Gay the new "N" word?

[GypsyElder]

I'm attempting this in Gen Chat

I'm honestly curious about this one.

There's a commercial now about it as if it's one of those above the influence smoking/drug commercials.

What are your views on the way people loosely use the term "gay"?

If I'm being absolutely, truthfully honest, I think it's silly that it's become such a big problem. At the same time I DO see how it can come off offensive... But..

The way I look at is society has made a third meaning for the word, and it's not the first time a word is given a random meaning. It's not set in stone and there is no formal definition of that manner for the word, but I admit I use the word a lot to refer to something silly or lame;however, that in no way means I'm saying a person who is gay is silly or lame and I think that where there's problems. If you think of the word "retarded" and saying "oh that's so retarded"; that in no way means that I'm saying person who is mentally disabled is stupid. It's another loosely used term with kind of the same idea. Another example could probably be referring to someone or something as "ghetto"

The term gay shares the definition with "happy" so does that mean all gays are overly joyful?

I have tried to tone down the use of these kind of expressions because they can easily be taken the wrong way.

Opinions? My opinion is still swayabale.

[Unknown Entity]

I don't see the big deal about the word "gay", if I'm honest. Its meaning has changed so much, it's ridiculous to take it the wrong way.

I do avoid saying it just in case I do offend someone though.

[Tallulah]

I don't see the big deal about the word "gay", if I'm honest. Its meaning has changed so much, it's ridiculous to take it the wrong way.

I do avoid saying it just in case I do offend someone though.

This.

There are quite a few gay and bisexual people at my work (two of them are married, or rather in a 'civil partnership' - but one of them has taken the other's surname, so as far as I'm concerned they're married!) so I am quite aware of the whole gay thing.

I was shocked however, when in the staffroom Glen, one of my gay colleagues called Kev, who is also gay, a 'homo', and hearing Kev resond with 'Shut up, you faggot!' It was amusing to listen to, but I knew it was a bit of jokey banter. I know I could certainly never get away with saying anything like thaty to either of them, not that I would.

There was also a funny 'foot in mouth' incident at work, when Kelly one of the girls, advised Jack (another one of the gay guys at work) not to use a particular piece of equipment (one of the coffee machines) because it was 'being gay'. She realised her mistake after she said it and was so embarrassed! For the record I don't think Jack noticed.

[Treize]

I don't like how words like gay and retarded are used negatively like that. If the words are used that way and to refer to a set of people, it automatically brings a negative connotation when you talk about the people. I try to avoid using those types of expressions, but that's just my take on it. I'm not really offended if people use those words, but I can really see how someone would get offended. It doesn't look like it's going to change too soon, so it looks like gay and retarded people are just going to have to live with it. =/

[loaf]

Lol the old ass Wanda Sykes commercial about not saying the word "gay". I lol'd.

my only thing towards it is well....so may words in this world are now with multiple definitions because of slang and what not. It's like the word fag. A cigarette or apparently someone who is gay?

[Clint]

People are so sensitive nowadays. Gay people don't like other people, or straight people, using the term gay not in reference to them, as if that they decide what defines the word.

A little history lesson. The word gay seems to have its origins around the 12th century in England, derived from the Old French word gai. The word’s original meaning meant something to the effect of joyful, full of mirth, or bright and showy.

Around the 17th century, the word's meaning changed, and began to mean something along the lines of "carefree." Around the 19th century, "gay" was a reference to prostitutes, and a "gay man" was somebody who had sex with a lot of prostitutes. So I guess Charlie Sheen is a gay man.

It wasn't until 1955 until the word was in reference to homosexual men. So if gay people have to complain about the "improper" use of a word which they claim has a set-definition, that just means they're ****ing retards who don't know their goddamn history.

