Marriage Denied

[Hobaginator]

Based on what I've seen being discussed so far about the general "**** you" idea towards people who don't support gay rights, I'm gonna take the opportunity to step in and give my opinion on the matter. I better not be accused of trolling or flaming, because that would insinuate that I'm posting only to get a rise out of people. Not true. The indignation one might feel upon reading my opinions may be the result of their inherent homosexuality. Of course, if you want people to respect your opinions, ideals and sexual orientation... then it would by hypocritical not to respect others'.

What's even the point of gay couples getting married? It's not like you're gonna have kids to continue your lineage. So you want the same last name? Get a name change.

If you're a gay couple and you adopt, then *** you. Why would you force a little kid to grow up in a household that smells like human feces 24/7 with two queer dads? You're gonna mess the kid's head up. Figuring out love when you're growing up has enough trial and error on it's own without your "parents" explaining their warped views to you.

Maybe you should just respect the fact that being gay isn't a normal choice, it's abnormal. As common as homosexuality is nowadays, it's still abnormal.

I knew I was straight before I knew what straight was. I kissed girls as early as when I was in preschool. I've never kissed a man and I've never had the desire to. You start treating gay like it's normal and kids are gonna grow up twisted in the mind, which is already happening.

((If you're a sensitive priss, you should probably skip this next part))

Homosexual men are the disgrace of the male gender. If you look down, and you see a penis, then be a damn man. Queers don't realize that their queer attitude and sodomistic actions impact the rest of us men negatively. It does. Queers are so damn rampant in the world nowadays that women are even losing respect for us REAL men. There was a time when they respected the authority of the male voice. Queers are killing it with their sissy slang and floppy wrists. You know the worst insult a straight woman will give to a straight man when she's a scorned ex? She'll call him gay, accuse him of being gay, tell his friends/associates that he's gay. Even straight women use gay as an insult for a man as the worst thing they can think of. I don't see how queers can honestly think that women like them. Even their female friends just like having an immasculated shell of a man around because it makes them feel empowered. Women don't respect queers. Straight men hate queers. Queers need to stop trying to change the world into a gayer place. People like me will always resist them.

I'm not sure why we are even debating gay marriage in this thread that has nothing to do with it, but there you have it.

[Kyrel]

Maybe you should just respect the fact that being gay isn't a normal choice, it's abnormal.

It isn't a choice. You do not choose your sexual preference. You can choose however, to be repressed and ignore it. But that isn't healthy is it.

You start treating gay like it's normal and kids are gonna grow up twisted in the mind, which is already happening.

What do you mean they will grow up twisted and confused? You're either born straight or not. If anything they would grow up more accepting of differences around and be of less short-sighted bigots. It won't affect their upbringing in any negative way, at least I haven't witnessed any cases where such thing has happened.

Homosexual men are the disgrace of the male gender. If you look down, and you see a penis, then be a damn man. Queers don't realize that their queer attitude and sodomistic actions impact the rest of us men negatively. It does. Queers are so damn rampant in the world nowadays that women are even losing respect for us REAL men. There was a time when they respected the authority of the male voice. Queers are killing it with their sissy slang and floppy wrists. You know the worst insult a straight woman will give to a straight man when she's a scorned ex? She'll call him gay, accuse him of being gay, tell his friends/associates that he's gay. Even straight women use gay as an insult for a man as the worst thing they can think of. I don't see how queers can honestly think that women like them. Even their female friends just like having an immasculated shell of a man around because it makes them feel empowered. Women don't respect queers. Straight men hate queers. Queers need to stop trying to change the world into a gayer place. People like me will always resist them.

This is really ignorant. You're completely stereotyping, and I have witnessed many homosexuals to be just as manly if not more than straight guys. While being more educated, moral and more productive to society.
You're also leaving lesbians behind, because homosexual marriage and adoption do include them, you see.
I sense a lot of projecting here, maybe you should think some of your issues through. Best of luck

[Hobaginator]

I sense a lot of projecting here, maybe you should think some of your issues through. Best of luck

Projecting? No I pretty much said it outright. Gays are affecting manhood as a whole by exemplifying the feminization of the male gender. Gays and feminists in the media paint manhood as evil, and the more tolerance there is for homosexuals in our society, the less tolerance there is for straight men.

Why should I have to see two dudes kissing on TV? It's disgusting. If I can see it, then sure as hell there's kids out there who've been exposed. How would you feel if you were an animal lover and I snuck in a clip of cutting a cat's head off onto your TV? You'd feel the same way. Why should kids have to grow up in a society where they have to bear witness to homosexual behavior? It's not normal, it's not moral, and it's repulsive.

