The breast thread!

[Cheesevixen]

I like slutty looking girls that normally appear in porns......I prefer blonds over brunettes.....big boobs, but not ridiculously huge......nice apple butt.....tanish skin, but not tropical tan...more like.....not paper white tan. I hate women from my own experiences so usually my attraction toward them is based purely on them acting like little slootaronies ^^.

[Alpha]

I'm not going to quote anyone, but I'll try supply a response.

I'm not really offended by this per se, and I, like most guys, do partake in discussion about what we like, physically, in girls.

My issue is just that there are many people who do not view themselves as being particularly attractive, and can anyone suggest a reason for this? I think it is because so often do we (and by 'we' I am implying males, but this is not solely the case) state what a girl 'should' look like. Yes it comes down to taste. Yes we all like different people. Etc. But can you notice a consensus already? It's that girls 'should' be within a certain weight.

If someone weighs 100kg because of an eating disorder, (or not), they still have a right to feel beautiful, and discussions such as these can damage such perceptions. Hence, Rags, I'm still being my liberal self here: we all have a right to just be ourselves and be tolerated for it - implicitly and explicitly.

Being attracted to someone isn't being shallow. I'm attracted to my girlfriend. I do have a problem with discussion that creates a consensus of exclusion. Has anyone come out and said they are attracted to plus-size girls? No, not really. So are they still beautiful? I suppose that's opinion, but they shouldn't be told that they aren't when they can't do much about it.

And yes, I'm commenting on the thread itself, because I just don't agree with this one. Discretion is important.

@Nix: How am I taking this personally? I didn't say "I'm overweight, please stop talking." I said, "someone is liable to be offended, are you sure this is the right place to hold such a discussion".

Meh, that's just my two cents. Go ahead, disagree, I know you want to

[Angantyr]

Oingo Boing put it best: I like little girls they make me feel so good, I like little girls they make me feel so bad.

I've never been strict about what I like, though plain generally is the least attractive to me. I'm not a fan of big bimbo blondes though chubby blondes can be cute as are nerdy small ones. I think brunettes make the best taller females as they often tend to have the most perfect shaped jugs. Redheads however often tend to have the biggest melons like my ex and a lot of the time they have a nice ass to go with it but they have the least desirable faces. Chubby is fine if you have the cute face to pull it off, in fact a lot of chubbier girls would look amazing if they just lost a little bit. A lot of guys have a chubby fetish but girls... not so much.

Boobs are not for everybody otherwise Asian fetishes wouldn't be so common. Perky is fine, handfuls big enough to caress but small enough to hold is probably my ideal. Small and perky for me. Yup.

[Maridia]

People got it all wrong. As much as boobs are peachy there's better areas. Keep things in check I figure. Can't say triple Z's (I'm just gonna say it's the most uber size) would look good on anyone as would nothing at all.

People can always debate it's crude to go off of looks. Which I agree to an extent you have to look deeper. BUT if you can't get it up it's dead before it really began. I've never seen a man or woman look at a hobo and go "****, now his personality is just killer I gotta jump those bones!".

As for what I like alot of types and shapes work. My favorite would have to be slender and taller with shoulder length hair. Eye color and hair color can vary. Booty all the way though. I've never understood gawking over a girls chest but if she's got a cutie booty, then it's ftw.

And maybe it's just me but I only find white girls attractive. Some people really love latina or asian girls. Just never does it for me. Go figure.

[Che]

I'm not going to quote anyone, but I'll try supply a response.

I'm not really offended by this per se, and I, like most guys, do partake in discussion about what we like, physically, in girls.

My issue is just that there are many people who do not view themselves as being particularly attractive, and can anyone suggest a reason for this? I think it is because so often do we (and by 'we' I am implying males, but this is not solely the case) state what a girl 'should' look like. Yes it comes down to taste. Yes we all like different people. Etc. But can you notice a consensus already? It's that girls 'should' be within a certain weight.

If someone weighs 100kg because of an eating disorder, (or not), they still have a right to feel beautiful, and discussions such as these can damage such perceptions. Hence, Rags, I'm still being my liberal self here: we all have a right to just be ourselves and be tolerated for it - implicitly and explicitly.

Being attracted to someone isn't being shallow. I'm attracted to my girlfriend. I do have a problem with discussion that creates a consensus of exclusion. Has anyone come out and said they are attracted to plus-size girls? No, not really. So are they still beautiful? I suppose that's opinion, but they shouldn't be told that they aren't when they can't do much about it.