[Rocky]

I don't think it is the new "*GASP* HE SAID WHAATT?" word, at least yet. If it is, well then I'm in trouble; I call myself gay all the time

If anything, I think the demeaning use of the word "retard" is probably the new N word. Ever since Rosa's Law got put into play, the use of the word has no real meaning anymore besides to be used in a negative connotation. I myself have used the word negatively quite often, and have decided to give it up for Lent. It's definitely something I struggle at lol, but I do work with kids that have disabilities so it does make me feel good when I can set a positive example by not making fun of them.

[Dan558]

Personally I think I've been desensitized as even seeing it as a meaningful insult. I do still register it as also meaning homosexual but I'm logical enough to know the difference when someone is really using it as a slanderous word against homosexuals or if it's just an off-the-cuff derogatory/random insult for lack of a more accurate term.

Kinda like how "Lame" used to/still does mean that a persons legs don't work. But when I hear lame, I almost never think of it that way or even as a severe insult. I was recently surprised when my brother told me that while he was a camp councilor that it was a forbidden word and he had to remind me of the leg thing.

[motscroises]

I feel like these words really lose their meaning after time. If you said 'gay' 80 years ago, people would assume you meant someone was happy. No one uses that word in that term any more. The word 'retarded' is evolving similarly, the medical diagnosis for someone who has difficulty functioning due to a low IQ is not 'mentally retarded' anymore, it is called a 'cognitive impairment'. And now that I think of it, 'idiot' was once a clinical term as well. However, I can see how people can be hurt by the crude use of these words. I'm kind of torn on the subject. I just try to be understanding of both sides of the topic.

[Tiffany]

I'm guilty of using the term "gay" for something that I dislike, but not an immense dislike... if that makes any sense. "Oh, that's so gay" is a catch phrase of mine. I don't see it as being the same as using the oh so derogatory "N" word but I'm sure there are people out there who would disagree with me.

I agree though, word meanings evolve. Back in tha' day, using the term retarded was PC. Now its considered an insult. Guaranteed a bunch more of stuff that we deem socially acceptable today will be an insult of tomorrow.

[Dan558]

This all reminds me of the South Park episode where the kids don't even realize that the word "fag" could be used for homosexuals. They just use it to insult ignorantly loud motorcyclists.

[Angel of Iniquity]

Ehh, I can't really say. Where I live, everybody says it without descretion.
When I am on CoD, if I get killed, I say, "Oh that's gay", or, "Oh you ****ing faggot."
People just laugh.
I think it is quickly loosing it's meaning like ******.

Sorry if I had offended anybody.

[Block]

Being sensitive to others feelings is gay.

No, but really, the word can bring back very hard and dark times for some homosexuals and should be treated with as much respect as the "N" word. Which, by the way, I say all the time, *****.

[Alpha]

I agree completely with Treize.

Though I concede I do say it on occasion, and I also concede that no one uses it to offend.

The problem I see is linking it with things that "aren't good". If something isn't enjoyable, it's gay. If a sport isn't physical, it's sissy. If a person says something dumb, they're a retard.

But if there is nothing inherently wrong with being homosexual, 'feminine', or mentally disabled, then what justifies those associations? I don't think they are as harmless as we think.

I know, from having a severely intellectually disabled sibling, the word 'retard' is very offensive. Of course, it is most offensive when attached to it's "actual" meaning. It does not, however, completely take away it's impact in other situations, and I know this from personal experience.

[Merlin]

The problem isn't the words, its an overly sensitive, sue-happy society that thinks everything is somehow directly insulting them. For example, homosexuals don't want us to call them "gay". So if I unexpectedly say "that car is so gay" to a homosexual, it doesn't mean I want him to put his d#ck in its back end... nor am I talking about the person. I said "the car". This also comes from the consistent removal of grammar from education. If you can't tell that the subject was "the car" in that sentence, ie the object to which the predicate "is so gay" is describing/modifying, than you sir are retarded. Oh but now I just insulted the mentally disabled person who isn't even present by saying a homosexual is retarded. Does that mean that mentally disabled people are gay? Oh damn, now I just insulted both groups. Seriously, WTF?

