Emos

[VengefulRonin]

Oooh, another fun thread. What do you think of emos? I don't like them. But it's not their silly tight pants or vision-impairing hairstyles or uninspired music that bothers me. Nay, what bothers me is their values, I suppose you could say. All of a sudden it's cool to be depressed, write bad poetry and be a drama queen. In general, they seem to be attention-whore crybabies who blow everything out of proportion.

Highschool crush doesn't like you because your tight pants have crushed your manhood? Cut and whine about it to your equally emo friends! Mommy didn't give you an advance on your allowance so you could buy the new My Chemical Romance CD? Write fake suicide notes and tell everyone your life is terrible.

It's an entire subculture of being self-centered. Nobody's life or family is worse than yours, even if you have a plush, suburban life with parents who provide for you. It's common to see black kids at your school or workplace who work their ass off to be better off than their single parent on welfare or to help out the financial situation at home. Do you never see them writing bad poetry about it and cutting? No.

A very bad side effect emo culture has is the general mindset people gain about cutters and depressed people. Alot of people cut because they have serious problems at home, or are depressed because of issues at home or school or simply cannot help it because of chemical imbalances in the brain. Thanks to emos cutting and going all mopey and "depressed" over the most trivial reasons, truly depressed people and cutters are thrown into the category of emo and aren't taken seriously. As a side note, I'll admit it's hard to not automatically categorize someone like that as emo, but there's usually a good way of telling who's emo and who isn't: emos go around showing off their cuts and talking about how crappy things are, the truly depressed or cutters don't.

Another thing that annoys me about emo is that it's suddenly trendy to be bi. I myself am bisexual, and I think emos fail to realize what being bisexual entails and what that word means. It doesn't mean I R KISSING ANDROGYNOUS BOY I CAN PRETEND IS GRL, it means you would gladly do MUCH more with someone of the same sex.

So anyway, I'm done, I'll probably think of more later. Added a nifty poll for you guys.

[Dimi]

I have to agree with you, people who actually are depressed and do cut and have issues are considered "emo" sadly. Honestly, I think the trend will fade away and something else will be in. That's how society and high school works pretty much. Why a guy would want to wear tight pants I don't get? My package needs breathing dammit!!!!

Seriously though, I know some emos that are cool. There's several of them that are not like your typical emos but the rest of them at my school are straight up pussies. Why would someone enjoy being depressed? Seriously, it sucks being depressed all the time. But the thing that pissed me off is how some people cry and bitch over spilled milk or some shit and go cut themselves over something stupid. On top of that, some cut in places and show them off like some ****ing artwork or something. I just don't get the whole emo crap nor will I ever will.

[Priscilla]

There is not a lot of emos at my school. But there is enough for them to form their own group. That said I go to an all girls school and there are more bisexuals then straight girls. Now, I don't believe these girls are all acutally bisexual but they like the attention which is really wrong because it makes the people who are acutally bisexual look the same. Which isn't fair. Either way most of my grade have gone out with each other at some stage.

My first day of school I saw people making out behind the lockers. But apparently it was a rare thing to see then. It's common now..

I do like a lot of emo music though. But I am in no way emo. I have a lot of emo friends and as long as they don't act depressed and tell me how bad their life is. I'm fine with it. If they acutally do have real problems however i'm more then happy to listen.

[VengefulRonin]

I have to agree with you, people who actually are depressed and do cut and have issues are considered "emo" sadly. Honestly, I think the trend will fade away and something else will be in. That's how society and high school works pretty much. Why a guy would want to wear tight pants I don't get? My package needs breathing dammit!!!!

Exactly. And there's a biological reason why the scrotum exists and keeps the testicles away from the body.

Seriously though, I know some emos that are cool. There's several of them that are not like your typical emos but the rest of them at my school are straight up pussies. Why would someone enjoy being depressed? Seriously, it sucks being depressed all the time.

They're probably not true emos then, and just like the fashion xD As for why they enjoy being depressed, as I said, they are attention whores and drama queens. They WANT the attention, they are SELFISH and like to wallow in self-pity because it focuses on themselves and prevents them from having to look at others' problems. It's simply a way to shield themselves from the real world.

