The Masters

**Andromeda** · 05-07-2006, 07:15 PM

Then when you are telling your possible members how to enter, do not say simply to challenge one of your members to a RPB. Give them the option of doing a RP or RPB. Not everyone RPBs, I do not, so however much reliance you place on RPBs as your scale for worthiness, if you are going to be a general Roleplaying Club you will need to allow for either and you cannot force people to RPB if they only want to RP. Because forcing them or saying that need to do RPBs to advance means you are saying RPB is more important and thus placing yourself in a RPB status rather than a General one. In which case you are becoming more like the Phoenix Knights. Differences in story would remain the only difference you have, I would prefer that not to be the case, since everything else you have to idential to the Phoenix Knights setup, and they were here first on TFF regardless of your history on other forums.

**Bryan 2.0** · 05-07-2006, 08:37 PM

Pardon the intrusion but if you wish to RPB, I have a proposal for you. No deathmatch and no club vs. club (though members from clubs will be participating).

It will be Anarchy and I vs. two of you. You may choose who will fight, if you wish to fight at all.

**Andromeda** · 05-07-2006, 10:39 PM

I figured I would give some more clarification to what I am asking. Since I did not go into everything. Back when Anomaly asked to make the club, I was hestiant, since it looked exactly like Phoenix Knights. It really does, the set up is the same and the way you go about things is the same, only real difference is names and background. But Anomaly said in the post that it was going to RP and RPB, I still have the registration post, so with that I approved the club, since it was going to be different in that it was going to encompass both roleplaying aspects we have at TFF.

However, when the method for entry keep being posted as battling a member, I became rather confused. Since RPB was only half of what was stated. I was trying to figure out why RP was being excluded from the entry. And Anomaly's reason never satisified me, I just it pass to see if something would become of it. And as I read the posts to members wanting to join, I keep seeing them saying RPB to enter.

I find this a contradiction of the statement that was in the registration, since RP and RPB was what was said. It seemed that you were going to be handling both equally. And having seen that RPB is being heavily emphasized everywhere here, I need clarification.

That was where my post came in from yesterday. I need to know what the club is, are you General Roleplaying or you are RPBing? Because with a RP on the side pratically and RPB in the front, it does not seem like you are meeting the General Roleplaying stance that was orignally stated. So I need to know where you play to go with the club, are you going to focus only on RPB and no deal with RP? Are you going to deal with both equally? Are you going to RPB with RP only be in an internal thing. I need to know where the club falls into the Roleplaying, since as it stands your are in conflict with your mission statement you gave me in the registeration post.

**Deicide** · 05-08-2006, 12:48 AM

It was brought to my attention that an editation to our joining rules has been made to try and meet this particular, and well made, point but that you may not yet have been made aware of since, for whatever reason, it hasent been directly refered to by anyone else here.

How Does One Join?

Requests will be answered here, but if you are not already a member of The Masters (and believe me, we will know if you are) you will have to meet certain criteria.
1.) If you are a past champion of a TFF sponsored tournament you are welcome to apply.
2.) Failing this, you may battle a Masters member in a Masters organized fight to determine if you are elidgable for entry. It will be a requirement as of May 7 2006 that all applicants supply a sample of an 'rp' post in their INITIAL request to join The Masters.
3.) On certain, rare, occasions offer of membership will be presented to those who have demonstrated remarkable skill in battle outside of an official setting.

That really should be a seperate rule in my opinion but, at any rate, I beleive Anomaly will be posting sometime later this eve (ok, morning if you want to get technical) so he aught to be able to clear anything up then if needs be.

:..2-2-7..:

**Godean** · 05-08-2006, 04:44 AM

With all do respect, how we go about recruiting our members our buisness and is up to us, more specificaly, up to the Grand Master. What you call 'RPB' is a required skill in The Masters. However, Story RP on the other - while we do like to see members capable of it, and tend to frown upon the lack of the skill - is not a required skill. If we see that you can RPB, then we know that you know the basics of how to RP.

On the same note, we believe that a RPB must include a story in it. It is a story between two people, in a combative form. If someone can RPB properly, than they can Story RP.

I personally am not very strong in Story RP, yet I hold the leadership over one of our Divisions, and am the highest ranking Master under GodHand. I gained these ranks partially through my RPB Skill.

**Anomaly** · 05-08-2006, 05:51 AM

Basically, as Godean has said, for EVALUATION PURPOSES, RPB is simpler.

Now I've given the matter some contemplation and I believe I could set up a system in which a person could create a Story RP and it could be run on an experimental basis. however, that would be a much more complex set of criteria.

As things have stood I thought to use RP and more advbanced RPB as a basis for ADVANCEMENT in rank within the Masters and a very simple showing of skills at the entry level. Thats why only a simple RPB, no necessity to win and the loser will not necissarily have to 'go away'...just a simple demonstration. This is why I added in a sample of story RPing after your initial post.

But Andromeda, if you are confused or perplexed you only need ask me to clarfy matters in private. As it stands it seems your making an aweful clutter in this thread and only restating what you've said previously. If you need further clarification of matters, my PM box is not full.

