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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister View Post
    I am Pro-Life...but I support Pro-Choice. The sort of factors that influence that particular decision are the exact factors that no one should be able to legislate or mandate as a standard for all peoples and situations. The factors that affect that are morals. It has always been a personal opinion and maxim of mine that morality should never be legislated. People have tried in the past. Drugs, prohibition, prostitution...etc... But in the end, you simply make the people that don't share that particular moral more desperate. Desperate people do stupid, damaging things. From a damage control perspective, it is far less costly to make it legal and let people make up their own minds.

    It could be said that abortion is murder, depending on your definition of murder, death and life. But ah, you see, we are the ones that write those definitions. Death, life and murder are up to us and us alone, as a species, to define. If legalizing is put to a majority vote and either voted in or shot down, then I would think the nature of those definitions to be in-evidence.

    With that out of the way, I do believe it is murder. I would never stay with anyone who had undergone an abortion unless they were penitent about said abortion. I would never give my consent to an abortion under my roof, should I ever chance to have a family. But I do not look down upon others because of my beliefs, as my beliefs are personal and do not apply to people who are not me. I could be accused of being hypocritical for saying that I would not give my wife or daughter consent to have an abortion under my roof. So be it, not giving consent does not equal stopping it by any means necessary and, as always, there are mitigating factors.

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    I am pro choice but you have certainly put forth your reasoning soundly and with no agression towards others choices. You did not say you would 'forbid' a family member from abortion but would not support it. I think that is very fair and your choice in life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan View Post
    Abortion isn't murder anymore than ejaculating into oblivion. Its not a human, it doesnt have life nor has this parasite had the chance too. The poor rape victims who have to bring up bastard children from a rapist because people like you enforced abortion laws. I'm assuming most people here dont have a problem with killing animals and eating animals? What gives you the right to take a living thing such as an animal's life away, but not that of an unborn child? You believe animals dont have feelings or intellect therefor they are not worthy of life, simple. I agree. I believe the same about a fetus. They are not developed, they are merely parasites evolving into a human and therefor have no less right to die than any animal. It would be harsher to force a birth into a family or to a mother that did not want them. Especially if the father raped the mother.
    Rowan you have started your discussion from a very agressive standpoint, even to the point of antagonizing someone who put forth their views very candidly and with no malice. Even though I agree with your basic stand of Pro-Choice I think you are someone who is either a terrible person, or just cannot put forth your views in a calm collected manner. Instead you continuously attempt to cause Sin to lash back at you which they have not done. This seems to have only made you angrier and have started to make you look rather silly.

    TL; DR I am Pro-Choice but I think Sin has every right to his views on this matter, they have not said they would forbid an abortion, they would merely not condone such a choice. They even went so far as to address mitigating circumstances.
    "Evil spelled backwards is Live, and we all want to do that now don't we?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroZero View Post
    Rowan you have started your discussion from a very agressive standpoint, even to the point of antagonizing someone who put forth their views very candidly and with no malice. Even though I agree with your basic stand of Pro-Choice I think you are someone who is either a terrible person, or just cannot put forth your views in a calm collected manner. Instead you continuously attempt to cause Sin to lash back at you which they have not done. This seems to have only made you angrier and have started to make you look rather silly.

    TL; DR I am Pro-Choice but I think Sin has every right to his views on this matter, they have not said they would forbid an abortion, they would merely not condone such a choice. They even went so far as to address mitigating circumstances.
    Nothing truly malicious in my posts, and Sin knows. Thank you for your concern.

    I was just thinking further, how can pro choice and pro life coincide? Example. "I have the right to choose to end your life" In this case, we consider the unborn, living, or at least a potential life (not in the sense of glorified sperm).

    Its a paradox, isn't it? Or have I just presented it as a paradox?
    Last edited by Rowan; 06-26-2013 at 12:08 AM.

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