Health care is not a right. Nobody has the right to a service; the only right a person has is the right to life. Life is a process of self-sustaining, self-generated action; the right to life is the freedom to engage in self-generated and self-sustaining action – to take all actions required by the nature of a rational being for the support, the furtherance, the fulfillment, and the enjoyment of their own life (such is the meaning of the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness). The right to life means that a person has the right to support their life by their own work and the person cannot be deprived of their life for the benefit of another person nor of any number of other people. The notion that someone has the right to forcibly receive service from someone else is in nature not a right. Nobody has the right to initiate force against another human being; there is no right to violate the rights of others, yet so many of you think that people do. Health care is a service, it is not something given to humanity by nature, it is the product of people who have worked hard to acquire the skills needed to be sufficient in their trade in which they intend to make a living from. Many of you here believe that is totally within your rights to force people to either give you a free service or for other people to pay for your expenses. The only person responsible for their expenses is themselves, not others- people are not the caretakers of other people, they are not chattel as many of you want them to be. You do not respect their right to life at all, you would wish them a life a slavery paying for those who leach off of them. Those who support universal health care support the enslavement of humanity; that some people have more rights than others, that some people’s rights are not as important as others. Nobody’s rights can be violated, that is the nature of inalienable rights – semi-inalienable rights are contradictory in nature but many would wish it a reality.

Loaf, just because your hospital bills are high does not warrant the need for universal health care, if you want the real reason why health care is so high, look at the government that regulates it forcing prices sky high. It is not my or any other persons problem that you cannot afford a service, and health care is a service. Why should others be burden by your or any other person’s expenses? This is now more general not just aimed at Loaf- I love how all these people who support universal health care say that they are selfless, yet it is they who wish that other people pay for their expenses, for their livelihood, it is all about sustaining them, you ignore people’s rights to live their own life and want them to be forced to cater to you- that is more selfish than what the detractors desire. That type of selfish, is the brute that does not care about other people and takes whatever they want, not what I call for. If someone can afford health care then they can get, I will not stop them no matter what they are. You guys hide behind selflessness but are truly the brute who does not respect people treating them as sacrificial animals.

What has the government done that makes health care, health insurance costs so high? In the U.S you cannot buy health insurance from a different state, this constricts the market. Remember the recent “scandal” in New Jersey about them selling organs “illegally”? They were supplying the demand for that product at a much cheaper cost because the regulations on them are so strict it forces the prices and the surgeries so high. Now you will probably say, “Oh Zargabaath, the organs may not be suitable, they can be dangerous for them and die.” And I reply that they knew what they were buying, they knew the risks, it is the government that has caused the price to skyrocket, if the regulations from the government were abolished then prices would go down as more organs could be used, supply would go up to meet demand dropping prices all around. One more thing, if they didn’t get that organ “illegally”, then they would have suffered and died anyways because of the regulations set by governments. If all the regulations from on health care/health by the government were to be taken away, costs would come down. Everyone still may not be able to afford health care but then I say don't force people to provide service and pay for it, instead why not become a doctor and treat those who can't? Of course you would never do that because you can't be bothered, it is much better just to enslave others.

What many of you can’t seem to realize is that everything that government does costs exponentially more than what is first predicted, government cannot accurately predict costs because the program always expands and there is no competition against government- leading to massive debt. Government has its citizens to pay for their programs; government does not operate like a business that must make money to stay afloat. A business relies on the voluntary action of the consumer to buy their product, a government can just increase taxes.
Che, nobody has the right to force someone to give them a service. If you are sick and don’t want to pay then cure yourself, if you are dumb, educate yourself, otherwise pay for the service. Now it does not mean it must only be with money; my aunt was a chiropractor who accepted other forms of payments for those who did not have the money.

There is more opportunity in America than anywhere else. Where else can so many people from poor/bad backgrounds become professional athletes making millions, or actors, doctors, lawyers, it requires hard work but it can be done without help! Anyone read “Gifted Hands” it’s about a black man becoming a very great doctor through hard work. My aunt went through college in Colorado working three jobs. I mention the state of Colorado because my aunt lived in New York and she had no car or money for a plane ticket, so my grandparents drove her out of New York and she biked the rest of the way! A young woman bicycling to Colorado from Pennsylvania or New Jersey, sleeping in graveyards at night when the weather permitted and she somehow survived the trek. Now what you people are so upset about is that the difficulty of each person’s life is different and you find that unfair, which just shows that you are either envious or jealous or both. It is not somebody’s problem that they had an easier time than somebody else. Do not criminalize them for it! Just as you criminalize people who make too much money. Isn’t the goal of a company and person to make as much as possible? But once they cross a certain gross revenue they become “evil”. This behavior is irrational and shows how you don’t want people to succeed, to live their life, but that they must never get ahead of you- and who is the selfish one? Who wishes to hold people back? Who demonizes people or companies because they make a million dollars, it is so arbitrary it is pathetic. Tell me, when do they become evil? Is it at $250,000? Is that when you curse their name and say they oppress their employees and are corrupt.