Homosexual behavior can be traumatizing to young children. When it's accepted as normal, it is painted all over the media. That's what's wrong with it. Honestly I don't think queers are born. I think they're made, and I think they're the product of being mentally traumatized and emotionally broken human beings. The more society lets it run out of control, the more men will resign their manhood, and the less women will respect the male gender as a whole. We are to be respected and feared, not "fabulous".

[Clint]

Also, queers are some of the weakest willed human beings on the planet -- that also might contribute to the rate of suicide. Truth is, queers tend to commit suicide because they're so ashamed of their homosexual tendencies that when word gets out, they commit ritualistic seppuku

The suicide rate of teenage homosexuals is higher than for teenage heterosexuals contributes to the intolerance of society. People are intolerant of them because they choose to love somebody of the same gender, which is ridiculous, because it's nobody's business who anybody loves.

Truth is, gays tend to commit suicide more often because too many punks like you are brutal and heartless. Your views towards homosexuality is sickening and pathetic.

Honestly I don't think queers are born. I think they're made, and I think they're the product of being mentally traumatized and emotionally broken human beings.

Well that's a pointless argument. Nobody is made heterosexual or homosexual. I'm not attracted to women because it's socially acceptable. I just have a natural attraction to women, just as gays have a natural attraction to the same sex. Though honestly, it's none of your goddamn business who anybody loves.

The more society lets it run out of control, the more men will resign their manhood, and the less women will respect the male gender as a whole. We are to be respected and feared, not "fabulous".

Who gives a shit if a man is feminine or not? That doesn't mean that you have to be feminine.

Men are not to be "respected and feared." That is by far the dumbest thing I've heard this month. In order to gain respect, you have to give respect. Since you give none, then nobody can see you for anything other then what you are. You are not to be feared. You are to be somebody strong yet gentile enough for your woman to confide in. That is the very definition of chivalry, and being a gentleman.

I have a secret that I need to share with you. You, sir, are a moron.

[Merlin]

For someone who participates in ID a lot Hobaginator, you sure don't do your research. Homosexuality and bisexuality is quite common in nature. Dwarf chimpanzees are one of the closest genetic relatives to humans and they are all bisexual. The younger ones even have oral sex with the older chimpanzees. Lions are homosexual. The male lions will have sex with each other to create a better bond in the pack. Scientists have documented over 1,500 different animal species having homosexual relations. Homosexuality isn't abnormal in the slightest. It's just narrow-minded people who insist that their way is the right way and everybody else is wrong who think otherwise. Nature doesn't lie.

[Rowan]

I used to be weary of homosexuals. I blame the media and how they are portrayed in film and the general concensus you see in society (back then, anyway). I wasn't born to be cautious of someones sexual preference, I grew up believing it was unnatural. That is until one day I found out one of my good mates is homosexual. I figured how hard it must be for him to be such a good person but have people not want to interact with him because of a sexual preference. What the hell does it matter whos buggering who? I realised how stupid it is to be neglectful. What you need to understand Hobignator, is not every gay guy wants to suck your ****.

grow up.

[Lacquer Head]

No, nobody is denied marriage. If gay marriage is illegal in 46 states, then go to one of the remaining four states that it's legal, and get married there.

If you get married in a state where it's legal, going back to your home state, where it's illegal will not void your marriage.

Also, if a gay person is offended that his state doesn't allow him and his partner to get married, there are other states that that person can live in where gay marriage is more tolerable.

There are always loopholes, but I'm the only one who ever thinks of them. Problem solved, again. Everybody makes a big deal about absolutely nothing.

yeah, pack up and sell everything to move to a state possibly across country, real great idea lol and yes, the marriages are only on the books in the state it is legal in.

Homosexual teens kill themselves because they hate themselves. That's why people kill themselves (shame). If people feared me, it wouldn't make me commit suicide. Also, queers are some of the weakest willed human beings on the planet -- that also might contribute to the rate of suicide. Truth is, queers tend to commit suicide because they're so ashamed of their homosexual tendencies that when word gets out, they commit ritualistic seppuku -- that is, they take their own life in shame. I'm all for weak-willed prissies committing seppuku; at least they're tough enough to do that. But at least they could salute the flag and yell "U.S.A.!" right before they do it instead of crying like most of them do.

Troll harder

[Clint]

yeah, pack up and sell everything to move to a state possibly across country, real great idea lol and yes, the marriages are only on the books in the state it is legal in.

Actually, the marriages have to be recognized by every state, otherwise the states are being unconstitutional, and therefore tyrannical, due to their violation of the equal-protection clause of the 14th Amendment, which states that "no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States."

It also violates the Full Faith and Credit Clause, which states that "full faith and credit ought to be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings, of every other state."

Laws are put in place for a reason. They're put in place to be followed, and so that when the justice system ****s up as badly as it has with gay marriage, citizens can defend their rights by using the Constitution, and point out that lawmakers are retarded homophobics.