There is not a lot of emos at my school. But there is enough for them to form their own group. That said I go to an all girls school and there are more bisexuals then straight girls. Now, I don't believe these girls are all acutally bisexual but they like the attention which is really wrong because it makes the people who are acutally bisexual look the same. Which isn't fair. Either way most of my grade have gone out with each other at some stage.

Totally shoulda mentioned that. Emo gives bisexuality a bad name too, just like it does real cutters or people with clinical depression.

[Calcifer]

Oooh, another fun thread. What do you think of emos? I don't like them. But it's not their silly tight pants or vision-impairing hairstyles or uninspired music that bothers me. Nay, what bothers me is their values, I suppose you could say. All of a sudden it's cool to be depressed, write bad poetry and be a drama queen. In general, they seem to be attention-whore crybabies who blow everything out of proportion.

Highschool crush doesn't like you because your tight pants have crushed your manhood? Cut and whine about it to your equally emo friends! Mommy didn't give you an advance on your allowance so you could buy the new My Chemical Romance CD? Write fake suicide notes and tell everyone your life is terrible.

It's an entire subculture of being self-centered. Nobody's life or family is worse than yours, even if you have a plush, suburban life with parents who provide for you. It's common to see black kids at your school or workplace who work their ass off to be better off than their single parent on welfare or to help out the financial situation at home. Do you never see them writing bad poetry about it and cutting? No.

A very bad side effect emo culture has is the general mindset people gain about cutters and depressed people. Alot of people cut because they have serious problems at home, or are depressed because of issues at home or school or simply cannot help it because of chemical imbalances in the brain. Thanks to emos cutting and going all mopey and "depressed" over the most trivial reasons, truly depressed people and cutters are thrown into the category of emo and aren't taken seriously. As a side note, I'll admit it's hard to not automatically categorize someone like that as emo, but there's usually a good way of telling who's emo and who isn't: emos go around showing off their cuts and talking about how crappy things are, the truly depressed or cutters don't.

Another thing that annoys me about emo is that it's suddenly trendy to be bi. I myself am bisexual, and I think emos fail to realize what being bisexual entails and what that word means. It doesn't mean I R KISSING ANDROGYNOUS BOY I CAN PRETEND IS GRL, it means you would gladly do MUCH more with someone of the same sex.

So anyway, I'm done, I'll probably think of more later. Added a nifty poll for you guys.

I couldn't agree with you less. Thanks for the entertaining and surprisingly accurately post. I personally can't stand them. Their are real people who need help.. these other sad people who make and turn everything into problems just for attention need to get over themselves and grow up.

[Sinister]

"Emos are people too" That's my catchphrase for my unsuccessful campaign.

I suppose as a Goth, I have cause to point at Emos more than anyone and bellow defiantly: "WHINY LITTLE COPYCAT BITCHES, I'LL SKULL**** YOU ON GENERAL PRINCIPLE!!!"

But I don't. Many of my friends are self-confessed emos. The truth is, they can be whiny, they can be too full of self-loathing and if they stayed that way all their years on earth someone should prolly just shoot them. But it is a phase, they eventually make a recovery if they live long enough.

The whole "Bi" Emo thing doesn't really bother me all that much I guess. Part of the subculture. To be honest, Goths do that to a point too, I've noticed(having been hit on by too many guys whilst clubbing).

The only thing...and I really mean only(cause on all other levels I couldn't care less) that makes me get nauseated at Emos, are how much people get them confused with goths. Cause Goths can tell the difference even if you can't. It's a mindset people. Not that many goths show up in ugly plaid weepy-eyed crying into their own beers, sticking themselves with safety pins and then snogging with eachother in the backroom...no-no-no...That's just a different subculture.

They listen to Coheed and Cambria we listen to Skinny Puppy. There's a marked difference.


That aside... Emos just are a fact of life. Some of them can turn out to be handy friends. Some wind up bitter weepy assholes.

[VengefulRonin]

I suppose as a Goth, I have cause to point at Emos more than anyone and bellow defiantly: "WHINY LITTLE COPYCAT BITCHES, I'LL SKULL**** YOU ON GENERAL PRINCIPLE!!!"

Damn you. I was drinking tea and that actually made me lawl. Not a good time to be lawling.

