The Old Skool Cult of Kefka, bitches!

Yeah it is the new game in the Paper Mario series, but it's actually not an RPG at all. It's a full fledged platformer basically (has a few rpg elements i guess, basically mushrooms give you hearts instead of making you bigger like the old titles among other things), nothing at all like the first two paper mario games though. Well the look is exactly the same as them, but the gameplay is significantly different. You can switch players too, kinda sounds like Super Mario Bros 2 doesnt it? I actually have never played the two original paper marios but I'm quite excited about this one. I could just never get into the first two, because I didn't like how they dubbed the original paper mario on the nintendo 64 as a sequel to super mario rpg. They both are rpgs for sure, but they weren't at all alike, and super mario rpg was developed by square and the paper mario games certainly wasn't. I'm not doubting they are good games though, I will probably get the original on my VC when i get my Wii, and hopefully the second one for the gamecube if i can still find it around.

Haha that's hilarious about Hobbes, too bad you don't make more GIFs of him. :P

Ah oblivion..i really need to get that soon. Knights of the Nine is out here too i believe, let the expansions begin!

Tried to get back into playing CS, but man after playing DoD it seems way too hard. I was getting my ass kicked, I'd rather just stick to playing DoD. I can get high, play that game, maybe get drunk a little, and still do fine. CS i'd get my ass handed to me on a stick either way.

CP:
DoD: Source
Grandia

Oh damn, you just crushed my hope and dreams about the next Paper Mario. Because to be honest I hate Mario Platformers....

Hey don't look at me like that, I'm not Gif making material just yet, Scorpian calm down.

Anyway I wrote and article a lot of you might find interesting, it's a review of Zelda: Twilight Princess for the Wii, enjoy.

@GLC, I've been wanting to play Oblivion, but I havn't got a 360 and my computer is a piece of shit. Or at least it's graphics card is and since it's a Laptop I can't replace it :(

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Zelda: Twilight Princess
Wii Sports, Havn't broken my T.V. yet

'Hey don't look at me like that, I'm not Gif making material just yet, Scorpian calm down.' Lol I won't look at ya, no worries cause i'm not either. the best I was EVER able to do was edit those..SNK CLah cards in Imageready. So please by no means am I presuring you..or am i? XD

That's a pretty..light description of the an hero that hobbes is there DD. But i suppose it really shouldn't take anymore effort to talk about than you are loathe to do ( you always forget to mention my SMODness or ZRO's Modness at SU tho.bad Aussie lol )

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Would you believe jack nothing atm?

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ZOMG I HAS POST!

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Nope, never done a bit of GIF work in my life. ^^

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ZOMG MITHRA PR0N!....hentai....

FFXI, actually <.<;;;

Oh Zro, the memories you bring back. *still waiting for one with me* >.>

And yes, I made those silly RPGMaker things. Dawezy, indeed, I was just lazy as hell with the names. XD

Boo Oblivion! I say it again. :P

Nearing the end of les Tactiques; just the deep dungeon to go. Gotta love that place. I'm already having ideas for next time though. I'm thinking of using the people I rarely use (that aren't my own characters) such as the Worker 8 (the robot), Reis (the dragoneer), the Divine Knight (whatever her name is, Milodoul or something) and maybe Cloud? Probably not Cloud, I don't like him in that game. His moves take way too long.

In case anyone didn't know...or rather, seeing as how I don't think anyone does, to everyone: I'll be away starting Saturday and won't be back until the following Sunday. I'm going down to Tennessee to see Ellie, so the last thing I want to do is talk to you clowns. :p And just incase I forget to post this later, I'm doing so now. Woot.

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Tactics

Wow great GIFs all around here.

Haha yeah i know u like that Oblivion more :P Maybe i should just get them both for the PC to compare.

Yeah when i played thru tactics i leveled up everyone in my entire party to the highest level so i got a chance to play with all those characters even if i didn't really want to. Meliadoul was really not that bad, but i would choose Orlandu and Agrias over her, she does have all the break abilities though i think doesn't she? (armor break, mental break, etc), those can be useful. Worker 8 i often teamed up soley with Orlandu :LOL:. They made for quite the strange duo. Reis i thought was actually a really intesting character. I even got the heaven and hell knights to maxed out levels though. And Cloud too, i basically used Cloud as a normal fighter and changed his class to Knight. So i didn't have him use any of the limit breaks, but he was sweet none the less. With him, Orlandu, and Ramza i could never be defeated.

