What do you feel the government is hiding from us?

[Angel of Iniquity]

I mean it can be anything from new technology, to alien encounters, to actually how close the world was to extinction if a comet came close, whatever.

Please give in-depth answers, not single phrases like.

"There definitely hiding something."

[Alpha]

None of those things, perhaps with the exception of new technology, but that will most likely be military technology, and if there were any commercial opportunities, it would not remain hidden.

You have to consider motive. What motive does the government have to hide alien encounters?

If they're hiding anything, it's not politicians, but policy advisors. Governments often look for the evidence that will best support their predetermined policies rather than the best evidence on which to ground their yet-to-be determined policies.

EDIT: Example: The UK government's instructions to its Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC,) in making a case for invasion in Iraq (similar things happened in Australia and America), requested a case “as strong as the evidence properly permitted”. This amounts to a request to slant the evidence, and thus to depart from a strictly objective standpoint. A truly objective account would surely have asked for a case “as strong or as weak as the evidence properly permitted".

Further, the concept of 'plausible deniability' is relevant here. By this concept, political leaders are deliberately kept in the dark in order to be able to deny personal knowledge and therefore responsibility for disreputable decisions. Here, Iraqi WMDs come to mind.

It's not that they're hiding anything, but are operating with 'impaired' or incomplete knowledge, without awareness.

[Angel of Iniquity]

I believe that the society, wouldn't be the easiest for them to handle if something we needn't know knew.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but, the movie Armageddon, nobody knew about the "end" until months before. If we were to know about that, mass hysteria may occur.
Same with the aliens, which may put religion out in many cases, which may put faith into question, and many people may lose their reason to live.
A friends friend(questionable, I know), said that our technology is about 15 years old.
Again, I do not believe in the next, but remember Guns of the patriots, where there were back strings being pulled?

That may actually sound plausible.

[Block]

I mean it can be anything from new technology, to alien encounters, to actually how close the world was to extinction if a comet came close, whatever.

Please give in-depth answers, not single phrases like.

"There definitely hiding something."

My father has worked for the government for 30+ years now and he is always talking about how 95% of the government is so far behind commercial technologies that it's embarrassing. As far as the 5% he leaves out I believe most of that is some form of inhumane research into the human genome.

[Angel of Iniquity]

My father has worked for the government for 30+ years now and he is always talking about how 95% of the government is so far behind commercial technologies that it's embarrassing. As far as the 5% he leaves out I believe most of that is some form of inhumane research into the human genome.

Hmm, what part of the government is or was he working for?
Maybe there is more that they didn't tell him?
Or maybe there is stuff he knows but can't say.
I meant the CIA or the CDA.

[Meier Link]

Thread moved to GC. Really conspiracy theories don't have a place in ID because they have no solid ground and a server lack of proof.

[Unknown Entity]

Everybody is hiding something.

The way I look at is that if the government ARE hiding something like the end of the world from us, is it really such a bad thing? It keeps us in line, and keeps us from resorting to mass panic and violence because of the "we might as well because we won't be here tomorrow" mentality.

If the government just admitted that there was other life in the universe, think of the trouble that would cause. There's a very high chance religion would be questioned, (unless you're one of the types that believe that maybe God created more than one world), and then probably war over who's right and who's wrong (meanwhile, the aliens watch from their saucer, and are thankful they don't have to live among us). It goes without a doubt there'd be mass panic and violence, because people would assume we'd only be being told it because a mothership is flying over to take over the world right that very minute.

From a technology point of view, yes, I can imagine a lot is being hidden. But it'd only be the front men hiding it - not exactly the government officials who you might see once in a while on the news. If you have a piece of advanced technology, you wouldn't want your enemies knowing about it and how it was made, especially if it'll give you the upper-hand if the shit hits the fan.

[Sinister]

Let me answer with a reply that sounds remarkably like Alpha's. What is the government hiding from us? Whatever the government has a reason to hide from us. Now depending on your view of the government or the gravity of the supposed info to be suppressed, this could be a lot or a little.

All I know is that dirty laundry has to be washed someday, they had simply be careful how that happens. A lot of "suppressed info" from previous administrations is already resurfacing and I think time will tell.

-Sin

[Josh_R]

I can tell you right now what the government is hiding. One word Illuminati. It exist believe everyone.....

[Angel of Iniquity]

I can tell you right now what the government is hiding. One word Illuminati. It exist believe everyone.....

Please give in-depth answers, not single phrases.
I know your just joking but...

[Clint]

Biological weapon manufacturing. In 1943, America began manufacturing toxic and infectious substances to use as weapons. After World War II, the Soviets picked up on the idea, and began trying to manufacture weaponized versions of the bacillus anthracis, better known as anthrax.

The United States lead this research, and even came up with ways to secretly disperse it into populated areas. The production of biological weapons seemingly ended in 1972 when President Nixon called for an immediate halt on all biological weapons production.

The Soviet Union agreed to the truce, yet after it's dissolve in the early 1990's, the largest chemical weapons facility in the world was discovered in the country of Kazakhstan. The plant was manufacturing anthrax inside of eleven four story fermentation chambers, and it was built no earlier than 1980, which was a clear violation of the biological weapon's truce.

