The Old Skool Cult of Kefka, bitches!

**Georg Prime** · 02-19-2007, 10:22 AM

I salute you for taking the initiative of doing some old school gaming Jin. You gotta love Sim City 2000, I used to be hooked on that way back when. I had the original Sim City, but 2000 was much better. I remember how much I loved the fact that you could change the look of the buildings to the futuristic tilesets. I was so impressed.

Well I'm basically done with Rogue Galaxy at about 40 hours. The main quest that is, but there is a SHIT LOAD of extra stuff to do. I'm not sure whether I'm going to do it now, or finish it later because I still got Okami and Grandia to finish too. *sigh* Next on my list after these three titles is Valkyrie Profile 2 and Jade Empire on the PC. That'll still be awhile away though obviously.

I've been having a craving in my loins for some old school gaming. More specifically, Super Mario Allstars and Secret of Mana. I'm going to hunt down an SNES power cord and get back to some old school gaming soon!

Keep Slaying the N00bs bitches!

**ZRO** · 02-19-2007, 09:00 PM

Just to let ya know, Jade Empire will only keep you busy for about 20-24 hours per run through. Damned good game, but just a tad bit on the short side (unlike BioWare's KOTOR series @.@).

Jade Empire was what I used to keep myself entertained when I got my net cut off for a while one time, and it uhh...ran out of game before my net came back up. <_<;;

CP:
Way too much FFXI...which is usual

**Georg Prime** · 02-20-2007, 12:37 PM

Wow, that is good to know, thanks for the info. 20-24 hours though? That is a slap in the face to a rpg gamer! People complain about 30 hours being short, but damn I could finish that game in a few days. I've played both the KOTOR games briefly already, and I was hoping to get into something new, and I really like the style and asian influence of the game. I guess I'll have to think about it, because it does definitely look like a good game but that is pretty short.

Oh yeah..and I have entered my old school hero number 3 phase.

LONG LIVE CYRUS!

**Juice** · 03-04-2007, 10:50 PM

xD hi my special underloved cult - i have been most horrible in keeping away from you all! But
So now im back at school and need every reason to procrastonate i figure this is the ultimate place to do it! (I started art school this year - uni is very scary and exciting. Much drawing of anime etc on my behalf, but i think my teachers will get angry if i donnt do some "proper "art"" soon.)

Any one miss me? lol

Anyway, my most exciting news is a friend has found me a CD from china which has pretty much all FF's on it. (not inclueding 11 or 12) I dont have a gameboy so im excited. =D

Despite the very confusing translating ive been playing FFII. ^_^ Tis awesome. But can someone explain the learn function? When i talk to people in towns they want to teach me or learn something. I can't figure out what to do >.<

So, other wise currently playing FF12 in all its splendor and glory. Actually 12 reminds me of the older ff's in the way you have to take time out to lvl and get money (so hate getting money right now xD). XIII and IX were perticually easy to finish without much effort on the leveling up behalf.

**Plastik Assassin** · 03-05-2007, 08:52 AM

To stay on topic. FFXII = My favorite so far. No joke. I dont want to beat this game....

Also, my reason for posting - I finally got FF6 for my GBA. Now I can finally see what the fuss is all about. I have played it for about an hour, and so far I can see its potential. The characters seem a little fruity this far, but the moogles are awesome....

Who knows, maybe i'll pull a Cesar and love the hell out of this game. Dunno.

CP: FFVI Advance ( GBA )
FFXII ( PS2 )
Shining Force 2 ( Emulator )

**Cloud Strife X** · 03-05-2007, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Plastik Assassin

Also, my reason for posting - I finally got FF6 for my GBA. Now I can finally see what the fuss is all about. I have played it for about an hour, and so far I can see its potential. The characters seem a little fruity this far, but the moogles are awesome....

Who knows, maybe i'll pull a Cesar and love the hell out of this game. Dunno.

Haha, well, I guess it does start off kinda slow. You'll enjoy it more and more as you go on; everything develops really well. Trust me.