So i'm getting further into Grandia..man i have to say i love this game. Enjoying much more than FF XII even, there's just such a charm about it. The music is great, the characters and their voice acting, sprite based graphics are nice though there this is noticable slowdown in my parts. The storyline is engaging, but most of all i love its battle system and character development.

Have fun in ol' Tennesee Jin.

Damn, with all the great things you dudes keep saying about Final Fantasy Tactics, I really want to play it now, any ideas on a good way to get it?

As for what I'm doing I'm still Zelda, I thought is was nearly at the end. I finished the 4th temple and I thought there were 5, turns out there's 7.

I havn't gotten to play Oblivion yet either, I only watched a freind playing it for about 10 minutes and yes the graphics were posibly the best I've seen. But there is this freind of mine who is putting me off the game because he won't stop talking about it and it's getting quite irritating. So maybe I'll just wait for Elder Scrolls 5. Hmm, I wonder what the next generation consoles will look like, thinking ahead pretty early arn't I.

Several Ideas on how to get it actually. It really depends on what you want. Do you want an .iso to run it off your comp? Try Deadfrog or Hogfire, or any number of p2p sharing progs. I would recommend using ePSXe emulator for this. ( I been using it for years now ) If you want the actual CD that might pose a bit more of a problem. Outside of the occasional pawn shop, gaming store. PSX games are hard to come by. You might check out Amazon or maybe eBay for that, of course you'd need a memory card as well. Good luck there.

And don't let Zro fool you he has SOOO many more in the epic tales to share, he just needs to get off his lazy bisho ass and share them lol ( DD too, but you can always just cruise his site for them as well )

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Nada

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Yeah those are certainly good ideas for getting FF Tactics as stated above. You definitely should play the game, it's great.

In the world of old school gaming, I would like to bring two games to the table, Ocarina of Time 2D, and Metroid Prime 2D. Two old school takes on modern games. What do people think about these games, would you play them and like them over the newer versions?

For the Zelda it's really hard to say. I love both Ocarina of Time and Link to the Past, i'm not sure which I like more, but needless to say i'd love the 2D remake. Though i'm not sure if i would like it more than the original. I haven't played Metroid Prime but I definitely like the side scrolling Metroid games especially Super Metroid so If it's anything like that I'm in.

Wow, great ideas GLC, I'll definately play OoT 2d, unless someone can stop me and I doubt it, and from the screens it looks like it'll be Snes goodness, and those Zelda's were great as well. As for Metroid Prime, it looks pretty good too, but you finish Zelda first you hear. Go for it GLC.

Still having trouble finding FFT, I've tried Limwire and it comes up with hundreds of FFTA but no FFT and on Deadfrog I only found it's soundtrack, but I was just looking on the site, I'll have a better look later for where you download the P2P.

CP:
Zelda: TP
hope to play FFT

Oh no i didnt make those if thats what you think, they are fanmade projects. Both have playable demos too..i think Metroid's is at it's site but the zelda one doesn't have an official demo of the snes version though he does using the gb version. You can find a real early demo of the snes version but not at the site i'd have to find the link. Probably going to be a long long time before we see finished products in those if we ever do.

I would try torrentspy or somethin for FF Tactics..i know they would have it. *cough*cough*

I think that I would like to play a 2D version of both games. I like the feeling of 2D games. I have never been a big fan of bad camera angles, rotating cameras, and the 3D game feel. I love both of the original games but would really like to play them with an old school feel. I think that 2D games have a special nostalgic feel about them also which just makes me happy to play them.

One such example of a great nostalgic feeling game would be altered beast which i just got in the Sega Genesis collection. That game is great! I love that your shirt rips off when you power up! Now that is real gaming! I also really enjoy that you can be a green werewolf. I think that more games need to go back to that kind of gaming.

I totally agree. When i think of some of my best snes gaming experiences i think of Super Metroid and Link to the Past, so if they could keep that same quality, they'd be great. I too am a fan of Altered Beast, i'm hoping to get it when i get my Wii. It's one of those classic arcade style games. I was wondering what happened to the remake for the PS2. When i checked IGN, i guess it was just never released stateside though they do have a lot of info on it here.

Hmm...well, I'm gonna play Critic here, and comment on the fact that the Metroid Prime 2D looks rather...eh...idk...can't call it 8-bit, but it's certainly kinda sub-par for 16-bit. >_<;

They should've used the pallete from Super Metroid (it's easily accessible, trust me, I've got sprite sheets out the ass from it ~.~) and remade Metroid Prime using that. I commend them for attempting to just create new ones, but it looks kinda...bleh. Good idea tho, mind you.