But having said that, how are we like the Phoenix Knights? We have a stress on RPing, to be sure, and ALL asspects there of, though story RP is of course going to be slow to START. But we are not so competative as to require someone WIN an RPB in order to enter, nor so heartless as to cast aside a previous member should they meet defeat. Where is the similarity? I'm not seeing it.

But, if you do not like the amendments we have made thus far to be more open to those that wish to seek us through a RP route, then clarfiy precisely what it is you would like to see. As I siad, I believe if it isn't enough I may have something in mind that can be instituted, but I'd rather save Story RP for ranking purposes for the time being until our ranks have filled out a little more.

But before I'm entirely off the subject of the necessity of the use of private messaging, ia Cthulhu! Ia-R'lyeh!

While Masters as a breed are always eager to do battle, it would seem that we've outlined this thread to be utilized as either commisary for Masters members or sign up thread for those who wish to join. As it is, your challenge would be viewed as a request by yourself and Anarchy for admission into the clan given where that challenge was made. In future, please address all such challenges privately. If there is no specific target for your challenge, then feel free to send me a private message and I shall relay your message to the group as a whole.

But if anyone from my club wishes to fight you, I will not stand in their way.

**Prodigal Madness** · 05-08-2006, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Anomaly

While Masters as a breed are always eager to do battle, it would seem that we've outlined this thread to be utilized as either commisary for Masters members or sign up thread for those who wish to join. As it is, your challenge would be viewed as a request by yourself and Anarchy for admission into the clan given where that challenge was made. In future, please address all such challenges privately. If there is no specific target for your challenge, then feel free to send me a private message and I shall relay your message to the group as a whole.

But if anyone from my club wishes to fight you, I will not stand in their way.

I desire to, but as they're from the Brotherhood, I think at least something should be up for grabs for the winners...

Also, from ALL of the forums I've been on, I've yet to see the Mods have control over the clubs. At most, they've been there to simply be just that, mods. After all, RPB club sounds that's like all we do- which isn't, so kinda hard to say that's what we must be to have an RPB as part of the intro. We simply wish that the members joining have some skill in that area. It certainly cuts down on the noobs and those who only ask to join because our club is "cool".

Anyway, just mentioning as I was surprized the admins/entire forum has no say in the club section- just the mods.

**Anomaly** · 05-08-2006, 07:20 PM

I understand where Andromeda is coming from, for the most part, as a degree of professionalism needs to be maintained. Chaos, while fun, isn't tidy. But I'd rather work with Andromeda then have what appears as little more than arguement going back and forth in the club thread.

As to Cthulhu and Anarchy, if you wish to meet their challenge Mage, by all means do. I believe I will leave the second position of this little conflict in the hands of the MMD. No need for prizes...its all in good fun. After all, reputation is what is set on the line in such conflicts as these.

**LocoColt04** · 05-08-2006, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Tainted Mage

Anyway, just mentioning as I was surprized the admins/entire forum has no say in the club section- just the mods.

Just to specify, it's not that we have no say -- I'd just rather let them do their jobs without any of us other supermods or administrators having to come in and do it for them. When they're not around, sure, I'll take care of any issues which may arise, but otherwise I allow them to run their section the way they wish to do so... Andromeda has been running this specific area of the forum since late 2002.

Yours,
That Ambassador Guy

**Prodigal Madness** · 05-09-2006, 02:49 PM

Anyone else up to help me beat down Cthulhu and Anarchy?

**Shelus** · 05-09-2006, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Tainted Mage

Anyone else up to help me beat down Cthulhu and Anarchy?

Although I told Godean that I would have to decline due to matters of a certain Battler Bio of mine... I suppose I can just as easily change my mind. I will assist you mage in the battle of these two. However Cthulhu and Anarchy, keep in mind that I'am at the moment adding some touches to Shelus and Side. So don't get frustrated if you see something come out of me that you do not recognize. Remember...as Anomaly hath spoken ''...all in good fun...''

By the Way Godean. I had attempted to make my last post in our battle tonight, but as luck would have it... I had been kept busy all day since my arrival home from work. Tomorrow I SHALL... make my last post... I hope.

**Anomaly** · 05-09-2006, 08:03 PM

Well I look forward to judging that battle. I've read over it some already and I've liked what I've seen.

As to the battle, I will inform the other two. Godean brought up an interesting point in an earlier PM before you accepted Shane, about posting order and what not. I'll see if I can get something set up in time for the ending of your and Godean's battle.

**Deicide** · 05-12-2006, 01:44 AM

And it has begun, all things considered this should be quite interesting...

:..2-2-7..:

**Nekoness** · 05-12-2006, 03:16 AM

Yes, very interesting.

**Godean** · 05-12-2006, 04:41 AM

It will be intresting yes... Though I have every confidence in Shelus and Mage. I have met both of them upon the battle field. They are worthy opponents. They shall not fall with out one hell of a fight.

Also, I would like to point out something. In the intro thread, Lord Anomaly states that God Modding is against the rules. However, I believe it neccisary to point out that controlling your teammates character is God Modding as well.