Beyond that, I went through FFT:A a second time, thus confirming how much arse it kicks. I hate that it gets such bad rep just because it's inferor to the original, but I guess comparisons are inevitable. It's a good game in its own right, though. Now i've moved on to, ah, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon for GBA. *cough* Why that is, I don't know. It's pretty good, but a bit repetitive. And the story sucks. Then again, you don't play Pokemon games for the story, now, do you?

CP:
Starcraft
Counter-Strike (as usual)
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team

**Jin** · 03-05-2007, 09:45 AM

I missed you, Juice.

Plastik: Seriously, it's your favourite so far? Blaaaaaah. I can't stand it. The story is generic and without mysticism; the characters are simplistic and one dimensional; the main character is a joke and is so unimportant that I forget he's the main character and the battle system gives me the same kind of nightmares that I still periodically get from playing FFXI. The ability system was poorly planned out and is just a worse version of FFX's sphere grid with the noticable handicaps of having everyone boringly start in relatively the same place, giving them no diversity and making it so you have to fly blind for your first time through, negating any possible way to plan out your characters. It's a joke!

/rant

On another topic though, kudos for Shining Force 2. I should really start that up again.

CP:
Call of Duty 2
Rise of Nations
Civilization IV
SimCity 2000

**Georg Prime** · 03-05-2007, 10:40 AM

Just for the record, Shining Force 2 is my favorite strategy game of all time. If only we could see the holy grail of Shining Force 3 AND all it's scenarios that weren't released here originally. I think I would have a new favorite If I could get my hands on those.

You people are certainly loving FF XII. I liked it for sure..but not my top game. I agree that it starts out slow, but you'll enjoy it more as the game goes on. I still have yet to beat all the clan hunts and everything myself. I have a strange habit of getting to the end of a game then putting it on the back burner.

I put Rogue Galaxy (at the final boss) and Okami on hold for the time being, because I bought a new AC adapter and two new and crisp SNES controllers. Now I am brushing the dust off of my SNES and getting back into the oldschool stuff. I've been playing a lot of Super Mario Allstars in my quest to beat all the games again. I've also been considering starting a new game in one of my RPGs, possibly Super Mario RPG but I'm not sure. In addition, I've been ordering a few old SNES games off of amazon, Battle Toads in Battle Maniacs, Battle Toads/Double Dragon, and Legend of the Mystical Ninja. My friend and I are die hard SNES fans so I wanted to find some good multiplayer games (right now I mostly own a lot of rpgs besides mario and zelda). I remember how hard those Battle Toads games are but we are really determined to beat them. I have quite a few more SNES games I'm ordering in the future as well.

SO LONG LIVE THE OLD SCHOOL!

..oh yeah and I ordered Mario Golf for my Nintendo 64 as well. Not TOO oldschool, but a really fun game none the less.

**Plastik Assassin** · 03-05-2007, 11:39 AM

See, my thing with FFXII is this...

In most FF games, theres a challenge up until level 50 or so. Then, you have two options. either beat the thing, or level up to 99 and do all the top stuff. From 50-99 - You are bored as hell. With FFXII, there is constantly something out there to challenge you every 5 levels or so. That alone, is why I like it. I never get tired of leveling and whatnot. Sure, the story sucks, the license grid needs work, and most of the characters are one-dimensional, but I simply don't get bored with it. Nothing more, nothing less....

To agree w/ you guys one more time... SF2 is the shit. I am on my like, 900th time through. That doesn't get old either.... m

CP : ( see 3 posts up or so )

**Jin** · 03-05-2007, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Plastik Assassin

See, my thing with FFXII is this...

In most FF games, theres a challenge up until level 50 or so. Then, you have two options. either beat the thing, or level up to 99 and do all the top stuff. From 50-99 - You are bored as hell. With FFXII, there is constantly something out there to challenge you every 5 levels or so. That alone, is why I like it. I never get tired of leveling and whatnot. Sure, the story sucks, the license grid needs work, and most of the characters are one-dimensional, but I simply don't get bored with it. Nothing more, nothing less....

