felt good about it. The world map was also quote beautiful. But with a bad story and bad characters, it ranks amoungst the worst in my opinion.

FF7 had great characters, amazing music, superb production value, engaging storyline, battle system, array of monsters, side quests, balanced development and progression, great variety of weapons and side story, optional characters, mini games, bosses and pretty much everything you would expect of a great JRPG.

It also started my ongoing obsession with Tifa.

[loaf]

I honestly rank XII amoung the worst ff games made. Couldnt relate to characters, story was less than engaging (if not a rip off of star wars, seriously) battle system was actually fun, but in my opinion, the only thing that felt good about it. The world map was also quote beautiful. But with a bad story and bad characters, it ranks amoungst the worst in my opinion.

FF7 had great characters, amazing music, superb production value, engaging storyline, battle system, array of monsters, side quests, balanced development and progression, great variety of weapons and side story, optional characters, mini games, bosses and pretty much everything you would expect of a great JRPG.

It also started my ongoing obsession with Tifa.

FFXII has everything in that but better. Your opinion way different.

[Rowan]

Name one mini-game in ffXII?
I just found it bland. Very bland.

[TraceurEvans]

I think most will say VII because they don't like XII battle system or so. But I think they're both amazing, but I prefer VII