People no longer have a concept of context. Everything we say is contextually based. If you strip away the context of anything it sounds wrong and can be interpreted wrong. For example, many people can make anything you say sound sexually explicit out of context. You could be teaching someone how to stake a tent and say "Just stick it in the hole and jam it down hard". OMG you want to do what?

The point is that people are getting offended over things that make no sense.

Here is a few more examples of why context makes all the difference, not the word:

• Calling a homosexual a faggot. WRONG
• Asking a British person to pass the fags. OK
• "Those damn (N-word)gers keep loitering on my property!" WRONG
• "What up my (N-word)gas, how you iz doingz?" (between people of the same race, not say a caucasian to african americans.) OK
• "Hey retard, stop drooling on the book!" WRONG
• "This class is so retarded" OK

The problem is, there are a lot of people who simply cannot tell the difference. This means that the rest of us have to censor ourselves to appease the ignorant. I've gotten to the point that I replace phrases with silly stuff just so people can't throw up the insult card.

• "That's so raven!" Classic. Gives people weird vibes every time. ^^
• "Son of a biscuit!"
• "Shut the front door!"
• "Fudge!"
• "Moist and beefy" Don't ask...

[Pete]

I don't really worry about offending too many people when I speak. I try not to deal with people who get all pissy when the words gay and retard are thrown around. The only exception would be if someone was actually retarded, and I called them a retard... I'd feel pretty badly then.

Other than that, the word nigger is a word that has also lost much of its meaning. On one hand, it's a loaded word, with lots of connotation of slavery and overt racism. On the other hand, when black people are referring to each other as niggas, it really loses that whole forbidden vibe that it's had.

[Diamond Dust]

Amusing thread. I'll throw a couple of ironies in the hat. I have two female friends who are very openly bi-sexual (one of which is currently in a relationship with another girl) - the other with whom I am currently trying to woo (woo!) and both girls quite often refer to things that don't appeal to them or annoy them as 'gay'. It's just a word, neither I or they give a toss about it to be quite frank.

The other one is something between myself and another friend (we're both Caucasian) and regular 'abuse' each other with what some people would consider racist inferences. Neither of us do it publicly, and neither of us have any intention of calling a man or lady of African descent in the street a '(n-word)gers', 'Paki', 'Jew', 'white honkey' or what have you. Some people might think that is stupid, and it probably is but it's a conversation out of harms way between two adults talking in private and concerns no one else. I am white, so should I be offended if someone calls me a white honkey or a cracker (which is true by physical definition) or something that isn't, not least a friend saying it too? Don't think so. People are ridiculously sensitive these days, but mostly people just fall onto the bandwagon of political correctness.

I am in no way a racist person and have no intentions of harming, hurting, talking down to or abusing people because of their genetic make up but words are words and people often abuse the general sensitivity for their own gain ie playing the racist card (I've seen it done first hand on more than one occasion). Words just describe the blindingly obvious truth in many cases.

[che]

It's true that "gay" is associated with things people consider "stupid" or "unfortunate". However, I don't think everyone that uses the term loosely means it in a way that it intended to offend homosexual people.

At least in the United States, it's a slang of a majority of people's vocabulary - at least where I live.

The use of the word that upsets me most as a heterosexual male (outside of direct use to intentionally offend someone who is homosexual) is when people use it in a sentence like "Oh yeah, Tommy's a gay." As if to say that he is "one of them gays", aka not part of the norm.

This being said, I do believe as well that people should be less sensitive about loose terms and more concerned with the intent behind them.

[Selcopa]

Haha I remember

I saw the wanda sykes commerical and i rofled pretty hard, as far as Gay being the new N-word, may I present you with.
seems the website didnt like the hot link, anyways the picture Here

Haha I love it. I've shown it to blacks, gays, gay blacks, whites, straights, white straights, and everything else i've yet to find someone offended by it. And I dont think ill be too upset when i do.