To agree w/ you guys one more time... SF2 is the shit. I am on my like, 900th time through. That doesn't get old either.... m

CP : ( see 3 posts up or so )

From that perspective, yeah, I can agree with you, it's definately been challanging enough. I don't know, challange has always been second to me when compared to the fun of just playing the game itself. I really didn't mind the fact that 7-10 weren't terribly difficult. I mean, there's a limit obviously, but you get my drift. I think.

**Dauragon** · 03-15-2007, 05:48 PM

Hey all.

I'm still around and what not. I usually only get around to checking the site once a week, and even then, I don't look at many threads. Ehh. That's life. Most of my time these days has pulling my hair out when I hear people talking about "300" like it's history. It's okay though, I'm remaining calm and explaining to my peers the facts.

Anyway. Not much old skool happening lately. Hell, not many video games lately either. Most of that time has been replaced with writing, composing, and playing music. With that in mind...

CP: Hammond Organ. It is quite awesome.

**LocoColt04** · 03-05-2007, 01:30 PM

Wii's virtual console has blessed me with The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and Sonic the Hedgehog. Yes, that's right Dawezy, I gots me some Sonic.

Speaking of Sonic, Sonic and the Secret Rings for the Wii is the first Sonic game that has been any good in a decade. It's what Sonic in the third dimension should have been from the start. That's not to say that the Adventure games were bad, but they just weren't very... Sonic. You know?

Currently Playing:
LoZ:LttP (Wii VC)
Sonic the Hedgehog (Wii VC)
Sonic and the Secret Rings (WII)
SSX Blur (WII)
Final Fantasy VI (GBA)
Final Fantasy III (NDS)
Final Fantasy XI (PC)

**Cain Highwind** · 03-05-2007, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by LocoColt04

Wii's virtual console has blessed me with The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and Sonic the Hedgehog. Yes, that's right Dawezy, I gots me some Sonic.

Speaking of Sonic, Sonic and the Secret Rings for the Wii is the first Sonic game that has been any good in a decade. It's what Sonic in the third dimension should have been from the start. That's not to say that the Adventure games were bad, but they just weren't very... Sonic. You know?

Currently Playing:
LoZ:LttP (Wii VC)
Sonic the Hedgehog (Wii VC)
Sonic and the Secret Rings (WII)
SSX Blur (WII)
Final Fantasy VI (GBA)
Final Fantasy III (NDS)
Final Fantasy XI (PC)

I'll raise your Sonic and VC games with Ristar and Fatal Fury Battle Archives 2. Just got it from Play-asia the other day.

Real Bout Special 4 LIFE!

Hopefully, Wii owners will get a chance to play it on VC now that the Neo-geo is being added.

CP:
Phoenix Wright AA (DS)
Garou BA2 PS2 IMPORT (with Full English option)
Ristar -wii VC

**azrafel** · 03-17-2007, 09:10 AM

I haven't been playing much of anything lately....

Except for Star Ocean 3

I love the star ocean series.

CP : SO3

**Georg Prime** · 03-21-2007, 10:28 AM

Yeah I love the Star Ocean series too, probably my favorite...of all time..er till the end of time. I'm really curious and anxious to see what they are going to do with Star Ocean 4, though that's really getting ahead of myself seeing as it's not even been announced or anything.

Well I finished Rogue Galaxy and have been making lots of game purchases off of amazon lately so I've been swamped with games. Along with my N64 and SNES games (AKA non stop Harvest Moon 64, and multiplayer SNES games), I ordered Xenosaga II, Xenosaga III, Radiata Stories, Dragon Quest VIII, and Disgaea. I'm going through Xenosaga II and III first, but of course I still have Okami and Grandia on the backburner to finish as well. So needless to say I'm gonna be pretty busy with games for awhile.

Currently playing..see sig.

**Cloud Strife X** · 03-21-2007, 11:16 AM

I've... uh... never played any Star Ocean games before. *cough* I've heard good things about the series, though, mostly from, uh, people on this forum. I guess I can try to find a copy of one of the games somewhere this summer, or download the original for my SNES emulator.