Many of my friends are self-confessed emos. The truth is, they can be whiny, they can be too full of self-loathing and if they stayed that way all their years on earth someone should prolly just shoot them. But it is a phase, they eventually make a recovery if they live long enough.

I know a guy here in town (keep in mind, I live in Tennessee), he's 24, probably the perfect example of an emo. He doesn't dress it, doesn't listen to emo music, he used to play alot of American football and he's a gamer too...but my god he's pathetic, he's never grown out of the phase. He constantly complains and feels sorry for himself because his relationships with girls never work out. He freaking fell in love with a 17 year old chick in Minnesota a few months ago, for crying out loud. He acts like failed relationships are the entirety of his life and as such, it's been a terrible life made of fail for him. I finally stopped talking to him because I got tired of hearing his whining.

That is what pisses me off about emos. As the saying goes, they make mountains out of molehills. There are people out there worse off than you who don't complain half as much, so get a grip on life. Relationships aren't everything, mommy and daddy not letting you go somewhere isn't everything.

The only thing...and I really mean only(cause on all other levels I couldn't care less) that makes me get nauseated at Emos, are how much people get them confused with goths. Cause Goths can tell the difference even if you can't. It's a mindset people. Not that many goths show up in ugly plaid weepy-eyed crying into their own beers, sticking themselves with safety pins and then snogging with eachother in the backroom...no-no-no...That's just a different subculture.

I have noticed there is alot of ignorance on that front. Some people think emos are a subdivision of goths, others think they're simply the depressed version of goths. Honestly, I always thought goths were WAY more level-headed people than emos (except those poser mall goths). There's a "friend" I have, he's an uber fundamental Christian and a preacher boy (I keep him around for teh lulz basically), on several occasions he's asked me what "goth" is...and like you said, it's a mindset, so I've never really been able to give him a good definition. Sadly, my inability to define it has led him to think that simply wearing a black t-shirt and black khakis makes him goth...

They listen to Coheed and Cambria we listen to Skinny Puppy. There's a marked difference.

j00 MEEN gOthS dnt liStin 2 cRaDle ov FiLtH and sLiPkNoT?! Haha, oddly enough I just watched that Skinny Puppy vid in your siggy, pretty freaky video. I actually might keep that video so I can use it for lulz on that preacher boy I know, thank god for 4chan making me immune to everything.

[Sinister]

I know a guy here in town (keep in mind, I live in Tennessee), he's 24, probably the perfect example of an emo. He doesn't dress it, doesn't listen to emo music, he used to play alot of American football and he's a gamer too...but my god he's pathetic, he's never grown out of the phase. He constantly complains and feels sorry for himself because his relationships with girls never work out. He freaking fell in love with a 17 year old chick in Minnesota a few months ago, for crying out loud. He acts like failed relationships are the entirety of his life and as such, it's been a terrible life made of fail for him. I finally stopped talking to him because I got tired of hearing his whining.

That is what pisses me off about emos. As the saying goes, they make mountains out of molehills. There are people out there worse off than you who don't complain half as much, so get a grip on life. Relationships aren't everything, mommy and daddy not letting you go somewhere isn't everything.

That's kind of sad and frightening about that guy. But that's more like the evolutionary stage of an emo, or better yet, someone who is too concerned with problems. There are results from philosophies. That's one of the many outcomes of a self-loathing mindset. A more unfortunate example. But to be emo, one would have to have the hair...listen to the music..I.E. all that makes an emo an emo.

The mountain out of molehill is just a way of dealing with things. Some people express frustration by focusing it in, some by focusing it out and others just decide not to deal with it and just bear it.

I have noticed there is alot of ignorance on that front. Some people think emos are a subdivision of goths, others think they're simply the depressed version of goths. Honestly, I always thought goths were WAY more level-headed people than emos (except those poser mall goths). There's a "friend" I have, he's an uber fundamental Christian and a preacher boy (I keep him around for teh lulz basically), on several occasions he's asked me what "goth" is...and like you said, it's a mindset, so I've never really been able to give him a good definition. Sadly, my inability to define it has led him to think that simply wearing a black t-shirt and black khakis makes him goth...

