Something that really pisses me off.

[The furthest light]

What's really been pissing me off lately is when people say season's greetings or happy holidays instead of happy Christmas, it's been like that for hundreds of years why the hell are people trying to change because it offends some other people ****ing hell man what's this world coming to, how the hell can that offend anyone unless they like stirring shit up to **** this world up more than it already is.

[Sinister]

Yea! And, hey, let me tell you about airline food!

It's...really not that good at all...

Shit pisses me off...

-Sin

[The furthest light]

Yea! And, hey, let me tell you about airline food!

It's...really not that good at all...

Shit pisses me off...

-Sin

lol irrelevant but hell why not.

[motscroises]

It isn't that people get offended by someone saying 'Happy Christmas', but it doesn't make them feel included. That's the key factor there. We want people of many different cultures to feel included in our society because there is a lot to gain from listening to the minority and celebrating differences. Say 'Happy Christmas' if you want, but I wouldn't take it so personally that others say 'happy holidays', it's just a way to show respect to all those around them

[loaf]

Happy Holidays sounds better. Also some people don't celebrate it.

[NikkiLinkle]

Happy Holidays is ok. It's a more general term, because some people have holidays around this time of year. I don't see why you're so pissed about that. Doesn't seem worth it. And isn't it usually Merry Christmas?!

[Unknown Entity]

It's not so much of an offence thing. At school, I still wrote out cards to my Muslim classmates, and they appreciated them just as much as anyone. I'm an atheist, so they may have seen it differently from that perspective, but I doubt it. Would it piss you off if a non-Christian celebrated Christmas for non-religious reasons?

Also, Christmas is a seasonal holiday. So both statements "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" are correct. People don't tend to say that in the middle of summer (ours in England, at least) because it's not festive.

In my opinion, it's the people who celebrate Christmas who take the most offence from it. Same with any other holiday during the year. That pisses me off.

[RagnaToad]

I cannot comprehend how this can "really piss you off".

[seanb]

I'm like, so non-conformist that I like don't even say 'seasons greetings' or 'happy holidays' because like, that even conforms me, which I'm like, not comfortable with and, like, instead of saying that, when someone says happy christmas to me I just like, say like, 'hello' back to them ... instead of happy holidays. here's a picture of me saying this. it was taken on my iphone that I bought with my uni grant:

[loaf]

I went on a delivery today. The person at the house told me Merry Christmas, I raged at them so hard, they really pissed me off..

[Dranzer]

Would it piss you off if a non-Christian celebrated Christmas for non-religious reasons?

I think a majority of the Christmas celebrating population fall under that category to be honest with you. Does it piss me off? No, I know why I celebrate the holiday, I don't really care why anyone else does.

This is kind of related, but a cousin of mine is a school teacher in Virginia - she called my grandmother the other day all upset because she was told that she wasn't allowed to decorate her classroom for Christmas. She also wasn't allowed to have a class discussion about the holiday unless she held a discussion for the other holidays that are celebrated around this time of year: Hanukkah and Kwanzaa.

Honestly, I understand the whole stipulation in regards to the discussion bit, but I think it's stupid that she can't decorate her classroom.

PS- This is off topic, but it pisses me off that they took out "one nation under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Michael Swayne]

I always say "Happy Holidays" to people, but only if I don't know what holiday they celebrate. It's a way to make sure you don't look like a fool for getting their religion wrong. Plus, anymore you have to be PC, or else you get sued/arrested/both for discriminating against someone.

I rarely ask what Holiday they celebrate, because to me it's like asking who a person voted for or how much money they make. It's just one of those questions you don't ask.

It's...really not that good at all...

You must be on the wrong plane. LOL

And isn't it usually Merry Christmas?!

I think in UK and Ireland it is usually "Happy Christmas". At least that's what wiki says. I have heard it on TV shows from there as well.

took out "one nation under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance.

I have never said "under God" when saying the pledge.

[NikkiLinkle]

Oh I didn't know that. I thought it was Merry Christmas everywhere. Thanks for clearing that up.