In the meantime, i've had the usual assortment of multiplayer games to keep me company, plus my ex-roomie and I have been getting together to play Mario Kart 64 once again, which is a blast, as always. I've played very little in the way of true old-school games, though. Shame on me!

CP:
Starcraft: Brood War
CounterStrike: CZ
Neverwinter Nights
Mario Kart 64

**Jin** · 03-22-2007, 09:33 PM

I never really got around to playing much Star Ocean. I've seen the 3rd one played and it looked alright to me, but I have yet to see much of any others.

I nearly was able to do some old school gaming today. I found that I had Buhumat Lagoon and Romancing Saga 3 via emulation on my laptop and I thought to myself, hmmmm, why am I not playing these? Then I started to play them and it hit me. The former is still in Japanese and the latter has odd bits of characters that I'm not even sure computers can make instead of text. That was nice and not dissapointing at all. Oh well. I have a huge essay due on wednesday so most of my time is being given to that as of late. I did manange to get some Civ 4 in today, but that's hardly old school, so I guess it's irrelevant.

CP:
Civ 4
Essay

**Georg Prime** · 03-23-2007, 12:17 AM

Ha, Mario Kart 64 is kinda old school..still a classic game though.

I'd definitely recommend playing Romancing Saga 3 and Bahamut Lagoon though, they both are GREAT rpgs, though certainly a lot different. Bahamut Lagoon is a strategy RPG, while Romancing Saga 3 is a really open ended adventure with a crap load of characters you are able to recruit and pick from. My ending party was great with my lobster, the vampire, and I can't remember who else...Mikhail was my main character. If you can find *cough*couugh* english patches *cough*cough that'd be great.

I'd defintely tell people to check out Star Ocean series too, especially if you love the battle systems from the early 2D tales games like Tales of Phantasia (since they are basically the same). Sci fi storylines that all take place in the same universe, a great cast of characters (all have certain requirements for getting though, thus forcing the player to play the game two times or more to get them all), multiple endings, long end of game dungeons with extra tough boss battles, plus throw in difficulty settings once you beat the game. Some of the boss battles in these games even not on the highest difficulty can be pretty tough. But Indalecio (from Star Ocean 2), with his limiter off on universe mode (highest difficulty) has to be hands down the hardest boss battle in an rpg. I don't anything else could come close.

Yeah Cloud, Star Ocean 1 you should be really impressed with considering it's an SNES game. It's amazing everything they could fit into this cart. I think it and Tales of Phantasia are the only two games to have 48 mb carts which is the limit. The recorded voices is what really did it though. It's one of my favorites of the series, I don't like a lot of the changes they made with 3 but it's still a great game.

**Scorpian** · 03-29-2007, 11:29 AM

Ok, so i have no idea what you guys are talking about ^^;
But, I r Still amongst the land of the living. Somehow o.O
Not much doing in the way of gaming...EXCEPT
I am Admin of FFL. And i invite all old skoolers ( especially OSCoK ) to play with meh. I will totally hook you up. Just ask DD and Zro ( who hasn't come back since i hooked him up lol )
get the server at byond.com then go here :
byond://72.138.177.132:9868

i'll be lookin for yas!

Peace out!

**Georg Prime** · 03-29-2007, 12:22 PM

Sounds cool, but slap my ass and call me a n00blet, but I don't know what FFL is.

I assume it stands for Final Fantasy..something. Legend? *scratches head* Do tell though, do tell.

Not A LOT of old school news to report on. I've still got my SNES in action for the occasional multiplayer game with my friend, but mostly I've been swamped with PS2 rpgs still. I must say Xenosaga II is a disgrace to all that is old school rpg gaming, and to anyone who is the "gameplay over graphics" kind of person. I beat this game in like four days, it took me 20 hours. If that wasn't short enough, take in to account how many hours of cutscenes there are in this game (I'm guessing somewhere around half of the game or slighty less), and you'll see you're definitely not getting much bang for your back. Great story but man..boring and repetitive gameplay, and I hate the battle system. That final boss was sure one tough cookie though.