I hate it. Seriously. Goths are some of the most emotionally stable(just not generally mentally stable) people in the cosmos. You are talking about people who wish the Night of the Living Dead would happen and work out escape scenarios versus people who let their emotions master them. Goths tend to let their emotions wash over them, it may leave them a little bleached-out feeling.

As for the poser syndrome. Pathetic in a very endearing way. My motto, bring a poser to a club. That usually sorts them.

j00 MEEN gOthS dnt liStin 2 cRaDle ov FiLtH and sLiPkNoT?!

Omg, I laughed and woke my roomie. You strike back.

Haha, oddly enough I just watched that Skinny Puppy vid in your siggy, pretty freaky video. I actually might keep that video so I can use it for lulz on that preacher boy I know, thank god for 4chan making me immune to everything.

Yea, good video that. They played it at a club and I found the vid. It could put a poser in his/her place, I imagine.







But in all seriousness, labels aren't people and vice versa. All the goths and all the emos aren't set aside from each other by iron rules. And sometimes the lines are blurry. Some people might be able to get away with both classifications and in the end probably none of it really matters... BUT...There are fundamental differences in what is generally held to be the defining differences and as long as the world views the word Emo as synonymous with weepy big-haired self-mutilating plaid-wearers(whether true or not) I must protest that an Emo is NOT a Goth.

[ChloChloAriadne]

Okay.. Personally, I hate the word Emo. An 80's music genre gone horribly wrong and blown out of proportion, I think.

And while we're on that.. Mistaken music taste. Fall Out Boy is not emo. It is generic Pop-punk. There is nothing wrong with that at all. It is simply not emo. Same situation with My Chemical Romance, The Hot Lies and Good Charlotte. Not emo.

The fashion taste... I don't have any quarrels with that whatsoever. The tight jeans, the hair, the makeup, the piercings... It's just a fashion sence. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. I quite like the look of it on some people, actually. Can look great when done right. Plus, eyeliner and skinny jeans look good on pretty much everybody >.>

Okay.. The self-mutilation. This I have huge issues with. I find that it's simply a massive mockery of those that do cut or have cut themselves. The fake depression, along with that. The 'emos' that sit and cut in public, claiming it's because their life sucks.. Look, some people do that legitimately. But most of the 'emo's don't. And it annoys me that they're trying to imitate and making a mockery of something that they haven't felt.

Also, the bisexuality.. It's destroyed the rights of people that actually are bisexual without trying to seek attention. I am bisexual myself, and it pisses me off that any time I even imply a slight attraction to the same sex I'm passed off as an 'emo attention seeker', because of these people creating that image. I've been bisexual all my life and yet I wasn't branded an attention seeker until the whole 'emo' revolution in the past couple of years. Coincidence? I think not.

[Furore]

I made a 'my chemical romance' of delight in my pants when I read through all this.

Yeah, we have the trendy sorts here, who're still fairly cool and don't really act all hardcore emo, they just dress like it. And then those other kinds...
But quite frankly, the ones who slit themselves up and stuff I don't mind so much. Because they have the balls to do it. The ones I REALLY dislike, are the posers who act like they either have or will slit their wrists but never would, the ones who brag about their emo ways but have no hope of delivering... Phonies...
Oh and those other twats with awesome family, good friends and some sweet dinero to go around, who still insist on being depressed all the time. Their lives ain't so bad...

To conclude, let's just post all those ones to some third world country in exchange for people who'd appreciate the kind of lifestyle we are privileged to have here. It'll mean... LESS DEPRESSION FOR ALL!

[Jin]

I utterly despise these topics. Leave these damn kids alone. Jesus tap dancing Christ, the only thing more trendy than being emo is making fun of emo kids. Relax about it. Doesn't anyone find the constant whining "I hate emos" to be utterly hypocritical? You're whining that people whine. Sub cultures will do what sub cultures do; you can dislike it, fine, but for God's sake, people go out of their way to pick on and or actually physically abuse emo kids. This is supposed to make them less depressed?

On a aesthetic note, emo kids are pretty.

[darkViVi]

This is supposed to make them less depressed?

Who the **** cares? Let them go home and cut themselves, maybe if we're lucky they'll get an infection and die. In pain, I'd like that.