The Link to the Past style Ocarina of Time has some merits to it tho, since it looks like they're mostly using the LttP selection for sprites, and only creating what they have to.

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FFXI
FFX (yes, I finally picked it back up...and I ****in hate Seymour ~.~)

Yeah i agree, i don't know WHY they didn't use super metroid? I was expecting it to look like super metroid but was dissapointed to see it resembles the newer gba games more. I think Ocarina of Time 2D is dead on though. The creator actually made a program, "Zelda Creator" to be able to make your own game using the link to the past engine. I just wonder when the final will finally be if it even happens.

Heh, I wonder what Brask Spira would say now, seeing us talk about making newer games old skool.

Some other games I would really like to see remade include, Majora's Mask, FF7, and some D&D titles like Icewind Dale.

There is is mate of mine who I constantly argue with about why older games are just as good as newer games. But you keep on coming back with remarkably creative and unbeatable reason, but it's old. That is the only reason he's ever given and I don't understand his reasoning because a game being old dosn't make it have any less gameplay or make it any less fun then when it was created in the first place. It just seem that some people are unable to appreciate what masterpieces older games were when they are just seeing all the eye candy from the X-box360 and PS3. It seems to make people think the older games are sub par in comparison. If he was to join this forum I think he would be the next Braska Spira, although he hate Final Fantasy as well so he would be Braska Spira x 4.

Back to the topic of the Zelda remake I wonder how some of them temples are going to be recreated, like the Water Temple with it's rising and lowering water level or maybe it would be better if they made them completely different anyway, to allow completely new game play.

Those 2D Ocarina of Time screen shots made me smile and possibly ejaculate. I may just have to look into that.

My Tactics file is abandoned because I got bored and decided to make a new file. I also threw out the idea of using less used people just because. I first started with trying a 5 Mediator party, but then decided that I didn't want to go through that hassle just yet. That'll be a challange when I get around to it. So now I've decided to use classes that I rarely use. I've decided on an Oracle (which I just love for some reason), keeping Ramza as a Squire perhaps, a Time Mage which I may turn into a Calculator and some fighters yet to be deteremined. It should be interesting. Also, I'm toying with the idea of "purifying" the classes. That is, only using reaction and auto abilities that come from either their primary or secondary classes. So no Knights with 2-swords, which I find to be ridiculously cheap as it is.

Anyways, this is my last post before I depart to a place where there isn't 2 feet of snow on the ground. Cheers mates, enjoy my absence. ;)

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Tactics
COD2 (PC)

yeah braska spira would summon his strongest aeon on us or cry like a little girl if he heard about our discussions.

@Setzer, Yeah it'll be certainly interesting to see how the temples are created i agree. Things like the water temple could be done though it will interesting to see how he keeps faithful to the original. One thing that this project has going is an amazing amount of authenticity when it comes not only to the look of the game, but the gameplay as well. I agree that people are getting spoiled by the eye candy though.

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Those 2D Ocarina of Time screen shots made me smile and possibly ejaculate. I may just have to look into that.

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@Jinjatsu, :LOL: same here same here. In addition that site, these two forum topics have a lot of info and developments on the game as well as extra screenshots comparing the original and 2D versions

Old Thread (closed because of spam) A lot of people were doubting he would continue the project, the creator comes in towards the end
New Thread This is the thread he created after the previous was one was closed. Starts off showing some nice screenshot comparisions and also tells about the program he uses among many things. It also shows that he is going to be making a Master Quest version of the game as well as Majora's Mask! WOW.

I just hope he actually finishes the project, like so many other related projects, most often times are abandoned because of the workload and/or legal issuse. I was able to find a few earlier playable demos of the LTP style, he has two links on those forums to the EARLY demos that just show the basic gameplay but none seem to work right now. Also, he has sent further along demos to people on those forums to play thorough and test. If only we had access to these demos!! =-[

And an interesting article that goes in with the general topic of remaking old games with new graphics or new games with 2D Graphics check THIS out.

