Brotherhood of Doom v. The Masters: Open Q&A

[Nin`]

I felt that was relevant to the current discussion between Nin` and Lucid and may present an example of how contact between both participants can help the battle considerably.

Danke mein Bruder. But I weyken now that Lucid and me have resolved our minor problems, for the most part. This keeping in contact with your enemy thing is a good idea, yo!

As I didn't notice within the rules, when a person fails to post within the time limit - does that mean their character is to be slain?

Interesting question. But the best person to ask would probably be Argentos/LocoColt.

From what I can logically establish however, no, I don't think they would be slain. The reason why I think this is because I'm sure that any character can only be slain once a victor has been decided - and thus a death post granted (which may only involve two characters).

No death post, no death.

This would mean that being replaced does not imply being slain. They simply walk away.

Makes sense to me.

[Prodigal Madness]

No death post, no death.

This would mean that being replaced does not imply being slain. They simply walk away.

Makes sense to me.

Though it doesn't make sense as to why the replacements risk their characters, but not the main combatants. Trying to get this point across before Loco replies. Failing to post within the time might as well be falling in battle. What risk do any of you MAIN string fighters have? You don't risk your characters in the fight. Only us reserve fighters actually risk losing our characters if we participate.

I had thought the whole point of this war was death to the losers? While the reserves keep a *battle* from being lost, being replaced means you, yourself, lost. Anyway, less someone directs something at me, I'll wait for Loco's reply.



And as for the death post, why can it only be between two people? =/ The opposing player could always finish off the one that, effectively, lost the fight at any time. The official death post is for after the battle has been judged and a winner declared. Again, being replaced means you lose. IMO, that's a death warrant right there.

[Akira]

Well, there's one simple reason why no one is going to wait out the time limit just to escape the battle...what would the point be? If that were the case with any of the fighters involved in this war, I would suggest they officially surrender their characters and leave the according faction. Fact is, people submitted their services for war so that they could FIGHT! No one is forcing them. Why join a war if you don't even feel like fighting? If anybody truly fell under this example that you proposed Prodiginal Madness, then they might as well have relented from ever siging up for the war. They would have lost just as little had they just not signed on at all.

And to correct you, the main fighters have just as much to lose as the reserves. The reserves are only officially in danger (in the case that they lose) once they enter the battle. If they do not enter, the main fighter is still the one who's putting his character on the line. And as I already pointed out, it's trivial to contemplate the possibility of someone dropping out purposely.

In fact, Prophet presented an excellent arguement as to the preposterousness of such a mindset. The fighters whole faction may risk losing if he/she were to drop out, so it seems very unlikely that someone would abandon their comrades at a time like this.

[Nin`]

[Nin`] I honestly don’t think that these matters have ever been discussed actually, at least not in such depth. I should add here that the following is my own interpretation on things, but I feel it still makes relative sense.

[Prodigal Madness] Though it doesn't make sense as to why the replacements risk their characters, but not the main combatants.

[Nin`] Eh? How did you come to this conclusion? Let’s see…

[Prodigal Madness] Failing to post within the time might as well be falling in battle.

[Nin`] There is a difference between falling in battle and walking away. The RP characters are forced to walk away (who are then disqualified) because those controlling them failed to post (who forfeit the battle).

[Prodigal Madness] What risk do any of you MAIN string fighters have? You don't risk your characters in the fight. Only us reserve fighters actually risk losing our characters if we participate.

[Nin`] I don’t see how you came to this idea. If “main string fighters” can walk away, then there is no reason why reserve fighters can’t either (though why they even chose to enter/select themselves in the first place would be a wonder (and quite pointless overall) if they decided to do this); it would just mean that your faction forfeits the overall battle. Technically speaking it’s not the RP character that actually loses anything, since the RP character is never actually beaten; it’s the one controlling them. They lose by default, and so their character is naturally withdrawn/disqualified.

[Prodigal Madness] I had thought the whole point of this war was death to the losers?

[Nin`] As I said above, characters that flee/walk away haven’t technically lost anything since they haven’t actually been beaten; they’re disqualified. The ones controlling them would simply lose by default, but we obviously can’t kill them. But above all that, and more importantly, is that the losing club will be annihilated – whether characters also are or not. This is the main aim of the war, to destroy the opposing club. This is achieved by winning battles, either by default or a stunning victory. Of course I think its safe to say that we’d all prefer the latter.

[Prodigal Madness] And as for the death post, why can it only be between two people?

[Nin`] Because these battles are strictly one on one events. Only one character can effectively be beaten in battle and thus actually lose the fight via judgement. If a character is disqualified because the one controlling them failed to post within the set time limit, then they’re disqualified from the entire battle – meaning it doesn’t include them anymore. They’re out.

[Prodigal Madness] The official death post is for after the battle has been judged and a winner declared. Again, being replaced means you lose. IMO, that's a death warrant right there.

[Nin`] Being replaced means that a person is out, i.e. loses by default because they didn’t follow the set time rules. The RP character has lost nothing, they are simply disqualified. Only when an RP character is beaten in battle can a death post be issued. If they’re not beaten in battle then how can you hope to slay them?

[Nin`] If a reserve fighter didn’t post within the set time limit they would also lose by default, with their character disqualified. That side would then lose the overall battle by default. Which would be a pity but a win none the less.

[Nin`] Having said all that however, perhaps those who do fail to post within the time limit should surrender their characters in the event of their clubs defeat. But since this all wasn't really discussed or made clear before the war began (at least from what I've read) then surrending characters should perhaps be optional. But eitherway, a defeat is a defeat.