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[Taco-Calamitous]

Before I leave this topic, I just have one thing to say...

No.

Don't tell me no. Don't tell me what I should think is more important. To me, this is still a very real issue. I didn't come into this thread thinking I would change anyone's minds on the issue; I simply came into it to express my opinion, so that no one would think that that opinion is gone from the world. Furthermore, don't talk about arguing with a "young creationist," either. You aren't exactly up there in the years, yourself. You don't have all the answers yet. Your way of thinking isn't the ultimate way. Maybe you don't believe that it is, but I just have to make sure that you know, because it doesn't always seem that way with you.

I am done. Carry on! Anyhoo...

Wuv, Yer Mom

[Walter Sobchak]

Don't tell me no. Don't tell me what I should think is more important. To me, this is still a very real issue. I didn't come into this thread thinking I would change anyone's minds on the issue; I simply came into it to express my opinion, so that no one would think that that opinion is gone from the world. Furthermore, don't talk about arguing with a "young creationist," either. You aren't exactly up there in the years, yourself. You don't have all the answers yet. Your way of thinking isn't the ultimate way. Maybe you don't believe that it is, but I just have to make sure that you know, because it doesn't always seem that way with you.

Get off your high horse and read what I wrote.

Its "young-Earth creationist", not "young creationist". The line "you don't have all the answers yet" is ridiculous coming from someone who has espoused specific beliefs, and you know that. Years ago you used to be a really smart guy, and I know he is still there somewhere.

Unlike you, I have claimed knowledge of nothing. When I say that the debate of when life begins is irrelevant, I am not picking a time. Your decision to worship a very specific set of rules from a specific time period is more geared towards a perceived ownership of life's answers than mine. I accept the parameters of reality much more closely than someone who tries to reconcile facts with a religious work.

Your opinion had been voiced millions of times in millions of debates by millions of people, so don't pretend you are a crusader. You started this by quoting me and telling me I was wrong, so I have every right, and obligation, to reply with a terse "no."

My point still stands, and you haven't refuted it. Tax-funded abortions are never going to go away, even if the Republicans take back Congress and the White House. The war in Iraq is a much more tangible issue with debatable facets to discuss. You can rant about how it is murder just like I can rant that I am kept on hold too long when I call customer support, but the issue has already been decided. So why not move on to constructive thinking? Is it because it is easier to stick your head in the sand with an issue like abortion? The dumbest people on the planet have opinions about abortion because it is easy, but most people have no idea what is going on in Afghanistan or Iraq.

[Sinister]

If it's genetically unique, and it's alive...then it can be killed and arguably murdered... A choice is a choice... And I'll never have to make that one and I'll never have to worry about it's moral implications. I'm something of a libertarian, so choices/freedoms are fine. But I don't condone the act at all...and I never will. *shrugs*

-Sin