So if the Soviets broke the truce, then it's safe to say that the United States probably did, too, which brings to question; are they still manufacturing biological weapons?

[Furore]

I'm going to say 'a lot'.
There's a reason they make security, maintenance, IT and others sign non disclosure forms before they let them perform their roles in some government environments.
Any more then that, I'm not allowed to say.

[Rocky]

download tor, get on the hidden wiki there and you'll see all kinds of things that the government hides.

I'll just say one thing though, they do it to protect us. It's not out of spite or anything, unless you're into that wierd stuff. Which if you are, then something's not right with you.

[Josh_R]

Please give in-depth answers, not single phrases.
I know your just joking but...

I'm actually not joking, but hey believe what you want. The illuminati is out there, and they want your mind, body, and soul.

I am a conspiracy buff, so I believe there are many things that they are hiding.

[Robbo]

Absolutely nothing if you think about it, it's much easier to let everyone think the Government has more control than what it actually does thus they don't break the rules and moan as much when an unpopular decision is made.

[Angel of Iniquity]

Well, from what I know, the B2 spirit was a long kept secret for a while.
That is obviously for the safety of counter maneuvers by other countries.
So, perhaps these alien sightings are really future aircraft?

[Locke4God]

I'm pretty sure they're hiding that they use minorities as pawns to keep themselves in power, telling them that they sympathize with them, but never actually doing anything for them. OR if they do "something" for them, it's in the form of welfare, which actually doesn't do anything for them other than make them more dependant on the people who are supposedly helping.

There are no aliens on earth. I'm sure they exist, but the sheer physics of transversing a galaxy is seriously improbable.

[Selcopa]

There's actually a very reputable news organization that discusses some of the things the government hides

YouTube - Is The Government Spying On Schizophrenics Enough?

[Angel of Iniquity]

There's actually a very reputable news organization that discusses some of the things the government hides

YouTube - Is The Government Spying On Schizophrenics Enough?

THe hell kind a crap is that? LMAO!
DO exactly what they, or at least in the paranoid class, think anyways?
My uncle(if he knew I brought him up online...) is very paranoid, as if somebody is watching him... He even covers up his fire alarms thinking it can be a camera. Now, if he seen that vid... sheesh. And he isn't a bad Schizophrenic. He is smart, and nicee, but you know he is different. Not all mental diseases are bad lol

Hell I'm Schizotypal which I guess is in the same spectrum as the other, but not in the same severity, and I lack a few MAJOR symptoms of it. Evebn I wouldn't like cameras everywhere... O.o

I don't know if i could trust something called the onion anyways.

[Diamond Dust]

You really shouldn't trust The Onion for anything other than making you laugh. It's not real; in the sense that it isn't serious.

[Victoria]

The Onion is basically like the Daily Show; not to be used as an actual source of news, except not even to take it with a grain of salt. It's just fake funny news, that's all.

[Angel of Iniquity]

The Onion is basically like the Daily Show; not to be used as an actual source of news, except not even to take it with a grain of salt. It's just fake funny news, that's all.

I was about to say...>.>

Everything they said was backwards and yea... lol

[Selcopa]

looks like it caused some unintentional trolling, I thought everyone already knew what the onion was(I think i posted it)

It's different from the daily show in that the daily show just makes fun of current news, where the onion makes up all of its news to satire current news. There are some damn funny ones on it too

[FF9isthebest]

What is the government not hiding from us? Anyone watch Alex Jones, the guy who filmed the Bohemian grove ceremony, where republicans worship satan and burn effigy's of children? He's a bit out their but he uses factual documentation. I don't believe every conspiracy but their are many secret societies that run different aspects of government ruthlessly and immorally. That's why people gotta be informed of this bullshit, counter it with love. I believe our government hides things from us because it would be to terrible for us to know the truth, what if every American was shown Abu Graid or the Bohemian grove ceremony? There would be less of this shit going on that's for sure...

[kurohime]

The Government is hiding the ways into other dimensions. They want you to think that they do not exist. THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!!!!!!!!!

[che]

Education, freedom, and happiness. (U.S.)

[Sasquatch]

Whatever individual politicians need to hide to further their own agendas.

Like, say, evidence. Studies have been done that say that such-and-such policy will be bad for the economy, won't help as much as claimed, etc., and those are hidden. Only the information supporting their claims is released when it needs to be.

Technology is understandable, because we don't want our possible opponents to have the same technology that we do. Which makes sense -- if we spend all the money to research and develop it, we shouldn't just give it away for free.

On the aliens thing ... what would the government gain by hiding any of that from us? Sure, most of the Presidents have claimed to be Christian, but do you really think that Obama wouldn't release proof of life off Earth because it might damage some people's faith? Besides, the possible technology can't be too advanced. Everything I've seen in movies tells me that aliens have mastered intergallactic flight, but aren't smart enough to figure out a doorknob.

EDIT: Oh, I almost forgot:

... the Bohemian grove ceremony, where republicans worship satan and burn effigy's of children?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ... Wow, kid.

[Block]

Education, freedom, and happiness. (U.S.)

My **** hurts from the truth in this statement.