This is not a culture, even though some may call it one. They are all self obsessed brats that needs to learn how to deal with life. So grow the hell up, kidz.

[Storm]

I have no problem with emos. As far as I see it they don't do anything wrong to me or anybody I know and do not prowl the streets mugging people so I don't really see what the hatred against them is. I have a couple of friends who are emos and they're nice people, friendly and really genuine even if they are having a bit of a hard time. I see these people as genuine emos, not the stereotypical "i cut myself and am forever moping" types. To be honest i've seen very few of the latter type, although that may because UK emos are different from US emos, afterall it is an adopted cult. The few who do the whole emo thing for attention and because its fashionable, then I think that is stupid, but if people genrally feel unhappy about situations, I see it no different than freedom of expression. Just as goths and punks are the way they are. Even if it is just for the fashion, theres a lot of other music-related fashions so I dont see why emos are mocked so much. I don't see their fashion as an eyesore, although I really don't like emo music. The faux-bisexuality? To be honest I've never really noticed, though I do see it very perculiar to pretend to have sexual preferences that yo udon't naturally have. I can't see myself snogging someone of the same sex to look "cool", but then again people do weird stuff to fit in! I'm proud to be me whether people like me or not! I actually see that being yourself seems to be becoming a rare thing, that or many people are really arrogant.

Overall though, I dont see emos as a problem at all. Chavs on the other hand (emos enemy here in the UK, for those who are unfamiliar with the term they are wannabee gangster yuppies who commit stupid crimes are noisy and mouth off at anything that moves) I see as a group who desrve to be disliked.

[Govinda]

...it's teenagers following a new fashion trend. Big whoop.

They leave me be, I leave them be. End of.

[Chez Daja]

These kinds of topics annoy me.

But for the sake of opinion, I dislike the trend. The music is a load of shit, in my opinion. The fashion trend is HORRIBLE...

Thankfully, it'll disappear eventually. People grow up, they get over it, newer generations begin with the same trend, but the trends do go away... Some just take longer than others to disappear.

I did know an emo girl in college. She wore sensible, non-emo clothes, but she enjoyed the music, and she wore a lot of eyeliner and had dark hair with a few light streaks in it. She was honest and was open about being in the emo trend, so I respected her for it.

Her taste in men, though! My God... Nathan and I laughed at her for eyeing this bloke in skinny jeans up. She wasn't insulted, though.

I dislike all trends. I know a lot of gothic people, but I generally don't spend a lot of time with them. I prefer the witty, undefined type of people.

HOWEVER. This isn't to say I don't talk to allsorts. I do, I just tend to get along better with people like myself.

[Angantyr]

Emo girls are sometimes hot, the problem is you can't really tell if they have a penis or a vagina.

The whole bisexual thing annoys me to no end, the whole "lesbians are f*cking hot" is grossly over exaggerated. Most girls who claim to be bi are lets just say the bottom of the barrel hence taking such measures in the first place. No guys want them so they'll go to girls etc...

Everybodies depressed these days and its annoying, nobody takes me seriously and think its self-loathing, attention whoring. I'm not going to make a plea for people to recognize I am ****ed up but I think most of these emo kids are screwing things up for those people who are serious by making it look like a joke.

[VengefulRonin]

Okay.. Personally, I hate the word Emo. An 80's music genre gone horribly wrong and blown out of proportion, I think.

And while we're on that.. Mistaken music taste. Fall Out Boy is not emo. It is generic Pop-punk. There is nothing wrong with that at all. It is simply not emo. Same situation with My Chemical Romance, The Hot Lies and Good Charlotte. Not emo.

Mistaken music taste stems from fusing genres and idiot stores like FYE classifying Fort Minor as "nu-metal" when they are clearly hip hop. I did think MCR was emo though, but that's simply because they dress the style and seem to be emos' favoritest band EVAR. Good Charlotte emo? No, pop-punk. What I find really stupid is the people calling Linkin Park emo now. To me, emo music would be pity me music that focuses on how some girl left you and you can't get over her.

The fashion taste... I don't have any quarrels with that whatsoever. The tight jeans, the hair, the makeup, the piercings... It's just a fashion sence. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. I quite like the look of it on some people, actually. Can look great when done right. Plus, eyeliner and skinny jeans look good on pretty much everybody >.>

I find the fashion rather silly, but it's not as godawful as 80's fashion, so I really don't care.

