Intellectual Threads.....slipping???

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I agree with Mr. For S-Mod on this one, wholeheartedly. They don't give a different perspective. They talk crap, don't argue it properly, and refuse to listen to reason.

I hear you. I mean there are a lot of close-minded stereotypes presented in some discussions, but I think that's more views we as individuals hold from our experiences. But that's not from the 'fresh young minds' half the time, that's from the people who have been around long enough to have the opinion they hold. There's nothing I hate more than someone with an aura of superiority, and that's what I see in some. Not just in the ID threads themselves, but their everyday act. I feel I need to remind everyone that humanity as a whole knows a good deal less than many think, so the chances of any one person being right about everything are slim to jack-squat.

Unconditioned minds are just fine. However, in that state, their grasp of facts is somewhat lacking. Their ability to take hold of greater moral concepts and such is also limited.

And they may also have not yet swallowed all the crap they force down your throats in school. I mean seriously, don't you ever wonder at the validity when more than half of what they teach is theory only? I know I sure as hell wasn't satisfied with what was being taught, especially when some of the books were from half a century ago and contained inaccurate information by the barrel load.

They can provide a fresh perspective if they haven't had their mind conditioned and I've seen plenty of people many would consider sub-par in terms of intellect who are perfectly capable of making moral decisions (some are better at it through not really caring how people see their actions e.g. It might not be cool to help that one geek being picked on by the cool kids) and can actually pick up specific concepts quite easily, just on another scale. They might also see the smaller scope that the more 'intellectual' people miss over the deeper questions.

The mess that came of the numerous threads on religion was another reason I lost faith. The inability of people here to learn to live with someone else's opinion, to agree to disagree without a giant landslide of masked personal jibes and so on is huge.

I truly am sorry to hear that. But I lost my faith in some people's opinions in other threads and I still post in many. I've even gotten to the point where one or two threads I just gave up due to people repeating the exact same points over and over again despite them being dismissed. I just stop caring about the single threads in question.

I liked to post on here, in this bit, a few years ago. I don't see the point anymore, really. I'm on a forum with adult minds also, and they'll have a rational debate with you, of a calibre that you can't find here. I don't know if it was once here or not, because when I used to post my brain wasn't half as up on the game as it is now. I prefer just to post short things now.

Maybe find a MENSA forum or something then? I mean the only place I've been where the discussion was of that high a calibur compared to TFF was the ID of a forum for those with Asperger's Syndrome, and some of them are bloody geniuses.

The last time I made a thread in here was last year. It was an attempt to open a discussion about the political behaviour of Russia as a nation and a government. It received no replies.

I can't vouch for everyone, but I'll apologise for my lack of a response. I've always hated politics and whenever I try to write a post about it, it usually becomes a rant a couple lines in. I abstained for everyone's benefit.

Still, Koda, take it on - we'll certainly help if the discussion doesn't become drugdery.

Aye, I shall make the effort to post in a few ID threads.

I don't mean to offend younger people, Aeris, not at all. You're not stupid, and neither are many other young people; but like you said, this is a Final Fantasy forum, which attracts a certain kind of teenager. There are always exceptions to the rule, granted; but most of the time on TFF, the standard of 'debate' and, more importantly, conversation just doesn't compare to other places on the net.

Maybe it is just the gaming clientele; who knows. But ID needs to be rejuvinated somehow.

Notice the bit I bolded. Most players of RPGs in any form are stereotypically thought to be the smarter types. I mean it's not like this is a forum based on twitch games or anything. Not only is Aeris not stupid, she's actually intelligent enough to not only hold her own, but show some of you up.

It's not isolated to the younger ones. No, we get smart ass-y replies and one liners from some people a bit older. If you look at people like her or Martin, you'll notice they seem to raise the bar fairly highly.

No, ignorance is just that....ignorance. And if it isn't corrected, and they aren't taught differently, then they continue to be ignorant.

Ignorance can be bliss. If you're unaware that something bad will happen than you're a lot happier than if you knew it was going to happen, right?
Even the intelligent can be ignorant about some things, and it brings them no pleasure to have such things brought up at times.