Obama Healthcare

[RagnaToad]

I think you're not understanding what America has traditionally felt fair means.

America was built on pure capitalism. I understand that. But it makes it so that it's a pretty selfish world over there. To say the least.

And everybody does have an equal chance to get healthcare and in fact over 95% of the nation has it for themselves.

Do you really believe that? Saying that everyone can become a millionaire is both naive and kind of a paradox. If you love your capitalism, and know something about it, you know that not nearly everyone can get rich.

Speaking of fair, is it fair that I should have to pay more under this plan?

You see the people who don't have health care and can't pay for it as 'just a minority'. I can do exactly the same with people who's costs would be a little higher.

Is it fair that in all likehood my quality of care will go down?

Why would the quality go down? It would still be the same doctors. It would just be paid for in another way.
I guess the quality of health care in non-American countries is all crap, right?

Is it fair that my taxes would go up to pay for my pot addicted neighbor who has never tried to improve her life.

I don't see where this statement comes from.
And marijuana is far better a drug tha alcohol, in almost any way imagineable. You should have said 'crackhead'. It would have made more sense. But that's a different issue.

I might as you why the word fair in your eyes means giving something to somebody who hasn't earned it. I don't think that's ever the defintion of the word.

The issue is not what the definition of 'fair' is. But rather in what way a government should take care of her civilians.

And I really don't get why all those people are so paranoid about the government taking over their lifes. There is absolutely no reason to suspect such a thing. Before all those ridiculous claims about the USA turning into a communist dictatorship were to come true, there would have to happen a lot more than a plan to make health care affordable and accessable to all American civilians.


@ Sasquatch:

Bill O'Reilly may not be news reporter, but it's still on Fox News Channel, isn't it? I thought you were better than someone not seeing through the quality of Fox News. I take a look at some broadcasts, and they're a joke. It's really just entertainment. It's almost impossible to not laugh at how they approach certain subjects.

The other day, they were critisising Obama for visiting children in schools. They said he was recruiting democrats, and just might have been brainwashing them about the new healthcare reform. Of course, he didn't tell the children anything about that and was just telling them how important it is to stay in school, explaining them the value of a good education. But don't think the people at Fox bothered to tell the viewers that.

Another example would be the following: Rapper Jay-Z was celebrating about something Obama had done. At a particular party, he was rapping away, shouting words like 'nigga', 'motherfucker', the whole thing. The reporters at Fox were discussing and asking so-called experts why Obama didn't say anything about it. They just couldn't believe it... Why the hell would he? Because they are black rappers who like him, he should express how he doesn't agree with the language they use and the way they party?

Also, there was this woman last week who was debating in favour of the conservatives. She said to her opponent 'yeah but you probably have medicare'. The guy was like 'No, cause I'm not over 65...'. I mean, she doesn't even know what medicare is, and she's going to explain how socialised healthcare is from the devil? Sad.

That's just 3 small examples from the last two weeks alone.

Then there's Glenn Beck. Granted, he's not a News reporter, but he makes me laugh every time nontheless. When I watch him talk, I'm not sure whether I should be sad about the fact that some Americans actually eat that shit he sells, or just laugh away.

The other day he was explaining how the USA will become an oligarchy. He has this chalkboard on which he draws all these words and then connects them for whatever reason. For example, he connects some communist activist that Obama met when he was 8 years old. That MUST mean Obama is Stalin. Another example is how he calls Obama a racist, how he himself is extremely frightened to live in the USA right now.

Don't say THIS doesn't make you laugh:
YouTube - Glenn Beck Does Not Know How To Spell "Oligarchy"
(Don't pay attention to the spelling mistake. I'm not talking about that.)

But the worst (/best?) things I've seen him say, were comparisons between Obama and Hitler. (Yeah, the German guy.) He showed some advertisements from Nazi-Germany, constantly saying 'Does this sound familiar to you?', playing the crowd at home. But the most disgusting part of that farce was in the beginning when he started to cry about his daughter who was born with cerebral palsy. He paused now and then, crying about how Obama wouldn't want her to live and how it was all just like in Nazi-Germany.

I can't believe a guy like that still has a show on tv. Even if it is on Fox... There's a reason why most major sponsors during Beck's show have asked Fox for another time to show their commercials.