Okay.. The self-mutilation. This I have huge issues with. I find that it's simply a massive mockery of those that do cut or have cut themselves. The fake depression, along with that. The 'emos' that sit and cut in public, claiming it's because their life sucks.. Look, some people do that legitimately. But most of the 'emo's don't. And it annoys me that they're trying to imitate and making a mockery of something that they haven't felt.

They sport their cuts like trophies, it's rather sickening. They cut in the bathrooms at school, they post a bajillion pictures of their cuts on Myspace...it's like wtf do you want from me? You want me to say you're a badass for having a high pain tolerance? You want me to pity you because your middle-class life is just soooo hard and emotionally distressing that you have to cut yourself? No. Most ridiculous trend ever. And again I shall say, real cutters with real problems generally try to hide their cuts.

Also, the bisexuality.. It's destroyed the rights of people that actually are bisexual without trying to seek attention. I am bisexual myself, and it pisses me off that any time I even imply a slight attraction to the same sex I'm passed off as an 'emo attention seeker', because of these people creating that image. I've been bisexual all my life and yet I wasn't branded an attention seeker until the whole 'emo' revolution in the past couple of years. Coincidence? I think not.

Same. I generally don't like to admit it except to close friends for fear of being mistaken for an emo.

To conclude, let's just post all those ones to some third world country in exchange for people who'd appreciate the kind of lifestyle we are privileged to have here. It'll mean... LESS DEPRESSION FOR ALL!

A toast to a brilliant idea!

Who the **** cares? Let them go home and cut themselves, maybe if we're lucky they'll get an infection and die. In pain, I'd like that.

I like you xD

Overall though, I dont see emos as a problem at all. Chavs on the other hand (emos enemy here in the UK, for those who are unfamiliar with the term they are wannabee gangster yuppies who commit stupid crimes are noisy and mouth off at anything that moves) I see as a group who desrve to be disliked.

THANK YOU! Finally someone who explains wtf a chav is! They sound like wiggers >_<

[Ayse]

I utterly despise these topics. Leave these damn kids alone. Jesus tap dancing Christ, the only thing more trendy than being emo is making fun of emo kids. Relax about it. Doesn't anyone find the constant whining "I hate emos" to be utterly hypocritical? You're whining that people whine. Sub cultures will do what sub cultures do; you can dislike it, fine, but for God's sake, people go out of their way to pick on and or actually physically abuse emo kids. This is supposed to make them less depressed?

On a aesthetic note, emo kids are pretty.

Thank bloody god someone said it for me.

But I do have to admit I don't think skinny jeans look good on ANYONE, doesn't matter what gender or "social category" you're from.

[ChloChloAriadne]

Harmonise - Haha. I love the skinny jeans, I find they tend to suit people alot. That's just me, though. Admittedly I barely ever wear them becaucse.. That's simply just not my style. But yeah, they look good.

Sinister - Thank you! Emo is NOT goth. At all. Ever. Period. >.>. I don't tend to classify myself as much as other people classify me, but I would certainly consider myself more Goth than emo and I'm sick of people getting it the other way around. IMO, they are two of the most distanced things around.. Of course, you do get some people that cross the line a bit and are 'both', but yeah.. Completely different.

Celtic - To me, the posers that cut and the posers that don't cut are the same thing.. It's all attention seeking, a mockery of the people that do/have cut but NOT to fit in with the emo genre. I self-harmed for years and although I've stopped now it's something I hid for a long time and am still ashamed of... It sickens me to see people showing off their wounds this way.

[Jin]

Who the **** cares? Let them go home and cut themselves, maybe if we're lucky they'll get an infection and die. In pain, I'd like that.

I'm not suggesting you care. I'm suggesting you not be a twat and find something better to do than rip on kids that already have low self esteems. It's like a teenager picking on a 5 year old. Grow up.

The whole bisexual thing annoys me to no end, the whole "lesbians are f*cking hot" is grossly over exaggerated. Most girls who claim to be bi are lets just say the bottom of the barrel hence taking such measures in the first place. No guys want them so they'll go to girls etc...