FWIW If I was the kid on that Wanda Sykes commercial I woulda said it there too.

[sayian]

...... i think offensive language is personal and should only be taken personal and offensive if its referrd to YOU... it has little to do with the word but HOW u use it.. two people having a conversation and throwing the N or G word around is non of my business unless there disrespecting ME, then ill find that offensive but otherwize... live ur life and say what ever but always take in consideration that for every action there is a reaction...

[Locke4God]

No,,, Gay is not the new N word. But I'd like to explain why below, because it will never be for an unavoidable reason.

First, just understand the simply fact that gayness will always be a minority trait, and you have to understand how human nature views most minority traits.

What happens is that young boys esspecially, grow up in competition. For everything. One of those competitions is to prove their masculinity. Now an 8 year old doesn't understand his sexuality yet, and so he strives to prove his masculinity to fit in, or he alienates himself. If he alienates himself, he sets himself off as different. If he participates, he merely confuses himself later when he realizes that he doesn't actually care to be masculine at all.

You have to understand that a young teenage boy, who is irresponsible, and still doesn't understand the world, is not mature enough in many cases to understand or accept gayness, because he still has to prove his masculinity more than he has his entire life. You can't change this. Education will help sure, but it will never ever eliminate it. Being gay, for a young teenager will always be viewed by them as losing the "alpha male" race, and for younger boys it will always be confusing because it's not what they know most other boys are. They'll wonder why, and struggle to find others who are like them, because at that point, few are willing to admit they are gay. They don't know how. It's easy to say you're straight, because it's what everybody is, it's what you're supposed to be, it's what all the cool kids are, and it always will be. But the term gay, will always be used by young boys to ensue another boy's lower position on the masculinity rankings. For them it means, you're not as manly.

[che]

No,,, Gay is not the new N word. But I'd like to explain why below, because it will never be for an unavoidable reason.

First, just understand the simply fact that gayness will always be a minority trait, and you have to understand how human nature views most minority traits.

What happens is that young boys esspecially, grow up in competition. For everything. One of those competitions is to prove their masculinity. Now an 8 year old doesn't understand his sexuality yet, and so he strives to prove his masculinity to fit in, or he alienates himself. If he alienates himself, he sets himself off as different. If he participates, he merely confuses himself later when he realizes that he doesn't actually care to be masculine at all.

You have to understand that a young teenage boy, who is irresponsible, and still doesn't understand the world, is not mature enough in many cases to understand or accept gayness, because he still has to prove his masculinity more than he has his entire life. You can't change this. Education will help sure, but it will never ever eliminate it. Being gay, for a young teenager will always be viewed by them as losing the "alpha male" race, and for younger boys it will always be confusing because it's not what they know most other boys are. They'll wonder why, and struggle to find others who are like them, because at that point, few are willing to admit they are gay. They don't know how. It's easy to say you're straight, because it's what everybody is, it's what you're supposed to be, it's what all the cool kids are, and it always will be. But the term gay, will always be used by young boys to ensue another boy's lower position on the masculinity rankings. For them it means, you're not as manly.

What about gay females?

[Locke4God]

Tough to say. Females are a totally different thing. They don't have to live through the masculinity contest that is being a male.

I'd say it's "relatively" easy for a lezbian vs a gay male. You don't suffer quite the amount of ridicule and other girls are more understanding anyway. Guys of course don't care either way whether you're a lezbian or not. They may like you as a person, but they'll dismiss you as a dateable prospect, and will fawn you if you're actually attractive. Either way they won't hate on you by in large, at least not how they'd use "gay" as a slanderous term toward any non-manly guy.

Realize that guys don't use the term gay to actually make fun of gay people. They use it to call out other guys who aren't acting manly regardless of sexual persuasion.

Of course the point of this is whether or not GAY becomes a pejorative term. Sure. I'm not saying the term "gay" can't be used slanderously, but with it's roots in adolescense, unless you're going to eliminate the processes of growing from a boy into a man, then you're never going to get rid of gay slurs and insults. It's just a part of life really, and perhaps unfortunately, but it's really not something you can do anything about and for that reason isn't worth putting much thought into.