Anyhoo, that is all, starting Xenosaga III soon. I'm happy to hear that this game is much better, and about twice as long as II.

**LocoColt04** · 03-30-2007, 03:02 AM

Envy me, for I am thy master.

Valkyrie Profile. The original. For the Playstation.

And I'm getting it for under $15. How?

I love my store's nationwide lookup. I searched the SKU for the game, and the closest one was in a store in Virginia. I promptly whipped out my cell phone (as to not charge my store for the long-distance call), ran into the back room, and dialed the store. The store manager picked up and I asked him if he happened to have a copy of the game. Sure enough, he found it... and he's shipping it to my store first thing in the morning. It should be here Monday or Tuesday.

So then, the price? GameStop sells Valkyrie Profile for $60. We're running a sale for 75% off all PSX and N64 games. Ta-da! Pile on the employee discount and I'm paying pennies.

Bids on the original game on sites like eBay tend to start around $50 and rocket up to $150 or higher. I'm fucking lucky.

**Cloud Strife X** · 03-30-2007, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by LocoColt04

Envy me, for I am thy master.

Valkyrie Profile. The original. For the Playstation.

And I'm getting it for under $15.

I hate you sometimes.

Hmmm... anyway, not much to report here, just pluggin' away at Phantasy Star IV, which I got my hands on recently. I'll check out the FFL link when I get some spare time, I guess.

CP:
Counter-Strike (PC) (as usual)
Mario Party 2 (N64)
Phantasy Star IV (Genesis/Mega Drive)

**Scorpian** · 03-30-2007, 04:50 AM

Close Cyrus. FFL stands for Final Fantasy Legacy. What it is, is a free online MMORPG based on FFIV. Where you can team up to play in the worl of FFIV using anyclass from that game.

It used to be quite the Old SKool staple during our SU days, ZRO even made a comic out of it. And what I'm trying to do ( now that I'm basically in charge there ) is bring some of that spirit back. SO please come check it out. I'm not hard to find on there lol

PS. LC..you lucky basted XD

**Georg Prime** · 03-30-2007, 07:16 AM

That is pretty damn lucky LC, I own the original copy of the game as well. I was gonna say I was lucky that I got that game when it was originally out, so I didn't have to pay 70-150 dollars for it, but not I even got it at that cheap.

I F***ing love that game though..and I recently got Valkyrie Profile 2 off of amazon, even THAT game is getting expensive though. I'm pumped to play it once I'm done with Xenosaga III, I've heard its got a bit of a challenge to it which is good. A 75% off sale though? That's insane, there are quite a few games for the N64/PSX I wouldn't mind using that on..Ogre Battle 64 and Saiyuki: Journey West just to name a few.

Damn a MMORPG based on FF IV? That does sound awesome..AND old skool of course!

I've never gotten into mmorpgs much at all, but I mite just have to check that out. Dark Knight FTW!

Yeah not much else to report..look above (or below in my sig) for games.

**LocoColt04** · 03-30-2007, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by CYRUS

I F***ing love that game though..and I recently got Valkyrie Profile 2 off of amazon, even THAT game is getting expensive though.

You kids gotta learn to shop at GameStop. I bought Valkyrie Profile 2 used (a SPOTLESS perfect copy, at that) for $30 yesterday. Add on the 10% from my discount card and the 15% for my employee discount, and I only paid $22.94 for it, pre-tax. (Even without the employee discount, realize that you could save $3 with the card.)

By the way, if there's ever anything you guys are looking for, let me know. Though GameStop as a company technically doesn't carry anything older than last-gen stuff any more, there are still stores that have PSX/N64 games as well as the rare SNES/NES/GEN games. I can't guarantee that you'll get flawless discs, but at least with cartridges you don't have to worry about it much. You guys let me know what you're looking for and I'll buy it for you -- then all I ask is that you reimburse me. I'll even ship it off for free... all I want from you is what I paid (that includes my discount, so you're paying what I'd pay, basically).