Really at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you say, as long as it's from the heart. I know that's real corny, but it's true.

[Clint]

I have never said "under God" when saying the pledge.

So you're an idiot.

What pisses me off is when people attempt to explain how the phrase "happy holidays" is general, whereas "merry Christmas" is selective to a particular group of people. I don't like that people feel the need to include all groups of people in everything. Sometimes, people need to be excluded in order for them to learn their place.

Take women, for example. They complained until they were given freedom in America, yet still the only place they're useful is in the kitchen and in the bedroom. They haven't learn their place because of "equality."

[Taco-Calamitous]

People can say whatever they want. You can say "Happy Holidays" to me, or if you say "Merry Christmas" to me, I'll probably be like "Yeah, you too." I don't care. Most likely, I personally will not even bring the holidays up, unless something makes me feel so inclined. I am lazy, I guess.

However, I am more likely to say "Merry Christmas," regardless of who it is, because I don't care. I'm wishing you well, so take the well wishes, damn it. Anyhoo...

Wuv, Yer Mom

[Rowan]

Christmas was originally a pagan holiday. So Christians , please stop claiming that you own it.

[Tallulah]

I think what the OP is annoyerd about is the fact that the media tell us that we can't say "Merry Christmas" because of "political correctness". Around this time of year, the media, especially right wing press such as the Daily Mail (moar liek Daily Fail, amirite? :] ) are full of stories about local government authorities and private companies saying to their representatives and/or employees: "You can't say 'Merry Christmas' as this might offend non-Christians, blah blah blah..."

There was a STUPID story a couple years back, apparently a council in Birmingham had taken to calling Christmas "Winterval" in a bid to stop 'offending' people. When I read this I was like "Oh FFS! " but later on I learnt that this report was untrue.

So, I say; say what you want, it doesn't bother me.

[seanb]

I think in UK and Ireland it is usually "Happy Christmas".

I say merry and most people I know do aswell..

I reserve the 'happy' for 'happy new year' .... cos I'm economical. Seasonal courtesy is a finite resource

Take women, for example. They complained until they were given freedom in America, yet still the only place they're useful is in the kitchen and in the bedroom. They haven't learn their place because of "equality."

....struth

[Dranzer]

Christmas was originally a pagan holiday. So Christians , please stop claiming that you own it.

Christmas was never a pagan holiday. Yule is the pagan holiday, a lot of traditions that Christians have in regards to Christmas stem from that holiday, but Christmas is solely a Christian celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.

[Quistis]

This reminds me of a South Park episode. I wish I could remember which one but it's all about how everyone seem to accept a minority's views no matter how wrong/ridiculous they are just because they are afraid of offending them and being called a racist/hater/etc.

Take women, for example. They complained until they were given freedom in America, yet still the only place they're useful is in the kitchen and in the bedroom. They haven't learn their place because of "equality."

Ugh, tbh, sometimes I wish I could just stay home and clean the house, cook, etc but times are hard and I gotta work 40 hours a week on top of that these days! *kicks a can*

[Sasquatch]

Christmas was originally a pagan holiday. So Christians , please stop claiming that you own it.

There's a huge difference between a pagan celebration close to the same time as Christmas and Christmas itself being a pagan holiday. So please stop claiming that you know more about Christianity than Christians do.

However, I am more likely to say "Merry Christmas," regardless of who it is, because I don't care. I'm wishing you well, so take the well wishes, damn it. Anyhoo...

Exactly.

This was me and the check-out girl, the other day at Wal-Mart:
"Merry Christmas."
"I'm not Christian."
"Happy Hannukah."
"I'm not Jewish either."
"Then I don't care." Out.

Really -- the entire point of "Season's Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" was so that people who don't celebrate Christmas wouldn't feel "offended". The way I see it, if you're offended by somebody telling you to have a good day, screw you. And there are prettymuch three types of late-December celebrations: Hannukah, for Jewish people; Kwanzaa, for stupid people; and Christmas, for people who believe in Jesus and people who get together and trade gifts once a year. The latter covers the vast majority of Americans, whether they are Christian or not.