I think Nintendo and other companies could take a nod from Valve who actually is SUPPORTING codename:gordon, an old school take on Half Life in Metal Slug style and having it available via download through Steam. I've heard that the Wii's Virtual Console will have new independently developed games. Just think if you could be downloading and playing Ocarina of Time 2D and playing it with the classic controller! Wow i'm about to soil myself

I think after reading that the leader of this Metroid Prime 2D project is only 15, i have to give him some sort of credit!! :eek: And now that i look at the newer screenshots, the final product IS resembling Super Metroid A LOT. That demo must have been a very early version.

I had an idea for the cult. I want feedback.
ScorpianJED (10:56:17 PM): time for a beat down *smacks*
ZRO4825 (10:56:36 PM): *dodge*
ScorpianJED (10:56:50 PM): *you wish dropkicks*
ZRO4825 (10:57:23 PM): *completely avoids by staying the **** out of the ring* ^^
ScorpianJED (10:57:46 PM): what ring? *clocks with OSCoK US Title belt*
ScorpianJED (10:58:00 PM): *gets brilliant idea*
ZRO4825 (10:58:06 PM): *erases the belt* ^_^
ScorpianJED (10:58:23 PM): duuuuude no roll with me here
ZRO4825 (10:58:27 PM): XD
ScorpianJED (10:58:41 PM): banners for every OSCoK member
ScorpianJED (10:58:49 PM): but banners as in Title Belts
ZRO4825 (10:58:53 PM): lol
ScorpianJED (10:59:08 PM): let's see here what i can think up based on my knowledge
ZRO4825 (10:59:17 PM): oh boy
ScorpianJED (11:02:03 PM): Dawezy - World, ME - US, You - Television ( there was such a thing in WCW ), Loco - OSCoK Champion, Jin - Intercontinetal, GLC - Cruiserweight, Psiko - Hardcore, Juice - Women's...
ScorpianJED (11:02:31 PM): We got any Euro's?
ScorpianJED (11:03:34 PM): well?
ZRO4825 (11:03:41 PM): idk
ScorpianJED (11:03:49 PM): no i mean the idea?
ZRO4825 (11:03:55 PM): it's interesing
ZRO4825 (11:03:57 PM): interesting*
ScorpianJED (11:04:31 PM): I think it would be sweet, I can see it in my head now lolz
ZRO4825 (11:04:38 PM): lol
ZRO4825 (11:04:49 PM): I see my mithra getting beat up atm ;;
ScorpianJED (11:05:10 PM): we'd have to find an Geriatric Champion Belt for ark....
ScorpianJED (11:05:48 PM): tell the aussie to IM me
ZRO4825 (11:05:52 PM): lol

DarkDawezy (11:07:54 PM): sounds good to me

so there you have it, my idea. yes there are members i left out, but that's what Tag Team belts and other ones i remember are for. I think this would be a great way to set us apart from other club banners. Lemm me know what youse guys think...and also..maybe someone talented ( IE not as lazy as the bisho bot ) to do it.

CP:
Where's the damn power cord for my PS2?! >.<

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That definitely sounds like a good and funny idea. I'm not sure what everyone else thinks but I think it'd be great, and certainly make the club stand out among the rest. I was always wondering why this club didn't have banners and most of the other big ones do. I figured the Cult was just too cool and badass for banners. Hell, in the old school days there were no internet or banners!

Anywayz, I'd be glad to help out. I can't say i'm the most talented person to do it, I'm sure other people in this club are more qualified, but i'd definitely volunteer if somebody else doesn't want to. Looking at Jin's sig, i bet he could do some cool things. Loco's too.

But yeah we'll have to see what everyone else says and go over everyone's belt titles etc. But great idea, we're gonna rock the rest of these lightweight's worlds!

You guys know me all too well. The Hardcore division is where I dominated when I was in an E-Fed years ago. That is, until I took reigns as the LWF Champion one month following a year-long absence. Too bad the fed came to an end, the guy who ran it got overrun with life and such. So, in other words, I am all for this idea, as well as the title assigned to me. I'll pwn j0 with a steel chair, biatch!

CP: SaGa Frontier II, and loving it thus far.

The look of that 2D Zelda is continuing to impress me, equiping medallions, Majora's Mask, wow I can't wait to see it.

The Title belts sound like an awsome idea and will really help this club stand out a bit more I think. Go with it, I'm not a graphics designer myself so I won't be able to help much.

....No. Dumbest idea I've ever heard. We're not some wrestling club. We're an FF/Oldskool club.

Banners are fine, but belts? Hell no.

