Marriage Denied

[Sasquatch]

When did you decide to become straight?

I didn't have to decide, it's only natural. Or, you could say that I "decided" to be straight at about the same time I "decided" that I wasn't attracted to children, or animals, or car tailpipes.

I acknowledged I was wrong and in my wording and restated it adding "Presidents that have never served in cabinet" but you chose to exclude that.

Actually, you didn't, and even if you did, you would have still been wrong. Whoops.

Do at least some research on your own about the topic. Many people have been interviewed; The church admits to it happening but Sassy won't.

When did the church admit to it happening? That wasn't in the article you posted.

Your first argument is that it prevents reproduction, so it can't be genetic, because naturally, genetic traits tell us to reproduce. All of this is true, but it doesn't prove your point. Since many gay couples resort to surrogacy to have children, then it could indeed be genetic, being as they still have a natural tendency to reproduce.

Homosexual adoption is much more common than surrogacy, but the fact remains that acting solely upon homosexuality prevents the passing of genetic material. As such, the only way for it to occur naturally would be as a genetic mutation -- a genetic abnormality, a genetic defect, whatever you'd like to call it.

Your second argument is that homosexual tendencies can't be learned or developed, since it isn't taught. However, heterosexuality isn't taught either, yet I somehow developed heterosexual tendencies.

You're not taught to breathe, crawl, eat, cry, or many other activities. You don't need to be, because they're naturally imprinted on all of us, without the need to be "learned".

And naturally the church's clergy wouldn't lie about such an accusation. The fact of the matter is, whether the church is in fact innocent or not, it's still at fault at the moment. Whether they were denied because they're black or not remains to be seen, however, since the church is in racial Confederate country, and the pastor deliberately avoided making a statement, let alone show his face, I have my doubts about your doubts.

"Whether they actually did anything or not, they're still at fault"? So much for withholding judgement until facts come out, I suppose. You are believing the story of one couple, without any evidence or supporting arguments to back it up, that goes against the opinions of everybody who has had anything to do with this church.

If everyone is heterosexual, why would they WANT to start having relationships with other men? Explain this to me, for I do not understand it what so ever. The way sexual identity starts out, you have a predisposition to be homosexual or heterosexual or somewhere in between, gay and straight are hardly effective terms anymore.

Why would they want to start having sexual relationships with children, or animals, or dead people? Some people want that sort of thing.

A child lacks the ability to consent to something on their own merit, same with animals or whatever.

A century or two ago, interracial marriages weren't allowed on the grounds that anybody wanting to marry somebody of a "lesser" race is basically out of their mind, and the partner of the "lesser" race didn't have the mental capacity to choose to be married. Only a few decades ago, homosexuality was considered a mental disorder. Present day, we have plenty of people -- including some who have posted in this forum -- who believe that a child of nine or two is mature and intelligent enough to choose a partner for a sexual relationship. Hell, the age of consent in some countries is as low as nine years old. Most countries have an age of consent of between 14-16, and even some first-world countries have an age of consent at 13.

When you start declaring that some people are able/allowed to consent and some aren't, you get into a huge gray area.

Even IF in this magical world, homosexuality was a choice, what does that change anyway?

Why should a sexual perversion be treated the same as a natural relationship? Whether it's the same "status", or tax breaks, or whatever.

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me the natural difference between homosexuality, pedophilia, and zoophilia.