[smurphy]

Although I am atheist, I much prefer saying merry xmas as opposed to happy holidays, but thats because to me xmas is the time of year that the family gets together, and I dont mind the christian connotations of xmas either.

Although I wouldnt frown upon someone saying happy holidays, the idea of someone taking offence kind of offends me on a rational level. If someone didnt want to be exposed to xmas or more precisely the people celebrating it then living in predominantly christian countries which have been so for hundreds of years is just plain moronic.

[RagnaToad]

You have to be a christian to say 'merry christmas'? I thought that holiday was all about spending hours in the mall buying useless shit for your relatives?

Seirously. I'm an atheist, but atheists acting like douches when someone tells them 'merry christmas' would annoy me just as much as christians complaining about 'happy holidays'. Stop wining and spend money.

I actually had never heard of this bullshit debate before the past few weeks. Before reading these kind of threads on the internet recently (*cough*reddit*cough*), I had never considered the thought of 'happy holidays' being somehow anti-christian, and 'merry christmas' being solely for actual christians. People over here (Belgium) say either, it seems. And no one claims to be offended.

[Mystyrion]

Really -- the entire point of "Season's Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" was so that people who don't celebrate Christmas wouldn't feel "offended". The way I see it, if you're offended by somebody telling you to have a good day, screw you. And there are prettymuch three types of late-December celebrations: Hannukah, for Jewish people; Kwanzaa, for stupid people; and Christmas, for people who believe in Jesus and people who get together and trade gifts once a year. The latter covers the vast majority of Americans, whether they are Christian or not.

You forgot about a Festivus for the rest of us.

[The furthest light]

Gah **** i suppose the majority of you are right... it's something that pisses everyone in my house off and I caught up in it the matter of the fact is it's that this holiday is for anyone to celebrate not just one group and anyone can call it what they want to make them feel apart off it, i'm not christian I don't follow a religion, I believe in a god but I don't follow a religion, Christmas has become something that no matter what you believe in it's where you express your love for your family and friends and where everyone come's together, WW1 is a good example I mean we played football with the German's for god's sake, we set aside our difference's....
Sorry everyone I feel like an complete ass

[Rowan]

There's a huge difference between a pagan celebration close to the same time as Christmas and Christmas itself being a pagan holiday. So please stop claiming that you know more about Christianity than Christians do.

I bet you I know a whole lot more about christianity than a supposed christian could prove to me. But seeing as to how you think I may not have all the facts, tell me why you would celebrate the murder of a supposed son of god by having feasts and giving each other presents in what one should deem one of the darkest and most horrific events in christian history? Dont say its to celebrate his life, thats a copout. Almost every topic on these forums ends up back to religion, im so fu**ing sick of it.

[Aerif]

I bet you I know a whole lot more about christianity than a supposed christian could prove to me. But seeing as to how you think I may not have all the facts, tell me why you would celebrate the murder of a supposed son of god by having feasts and giving each other presents in what one should deem one of the darkest and most horrific events in christian history? Dont say its to celebrate his life, thats a copout. Almost every topic on these forums ends up back to religion, im so fu**ing sick of it.

Jesus was born on Christmas. Celebrating his birth.

Jesus was resurrected on Easter. Celebrating his resurrection.

When did the murder celebration happen? When we were happy he died for his sins? 'Cause that was a voluntary thing, we celebrate his decision.

Debating religion should be done in the 'intellectual' section. There's quotation marks there because you're doing it wrong.

[Mystyrion]

celebrate the murder of a supposed son of god by having feasts and giving each other presents in what one should deem one of the darkest and most horrific events in christian history?

You know we are celebrating his birth right? I thought that was pretty obvious, you know silent night, all the pageants about his birth and all.
Easter is about his death.

[Rowan]

Nah im like the expert on religiousness and im telling you that hes dead on easter...

Nah but seriously aerif, you cant debate religion with people who ignore facts and eveidence that are hypocrytical to the teachings in the bible (wether you take them literally or not) so theres no point and I dont want to piss off alpha.

[loaf]

This is why I don't believe in religion.