That is the most ignorant comment I've heard from you in a while.

Everybodies depressed these days and its annoying, nobody takes me seriously and think its self-loathing, attention whoring. I'm not going to make a plea for people to recognize I am ****ed up but I think most of these emo kids are screwing things up for those people who are serious by making it look like a joke.

Every emo kid and the majority of teenagers/young adults think they're messed up. Sorry, but the fact that it bothers you that people ignore your supposed depression does indeed sound like attention seeking.

[.07]

I know full well the trend will die out but that doesn't stop me disliking emo's. I think living with a bunch of emo kids and university last year didn't really help and that across the road from where I live is the bige emo club in the city...I ain't too keen on the music either, never mind the fashion and ideals that go with it.

[darkViVi]

I'm not suggesting you care. I'm suggesting you not be a twat and find something better to do than rip on kids that already have low self esteems. It's like a teenager picking on a 5 year old. Grow up.

**** no.

I'm gonna keep on doing it until they either kill themselves or realize how retarded they are. I am doing it becasue they are weak, and that's another thing they need to realize. If they keep it up they will end up dead or like pathetic junkies simply becasue they can't deal with reality.

Life is not easy but being all emo about everything wont make it easier.

'nuff said.

[.07]

It's worth poiting out that the majority of emo's are unlikely to be depressed about anything anyways if that makes you feel any better...it probably doesn't.

I've yet to meet a depressed emo in my time anyways, a miserable one yes, depressed no.

[darkViVi]

It's worth poiting out that the majority of emo's are unlikely to be depressed about anything anyways if that makes you feel any better...it probably doesn't.

I've yet to meet a depressed emo in my time anyways, a miserable one yes, depressed no.

You're right, it doesn't.

EDIT: Ok.. emos that arent depressed about everything and doesnt cut themselves, Iwouldn't mind them all that much, apart from that gay music and lame haircuts... But I'm not gonna force them to look halfway normal or listen to real music...

[Angantyr]

That is the most excellent comment I've heard from you in a while.

>fix'd

Every emo kid and the majority of teenagers/young adults think they're messed up. Sorry, but the fact that it bothers you that people ignore your supposed depression does indeed sound like attention seeking.

Now this is clearly an ignorant assumption; there problems are stuff EVERYBODY has to deal with. Ask anybody who has talked to me; do I make a huge whine about it?

Here's something you may not understand, ever hear of an emotional dumpster? I always end up being one, people are upset and they come to me with their problems and I tell them I understand and try to help. But do I have my own Emotional Dumpster? No, everytime I bring it up they either completely ignore me or think I'm over exaggerating! Does this make it worse? No I deal with it, I learned that nobody cares when I talk like that and it just makes me look worse. From what I gather you assume that only emo's and teenagers are allowed to be depressed and have problems; like they've got everything wrong with them. I know what their problems are like, typical boring teenage drama everybody deals with. And no: I don't ****ing hate them for it: but don't you ****ing tell me because I have shit I have to deal with and expect a little understanding that I am a stupid ****ing attention whore. Let me tell you, I went through all the same shit; I had no friends, Im ugly as hell and everybody thinks I'm a psychopath, I had a messed up childhood which I won't go into details with and I can assure you that the majority of these kids have nothing on me. If you seriously think I am being an attention whore then you are the most clueless person I have ever met.

I'm not whining about their problems, I am pretty much telling them to cheer the **** up and enjoy shit. There are always people out there who a worse than you, I used to speak to a guy who from what he tells me is worse off than me. Whether this is true or not I don't know, but he's made an effort to do his best. The whole "Emo Scene" just represents on a large scale of just how screwed up society as a whole is, on an individual scale it's probably just something to do with the fact its all these kids know but if that is true somebody needs to change it and stop the idea of "Depression is cool" to stop plaguing society.

[Jin]

**** no.

I'm gonna keep on doing it until they either kill themselves or realize how retarded they are. I am doing it becasue they are weak, and that's another thing they need to realize. If they keep it up they will end up dead or like pathetic junkies simply becasue they can't deal with reality.

Life is not easy but being all emo about everything wont make it easier.

'nuff said.