[Selcopa]

Plus its totally hot when 2 hot chicks start lezzin out(not so much with a couple of butch ones, but you cant deny the stigma is alot better for 2 chicks over 2 dudes swappin spit)

[motscroises]

I disagree whole heartedly with all of this. Just because women don't have to deal with the pressure of being 'alpha' does not mean that lesbians do not have a tough time being accepted by their female peers. Instead of being picked on, they are feared and ridiculed. Also, while it is not uncommon for people to be stimulated by gay/lesbian erotica, I think referring to that as 'lezzin out' is crude and objectifying as opposed to saying 'that's so gay' which may be crude, but may not.

So let's clarify. Saying 'That's gay' may or may not be offensive because the person saying it may not be thinking of a gay person or referring to any gay people. It still may be offensive though because it makes people feel defined by their sexual preferences. However, saying someone is 'lezzin out' IS offensive because you are referring to two lesbians and you are most certainly defining them by their sexual orientation. Not cool.

[OceanEyes28]

Selcopa, I really hope you were being sarcastic. I don't know your online persona at all, but I want to believe you're not a doofus.

I don't know about the new "N" word, but I do feel like you have to know your audience before using it. It used to offend me to hear it used in an "oh that's gay" fashion, but I find the less I let things offend me, the happier I am. Imo, it's the intention behind the word, not the word itself.

motscroises is smart. <3

[Selcopa]

I have to balance my ranges somewhat, between the well thought out posts that have excellent construction, and spur of the moment, borderline offensive content that does have a tendency to make people want to stab me in the throat, but also tend of have a few nuggets of truth to them, which is what instills the violent mindsets in people that read those posts.

But sure, you want a more serious post, we'll start with what i actually said, 2 girls kissing IS lezzing out, you can call it crude or whatever but that is the action.

Second, if you take a poll of any decent sized sample, and ask the question would you rather watch 2 guys start making out, or 2 girls make out, girls is going to win out every time.

Combine that with the fact of how significantly more socially acceptable it is for a girl to be bisexual, compared to a guy being bisexual, most people(guys specifically) will tell you that a guy cannot be bi, i'm in the camp myself(either gay or straight, no bi for guys)
So while it might not necessarily be "easy" for girls to be gay, it is certainly easier compared to guys.

And again with getting a bee in your bonnet about lezzin out being such an offensive term, i'd have to ask, if the aspect of yourself that is causing you to have lesbian relations with someone else, if that isn't what is causing you to do such things, what part of you is? It's not the aspect of you that likes men thats causing you to do it, unless you are really trying to cause an interesting situation.

We use terms like this in all aspects, we call it donking out in poker, tiltin up, suffering from bender-itus in hockey, things getting gay really quick.

I could probably find some terms more offensive than 'lezzin out'

[Unknown Entity]

No,,, Gay is not the new N word. But I'd like to explain why below, because it will never be for an unavoidable reason.

First, just understand the simply fact that gayness will always be a minority trait, and you have to understand how human nature views most minority traits.

I've never liked the term "gayness". Calling something "gay" because it's stupid is perfectly acceptable, because it's not stated with a gay or lesbian in mind. "Gayness", especially in the way your entire post has gone, means "feminine and unmanly". Not all gay males are feminine.

What happens is that young boys esspecially, grow up in competition. For everything. One of those competitions is to prove their masculinity. Now an 8 year old doesn't understand his sexuality yet, and so he strives to prove his masculinity to fit in, or he alienates himself. If he alienates himself, he sets himself off as different. If he participates, he merely confuses himself later when he realizes that he doesn't actually care to be masculine at all.

Especially? Right. Because girls have less important competition and challenges to face. An eight year old boy probably hasn't even heard the words "masculinity" or "sexuality", or be able to spell them.