Let’s take a look at some other U.S government run programs. Medicaid and Medicare are broken and their costs have risen more than what was expected. Amtrak, which is heavily subsidized by the government is broken as well and broke, and finally the post office which is 6 billion dollars in debt. And what does the great Obama say about those worrying about a government health care takeover? Look at UPS and FedEx, they’re doing fine against the USPS, that the USPS is the one in trouble. What?! Did anybody get that? Obama is saying that the government health care system could turn out to be like the USPS, but it would be trillions of dollars in debt and we would spend trillions more trying to fix it because government is not the answer. It is the problem. All these programs that are not working properly and are going bankrupt and we want to establish a bigger program? The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

The function of a government is to protect the rights of the people, by stopping those who would or have used force against people. It is not the job of the government to provide a home, car, job, health care, food, etc to people, that is not a person’s right or the function of government. The opposite suggests that some people can be forced to provide a service for others, which is in itself breaking the rights of people making the action illegal. Socialism may not be a bad word in Europe but I would never trust a European to guide the world, or look to for advice ( there are a few exceptions, but they are in the vast minority). We do know what a communist and what a socialist is, but the actions of people like you try to hide it so it can be filtered in and we won’t realize until it is too late the dagger sticking in our back.

America was founded on individualism and selfishness for people to achieve, through hard work their goals, to live their own life. It is only the your messed up sense that in order to succeed, someone must be stepped on. That is what is going on in Europe, except instead of the poor being stepped on by the nobility or rich as it was back in the day, it is the opposite. Europeans feel entitled to service without paying for it or for others paying for it- that is more selfish than letting people live their own lives, succeeding or failing at their own hands.

There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism- by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. Both violate the rights of humans by ignoring the right to property. The right to property is the right of use and disposal.

Just as man can’t exist without his body, so no rights can exist without the right to translate one’s rights into reality- to think, to work, and to keep the results- which means: the right of property. The modern mystics of muscle who offer you the fraudulent alternative of “human rights” versus “property rights”, as if one could exist without the other, are making a last, grotesque attempt to revive the doctrine of soul versus body. Only a ghost can exist without material property; only a slave can work with no right to the product of their effort. The doctrine that “human rights” are superior to “property rights” simply means that some human beings have the right to make property out of others; since the competent have nothing to gain from the incompetent, it means the right of the incompetent to own their betters and to use them as productive cattle. Whoever regards this as human and right, has no right to the title of “human”. The source of property rights is the law of causality. All property and all forms of wealth are produced by man’s mind and labor. As you cannot have effects without causes, so you cannot have wealth without its source: without intelligence. You cannot force intelligence to work: those who’re able to think, will not work under compulsion; those who will, won’t produce much more than the price of the whip needed to keep them enslaved. You cannot obtain the products of a mind except on the owner’s terms, by trade and by volitional consent. Any other policy of people towards people’s property is the policy of criminals, no matter what their numbers. Criminals are savages who play it short-range and starve when their prey runs out- just as you’re starving today, you who believed that crime could be “practical” if your government decreed that robbery was legal and resistance to robbery illegal. – Ayn Rand.

What really sucks is that even though the U.S is going downhill, there is no other country as great as the U.S. Let me add that the only reason why Europe still has some form have power is because of U.S liberals/democrats; they want to emulate and feel that Europe is “hip”. In reality, Europe has no power; ever since WWII Europe has lost all of its former glory. Now most Europeans are spoiled who feel they are entitled to everything and they must not do any hard work. This is the place where if anyone gets fired they start marching in the streets destroying property. This is the place where they hate on America because they know we are better deep down, yet if they ever got in trouble militarily they would feel entitled that America should come and save them. If someone like Hitler started a war on Europe, it would be way easier than the beginning of WWII, Europeans would give up in a matter of seconds, saying that something the West did to the country was the reason for their behavior, most blame would go to America as a new avenue to hate on the U.S. Getting back to it, so Europe would feel that the U.S. must help them because they are entitled to it, which if it was my way I would let you rot, but we would help because we are better than you who won’t lift a finger nowadays. Afterwards you may cheer us, for the third time, but eventually your hatred for us will rise and Europeans will shout that we committed war crimes and protest that our people should be held accountable, that the U.S should pay for the restoration of Europe and should pay the aggressor money as well because it was our fault for starting the war. But it is still not yet done, feeling that you guys have done something so wonderful in fighting the good fight, you would demand of your government that they pass a bill forcing all companies to give their employees 6 months of paid vacation because you work so hard, especially during the war and you feel entitled. Because, how many is it 2 months or one month is not enough. Then after twenty years you will be back in full swing hating on America, and becoming more lazier till there is nobody to pay for your socialist programs and you full into utter chaos, hopefully showing the world, yet again that communism/socialism does not work.

What we stand for is to respect each person’s right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. There is no right to a guarantee of some product or service, only the right to pursue it and if you accomplish your goal to keep your reward. We don’t support slavery, unlike you guys. We respect humanity.