Who are you? Ayn Rand? Are you trying to seem selfless or hardcore? Either way you sound ridiculous. Teenagers of every generation can't deal with reality. They all eventually learn or fail. It doesn't matter if they're emo or someone that will be complaining about them on an internet forum when they're 26. They don't need your help. Or scorn. Whatever you're trying to do.

Winter, I don't care what your problems are. And I didn't assume; I said that it sounds like you're attention seeking. You aren't proving me wrong by giving me an example as to why you are legitimately depressed. My point is that everyone thinks their problems are more important than others. That's normal.

[Walter Sobchak]

This thread has a lot of stupidity flying around. What is emo? Really? Because a lot of what has been said in here is stupid.

Its nothing real. Its a fashion trend in the 2000's, and a genre of music from long ago. Why is anyone acting differently towards it?

Being a teenager in modern society is awkward. Most of us are still in that phase. We all pick different social groups, even if we can't admit it.

Raikkonen, you are old enough to know its just a trend. You should be saying this, not me or anyone else.

[ultima_trev]

OMGWTFBBQ, I TOTTALLY WUFFLES DA EMO MUZIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I <3 it so much and I also <3 slitting my wrists. I can't handle the fact my g/f broke up w/ me, but slitting my wrists and listening to My Chemical Romance makes all the pain go AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. I also <3 crystal meth 'n' LSD

[darkViVi]

This thread is amusing. Let me point that out. Now off to the quotes...

Who are you? Ayn Rand? Are you trying to seem selfless or hardcore? Either way you sound ridiculous. Teenagers of every generation can't deal with reality. They all eventually learn or fail. It doesn't matter if they're emo or someone that will be complaining about them on an internet forum when they're 26. They don't need your help. Or scorn. Whatever you're trying to do.

Jin, teenagers of every generation can't deal with reality? Really? I can't remember anyone from my generation and 3 different schools who had problems with that.

BTW who the **** is Ayn Rand? It's not me, no.

Raikkonen, you are old enough to know its just a trend

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. It is annoying. Temporary or not, they are annoying kidz who look stupid with those dumb haircuts, just look at Jin

Geez, you sound like some school yard bully

Now, that made me laugh out really loud.

Geez, you sound like some school yard bully. How old are you? 10? I have to agree with Jintatsu on this one. Like he stated Teenagers of every generation can't deal with reality.

People I went to school with could.. what's so different? If someone can't deal with reality they better learn how to, instead of having gay hair/arm cuts and just wining about crap going on in their life. Or they are screwed.

If something is wrong, do something about it, dont cry about it. Crying or cutting doesn't help jack shit.
That's pretty much my point.

[VengefulRonin]

Holy christ, this topic turned ugly and n00bish O_O I was hoping to keep things nice and civil, now it's a flame war.

Jin, teenagers of every generation can't deal with reality? Really? I can't remember anyone from my generation and 3 different schools who had problems with that.

No, he's right. Hippies had their LSD, kids today have their emoness and sports and videogames. Entertainment itself is a way to distract yourself from reality when you don't want to deal with it. Being emo is just the most self-centered way of doing it, because in sports or videogames (and even drugs, I guess) you can at least enjoy them with other people...with emoness it's just wallowing in self pity and whining about how crap things are to your emo friends (or maybe that's actually enjoyable for emos).

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. It is annoying. Temporary or not, they are annoying kidz who look stupid with those dumb haircuts, just look at Jin

Goddamn, my topic de-evolved into childing flaming. *sigh* I really did just want this to be a nice civil discussion/debate on why people like or dislike emos.

People I went to school with could.. what's so different? If someone can't deal with reality they better learn how to, instead of having gay hair/arm cuts and just wining about crap going on in their life. Or they are screwed.

If the hair styles bother you that much, you might wanna consider help. Their attitudes toward life are what bothers me. I think their fashion is rather silly, but it doesn't piss me off. The fashion itself really has nothing to do with being a whiny, angsty kid anyway (except the poser cuts to show how emotionally distraught you are)...it's just...trendy.

If something is wrong, do something about it, dont cry about it. Crying or cutting doesn't help jack shit.
That's pretty much my point.

There could have been better ways of stating it. Now my topic is a cesspool.