Well that's one for no. I don't know how you guys do things around here, if this is a democracy or what, but certainly everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Unless some cult leader overrules them and uses the light of judgment on them! :P

In regards to other banners, before hearing about the title belt idea, i was thinking about making my own banner. I thought a funny idea would be to have a banner with the scene from FF VI outside the fanatic's tower (or the cult of kefka tower :) ) where the cult members are walking around in a circular motion. I was thinking of replacing the cult members with different sprites each representing a member of the group. Of course we'd have General Leo, Sabin, Dark Knight Dawzey, a Ninja, Setzer, etc etc.

..but we'll have to hear what everyone else says about the title belt idea.

Uhh, no, it's a Cult. Pretty much anything that I say goes. That's how cults work. ;) Of course, Dawezy and Dauragon have that same authority.

Piro, it might be a silly idea, but it's not "dumb" by any means. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have to be so quick to trash the idea. It's certainly unique, at the very least, so what's your problem? Seems like I'm coming across all sorts of posts of yours today that just aren't very polite.

Why the hell are you on edge? I'd certainly like to know. If anyone around here has a reason to be pissed off, it's me.



Anyway, as far as the belts go, I think it'd be a nifty idea. I can't promise that I'd sport one in my signature, but I may. It would depend upon how large they are. Of course, character sprites would be required, which means I'd have Sabin -- he is, after all, the character that has represented me on this forum for over four years now, and has appeared in a handful of OSCoK avatars as well.

My currently playing is limited to nothing and... nothing.

It's kinda difficult right now.

@LocoColt04, damn that sux dude I really hope the damage is only temporary, but the posibility that you could have to be seeing those wierd colors and find it hard to read for a very long time, well it's going to make the forums hard to deal with. Hope you get better soon. I given you larger font so that this message dosn't strain your eyes so much.

Wow that does sound cool GLC, as a banner for the club, but at the same time the title belts sound more personalised for each member and that will make me for one feel special. Your idea does sound better as a universal club banner, but if I am going to wear anything for this club i'll want it to be a small as posible, because I don't want my sig to get any more cluttered because I for one actually don't like the scrolling banners people have now. Anyway I think we should vote for wether to have banner or belts, I vote for the belts.

Haha, larger font, cute. I'm actually laughing at the thoughtfulness, though.


@topic: Also, the problem with a single club banner is that someone will always dislike it, or the way s/he is portrayed in it, thus causing whining. It's always easier to go with personalized stuff in that case.

And if enough people don't like the idea of wrestling-style title belts, well, too bad. It's a cult, and I like the idea.

However, in fairness, I think crowns would also work in the same sense. It would take a bit more creativity to add more uniqueness to each of them, but at least a crown wouldn't be specific to any singular genre. Even though I think Piro's post (or at least the attitude portrayed within it) was unnecessary, he did at least have somewhat of a point.

I'm all for the title belts, but if you guys like the idea of crowns, that could work just as easily, eh?

Yeah, I like the idea of crowns a lot more, as for personalising them, maybe instead of having like gems or gold points we could have like shapes or objects that appear to communicate some sort of stereotype about the member, not that I have any ideas but just throwing it out there for other people to brainstorm over.

OR SPRITES!

On the tops, instead of gemstones, there could be character sprites!

For the sake of simplicity, it could be a rather simple three-point design, completely two-dimensional, so it would look something like this... but, you know, prettier because it would be a picture:

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where each S would represent a sprite of the user's choice atop a peak of the crown -- his/her favorite and/or representative sprite (in my case, Sabin, albeit not my favorite character by any means) located right in the middle.

It would have a transparent background and would be entirely pixelized in traditional old school fashion. Of course, usernames and "OSCoK" would have to be in there somewhere as well. I'd be more than willing to whip up a sample (tomorrow) if you're interested in what I've got going in my head.

And don't worry, I'll just close my right eye so I can get the colors right. ;)

Wow that does sound cool, I'm not sure what 3 sprites I would go with, probably Setzer, a Pixelized Stan and maybe Locke, because he is my favourite FF6 character and probably in all of FF. Stan is actually a lot like me in term of personality and attitude and Setzer reflects my username and also that fact that I play of lot of chance (D&D) games. The main colors in the crown would be red and blue for me, but that may suck if I decide to change my user theme again, which could be close or distant.

I would like to see what other people would imagine their crown would look like.

Good idea LocoColt04, you have my support. Not that it matters since this is a Cult, I have to sit down and shut up.

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Link's Awakening
Twilight Princess