Please don't tell me you're a child psychologist by profession.

You have to understand that a young teenage boy, who is irresponsible, and still doesn't understand the world, is not mature enough in many cases to understand or accept gayness, because he still has to prove his masculinity more than he has his entire life. You can't change this. Education will help sure, but it will never ever eliminate it. Being gay, for a young teenager will always be viewed by them as losing the "alpha male" race, and for younger boys it will always be confusing because it's not what they know most other boys are. They'll wonder why, and struggle to find others who are like them, because at that point, few are willing to admit they are gay. They don't know how. It's easy to say you're straight, because it's what everybody is, it's what you're supposed to be, it's what all the cool kids are, and it always will be. But the term gay, will always be used by young boys to ensue another boy's lower position on the masculinity rankings. For them it means, you're not as manly.

No, it really doesn't. You make it sound like at school, boys are a pack of wolves, striving on the size of their egos and penises, trying to be the biggest boy in the class with the whole "Alpha Male" thing. What I've noticed is that boys get along very well with other boys, and there's nothing hugely primal about it. I've seen my brother and his friends hanging out many of times, and the only competition they have is with anonymous players on Black Ops, and even that isn't about **** stroking, or being the "Alpha Male".

It's true that males have a hard time being open about sexuality. It's just as hard for girls, and that's based on my own experiences. Either way, it's hard to be sure and find someone you trust enough to open, regardless of your sex.

I'm not even going to read your response about females. It'll be just as conservative as your other opinions.

I have to balance my ranges somewhat, between the well thought out posts that have excellent construction, and spur of the moment, borderline offensive content that does have a tendency to make people want to stab me in the throat, but also tend of have a few nuggets of truth to them, which is what instills the violent mindsets in people that read those posts.

But sure, you want a more serious post, we'll start with what i actually said, 2 girls kissing IS lezzing out, you can call it crude or whatever but that is the action.

Yes. "Lezzing out" is the word immature men give it. The rest of the world doesn't call it that.

Second, if you take a poll of any decent sized sample, and ask the question would you rather watch 2 guys start making out, or 2 girls make out, girls is going to win out every time.

Combine that with the fact of how significantly more socially acceptable it is for a girl to be bisexual, compared to a guy being bisexual, most people(guys specifically) will tell you that a guy cannot be bi, i'm in the camp myself(either gay or straight, no bi for guys)
So while it might not necessarily be "easy" for girls to be gay, it is certainly easier compared to guys.

It's not as acceptable at all. I went to an all girls school, where if there was even the smallest hint that you were a lesbian or bisexual, your social life was completely over because girls would be scared of you. A friend made the mistake of coming out a little too soon, and had rumours going around about her the few years we had left there.

And again with getting a bee in your bonnet about lezzin out being such an offensive term, i'd have to ask, if the aspect of yourself that is causing you to have lesbian relations with someone else, if that isn't what is causing you to do such things, what part of you is? It's not the aspect of you that likes men thats causing you to do it, unless you are really trying to cause an interesting situation.

what is this i dont even??

We use terms like this in all aspects, we call it donking out in poker, tiltin up, suffering from bender-itus in hockey, things getting gay really quick.

I could probably find some terms more offensive than 'lezzin out'

For your sake, keep them to yourself.

[Sasquatch]

I've never liked the term "gayness". Calling something "gay" because it's stupid is perfectly acceptable, because it's not stated with a gay or lesbian in mind. "Gayness", especially in the way your entire post has gone, means "feminine and unmanly". Not all gay males are feminine.

First: "Gayness" definitely reflects more femininity, if only for the fact that, to males, "gayness" means liking ****, just like a woman. Otherwise, "gayness" would just mean "stupidity", as "gay" would mean "stupid", etc.

An eight year old boy probably hasn't even heard the words "masculinity" or "sexuality", or be able to spell them.

And yet, he still feels the competition.

Please don't tell me you're a child psychologist by profession.