**Bryan 2.0** · 05-12-2006, 12:37 PM

Again, pardon the intrusion. My first post in the RPB will be a bit delayed as I am going to be in New Orleans this weekend. I'm not sure if Anarchy will post before me or not, if he does, that would be great. Once I get back, I'll be posting in full force.

**Shelus** · 05-12-2006, 02:27 PM

Please, by all means... take you time. I would not you to rush this.

As for my intro in it... I realized at work that there might be something in it that seems like a weapon swap. That would be me forgetting to say something like... 'his other weapon of choice' It made me feel that I completely replaced Kaito with Poetic.

It will be canged very soon.

**LocoColt04** · 05-12-2006, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Godean

However, I believe it neccisary to point out that controlling your teammates character is God Modding as well.

This is a good thing to specify. In team battles, I usually leave such things up to the writers to decide. Sometimes it can be highly difficult to manage a plan without speaking with your partner (and sometimes even your opponents) regularly outside of battle about the way things should flow. As such, when teams feel more comfortable being able to control their teammate's character in minor ways, I usually allow it.

Since you have set the stipulation and decided that you do not wish to verse your battle in such a manner, I shall enforce that rule as I watch over the thread. I will likely let minor incidences (those which really don't affect anything) pass as it is bound to happen, but anything major will likely result in me (or Anomaly) stepping in to ask that the poster re-write the post to remove such godmodding.

I look forward to reading this fight as it progresses, and best of luck to both sides.

Yours,
That Ambassador Guy

**Godean** · 05-12-2006, 08:00 PM

Thank you for your support. I agree that anything which does net effect the battle, dealing with your teammate should slide.

**Anomaly** · 05-13-2006, 02:44 AM

After all, it is all in fun. No need for anything overtly iron clad.

I hope you have fun in Orleans Cthulhu, though I'm not entirely sure what the state of affairs IS there anymore. Funny but I haven't actually seen Anarchy around all that much. *shrug*

Well, anyways, I feel I should take the time to announce that Shane has succesfully won his challenge against Godean and has thus earned an advancement in rank. We look forward to seeing more out of Shane as future battles and RP progress. (I believe my dear Kassandra and Sierra may be awaiting your next move in the RP...if you have the time ot make it.)

There may be another promotion in the near future for another party...but we shall see.

**Nekoness** · 05-13-2006, 04:05 AM

Grats Shane

You know Anomaly..you misspelled my name..but I like it..
Maybe I should change it to Sierra?

It sounds right somehow..

**Shelus** · 05-13-2006, 02:10 PM

Thank you for the advancement. I shall be making a reply to the story as of sometime mid-tomorrow. And Serra... I like your other name better. >_>

**Lucid** · 05-13-2006, 04:41 PM

I have also made a new post in the RP which sorta puts my character in the path of Shane's character. I hope it's alright.

**Anomaly** · 05-13-2006, 08:36 PM

I think its a nice way to tie things together. I think we've had enough introduction and introspection for the time being...its time for a little action.

sorry Serra

Sierra is just a familiar name to me and I find myself typing it everytime I mean to type 'Serra'. Sierra is/was the name of a game development company that I used to have a lot of software from when I was younger, so the word 'sierra' just kind of stuck with me.

**Nekoness** · 05-13-2006, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Anomaly

I think its a nice way to tie things together. I think we've had enough introduction and introspection for the time being...its time for a little action.

sorry Serra

Sierra is just a familiar name to me and I find myself typing it everytime I mean to type 'Serra'. Sierra is/was the name of a game development company that I used to have a lot of software from when I was younger, so the word 'sierra' just kind of stuck with me.

HAHAHA!

Well I'll forgive you..for a cookie.

**Anomaly** · 05-14-2006, 08:44 PM

*gives you cricket and nightcrawler chunk cookie*

Well Monday should be here shortly. Though Anarchy hasn't said anything, Cthulhu ought to have some fire for our warriors.

Oh, brief announcement, a new Godhand member has been selected to replace one that was not performing their duties. More on that later.

**Prodigal Madness** · 05-14-2006, 09:30 PM

I wasn't paying much attention to Shane's challenge as to what goes on, and tired enough to just ask rather than look.

May I simply post my challenge on here against Shane for TM rank?

**Anomaly** · 05-14-2006, 09:36 PM

*shrug* if he accepts. He's got a lot on his plate though...maybe you should challenge someone else?

**Deicide** · 05-15-2006, 12:59 AM

Sierra is used in the names of several Mountain ranges (and here I thought it was just one, o well). Its also the name of a computer game development group famous for being the brains behind the Kings Quest series. Or it used to be anyway, I think they either went out of buisness or got bought out a while ago. A few other things share the name too, interesting really, and not that surprising it sounded familiar..

:..2-2-7..:

**Nekoness** · 05-15-2006, 01:21 AM

Wow tnx Anomaly, I'll keep them for later.

What really surprises me that Anarchy said nothing at all, atleast here. Sometimes I wonder if he's in or not. Till now only Shane posted in the thread. Well, we'll see.

And I think I know who'll be the new Godhand memeber.

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