I can get any store to ship anything to me, assuming it's in stock somewhere.

Oh, and I also picked up Romancing Saga and FFIV-A while I was spending money. I just can't wait for next week when my Valkyrie Profile comes in with the shipments. ^____^

You guys have to realize that I never had a PSX. The only PSX games I own are FFT and FFIX. There are a LOT of amazing games I missed out on.

**Georg Prime** · 04-01-2007, 08:16 AM

Come again? You've never owned a PSX? Wow, so how many PSX rpgs have you played? It's definitely got a lot of great games, and more specifically, it's a damn good rpg console. I think the SNES was the original badass rpg console, followed by the PSX, and of course now it's followup the PS2. If you need any good recommendations for good rpgs aside from the Squenix norm, let me know because I've played/beaten atleast 75-85% of the rpgs for the PSX.

Yeah and that Gamestop hookup sounds nice. Is that on the online store too? Usually I can find good deals on amazon/ebay, but I am reluctant to buy used CDs, because they are so delicate and I've gotten some used Dremcast games that didn't even work. Used cartridges are fine, but sometimes I'm reluctant to buy used cd based games (online atleast). I've found some great deals even on new ps2 games though, I'm getting a handful of new games each one for between 5-10 dollars.

Not much more gaming news to report. Still working on Xenosaga III, got a million other rpgs to play/more on the way as well. I'm kinda sad because I've been house sitting the last few days watching a neighbor's dog. They have the ultimate home theater system, and I brought over my PS2 and all my games to take advantage of it. I'm going to miss playing on their 60" HD plasma screen and surround sound. It's not going to be the same now that I'm done with the job and going to have to play on my normal sized tv.

**LocoColt04** · 04-01-2007, 07:55 PM

Please do; I'd love some suggestions for PSX RPGs.

As previously mentioned, I own FFIX and FFT. I'm about to have Valkyrie Profile. I'm seeking a copy of Suikoden II.

I've played FFVII and Chrono Cross... and that's pretty much it.
I'd like to get my hands on a copy of FFVIII as well, just to have.

i r teh nub

Help plzkthx?

**Georg Prime** · 04-01-2007, 10:39 PM

Hmmmm, well aside from the squenix rpgs, I'd recommend..

suikoden I and II (which you mentioned), Vandal Hearts which is a really fun strategy rpg, Kartia, another strategy rpg which was pretty much an unheard of rpg, it feature character designs by Amano. Star Ocean 2, which is one of my favorite rpgs on the system (big star ocean fan and this is probably the best in the series), Grandia of course, I am still playing through it right now though.

Alundra is a must play action rpg, think something like zelda, but a lot weirder and a lot harder. If you're looking for something different, either of the Persona titles would be good, or Thousand Arms. I've noticed you like Tales games, I thought Tales of Destiny was decent, I liked Tales of Destiny 2 (Eternia) a lot more though. And Arc the Lad Collection is a great deal with three games (even though the first is short as hell and almost like an intro to 2).

..that only scratches the surface there, there are many other good possibilities out there for PSX rpg gaming.

**Scorpian** · 04-19-2007, 12:05 PM

Great Satan! 14days and NO ONE has posted here?! o.O Wtf is up with that guys? You should all be ashamed.
Also..not a ONE of you has shown thyself on my FFL....sad days indeed for old skool gamers everywhere...tsk tsk tsk

*kills Zro, hurts Jin*

**ZRO** · 04-19-2007, 12:43 PM

We do that specifically to wait for you to post and yell at us Scorp, ya didn't know? ^^

Besides, all I do lately is play FFXI, WoW (trial ftw, not impressed enough to start paying for it tho I don't think), and Counter-Strike:Source, tho I'm busy appropriating a copy of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-Shadow of Chernobyl atm. It sounds to be interesting, so I thought I'd give it a whirl. Oblivion type game with FPS style? Hellz yeah. ^^

CP:
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