All you are offering (read: throwing) is a difference of opinion, which is what makes up psychology. For all you know, your views could be in the minority of the child psychology field.

No, it really doesn't. You make it sound like at school, boys are a pack of wolves, striving on the size of their egos and penises, trying to be the biggest boy in the class with the whole "Alpha Male" thing.

While it's usually not extremely obvious, apparently you'd be surprised at how many things boys compete with. I was considered more manly than anybody else in my class because I was the first one to grow leg, face, and chest hair. Other boys are judged on their size (whether it be how tall they are or how bulky they are), their ability to play sports, etc. Depending on which social circles you looked into, I'm sure some compare test scores and grades, as higher scores could be equated to mean better and more mature brain function.

Boys are prettymuch a pack of wolves.

What I've noticed is that boys get along very well with other boys, and there's nothing hugely primal about it.

When there's nothing to compete about, sure. Maybe they don't let you know about it, but do you think they're not having some sort of competition?

It's not as acceptable at all. I went to an all girls school, where if there was even the smallest hint that you were a lesbian or bisexual, your social life was completely over because girls would be scared of you.

Translation: It's not as acceptable at the all-girls school that you went to. Try to think of how many television shows, movies, ads, or commercials you've seen that include two females either in a sexual act or insinuating that they're about to start one. Now try to think of the same scenes with males.

While most females may be just as impartial to male homosexuality as they are to female homosexuality, males are much different. While displays of female homosexuality (and, thus, female homosexuality itself) are encouraged by males, displays of male homosexuality (and, thus, male homosexuality itself) are highly discouraged, sometimes to extremes.

A friend made the mistake of coming out a little too soon, and had rumours going around about her the few years we had left there.

So do kids at most schools, about anything. The gay kid, the kid who swears he isn't gay but fits every stereotype, the kid who only got onto the team because his dad is the coach, the kid who's having sex with such-and-such teacher, the kid with a criminal past, the kid who sells or uses drugs, the kid who is going to kill everybody in the school, the guy who has sex a lot, the girl who has sex a lot.

They don't have to be true, and it doesn't matter whether they are or not. You're talking about rumors in high school. If high-schoolers can't learn to deal with rumors, they're going to have a long, unhappy life.

But anyway -- on the topic. Yes, I agree that "gay" is, or will be, the new "nigger". And here's why:

They are both words, used by the groups of people they refer to to be used in reference to each other, and though once socially acceptable (by their respective groups as well), now declared (or beginning to be) "unacceptable" to those groups, if used by one who is not a member of those groups. It is still, as it will be, acceptable for members of those groups to use those two words, respectively, but not for members of other groups to use them, in reference to the groups, not with other phrases that include those words.

I have absolutely no respect for whole, "I can do this, but you can't" idea.

Then again, I get cursed because I have no problem with the word "queer" being used to describe homosexuals. Another example of a group adopting a word, then trying to shun it once it might not have fit what exactly they were looking for as a description.

[OceanEyes28]

Just because some (not all) guys want to see girls making out doesn't mean it is easier for a woman to be gay. Some men do not understand the amount of objectification and disrespect the average woman has to deal with on a day to day basis. Some men even think we should lighten up and "take it as a compliment." However, it is never pleasant to feel as though your personal space could be violated at any moment. A gay woman has to deal with the same insults, only if her sexual orientation is obvious in some way, she gets that hate card thrown at her too. "Hey baby, get a good hard **** in ya, maybe change you'll your mind." "Hey dyke, you eat ***** 'cause no man would **** you?" "Hey, why don't you ladies lez out while me and my buddy **** you in your asses?"

For example.

(it is not unheard of for things that crude to be proclaimed for all to hear and enjoy)

Understand that the reason a lot of men want to see two girls making out is not because these two women are freely expressing their sexual orientation or love/affection for a partner. It's the objectification that's so popular.

EDIT: And that's only if they're attractive. If they're fugly, no one wants to see that shit, amirite, bros? imrite.