And yes, I'm commenting on the thread itself, because I just don't agree with this one. Discretion is important.

@Nix: How am I taking this personally? I didn't say "I'm overweight, please stop talking." I said, "someone is liable to be offended, are you sure this is the right place to hold such a discussion".

Meh, that's just my two cents. Go ahead, disagree, I know you want to

Everything you just said was the most homosexual thing I've ever read.

[Alpha]

Everything you just said was the most homosexual thing I've ever read.

Hey now! Sure, maybe the line where I said "I'm not really offended by this per se, and I, like most guys, do partake in discussion about what we like, physically, in girls." was a bit, but that's beside the point.

My point is that this is just pure, unadulterated, objectification of women! Change this topic to what race and religion you like your girls to be, and see the results:

"I only like white, Christian girls. I really hate Jewish, Muslim, and black girls." Sure, maybe I exaggerated it and/or took it out of context, but the logic remains. I'm a conscientious objector to this thread.

I believe I just read one about race a second ago. Here we are:

And maybe it's just me but I only find white girls attractive. Some people really love latina or asian girls. Just never does it for me. Go figure.

I mean come on!

[Che]

Do you think sharks really want to **** bald eagles? I mean come on.

[nix]

@Nix: How am I taking this personally?

Is it just me, or it this borderline offensive? I don't really like all this talk of what "is" too thin, or too fat.

If you aren't offended then i encourage you to refrain from declaring so, just to avoid any unnecessary confusion.

Do you think sharks really want to **** bald eagles? I mean come on.

rofl

[Alpha]

If you aren't offended then i encourage you to refrain from declaring so, just to avoid any unnecessary confusion.

Finding something 'generally offensive' and 'personally offensive' are different things. I would find it generally offensive to see a racist comment, but personally offensive if they were directed at me. Subtle.

[RagnaToad]

@ Alpha:

So you're basically saying that we can all have our opinions and share them as long as someone finds a fat chick attractive?

Pardon me French, but that's pretty idiotic. So far, I haven't seen a lot of patterns in terms of what kind of girls people like. Not that anything would be wrong with that.

And what's wrong with liking a certain ethnicity?

I really don't understand why you're being so sensitive about this one...

[Pete]

His girlfriend is probably over his shoulder right now.

On the same topic as Maridia, I'm gonna have to agree. In general, I don't find non-white girls attractive. Now, there are some girls who are the exception, like Beyonce and Eva Longoria, but that's about it.

And as for religion, uh, I'm not gonna say it's a matter of attraction, but when things come to a relationship, you'd expect religion to have some role in things. I've dated a Jewish girl once, huge titties, it was great. However, nothing really got off the ground because she knew her parents would freak out if they knew I was Catholic. So, long story short, I'm not gonna deal with Jewish girls just because I don't need the hassle and secrecy. The same goes with Muslim chicks. Just, no thanks.

Give me a nice Irish or Italian girl any day. I'll be quite happy.

[Cheesevixen]

My issue is just that there are many people who do not view themselves as being particularly attractive, and can anyone suggest a reason for this? I think it is because so often do we (and by 'we' I am implying males, but this is not solely the case) state what a girl 'should' look like. Yes it comes down to taste. Yes we all like different people. Etc. But can you notice a consensus already? It's that girls 'should' be within a certain weight.

I usually don't jump into these, but as a women that is currently over weight. I have no problem with men forming an opinion even though it doesn't suit me. Sure, I am 9 months pregnant, but every girl at this stage of pregnancy will tell you they feel the same insecurity as someone who is "obese".

With my personal outlook on this.....to be offended by this little site exclaiming that we like our girls to be healthy is to be offended by every Dr.'s journal and health website on the wide web. Not to be mean to those who are obese/underweight, but it isn't a good thing to be under/overweight. Whether you get play in your panties or not is not the issue. I don't blame men for wanting to be with someone who is healthy. Health, whether you like it or not, does have a weight range. the primal parts of men are typically geared in finding a mate that can have the healthiest children....that's not typically someone who is under/over weight. That's just science.

I make awesome babies BTW

[Fluffy]

What's wrong with stating your attraction to only a certain race?

I find most races attractive, but only an extremely small amount of black women are attractive to me. It's not like I hate black people. But most black women just won't do it for me. It's not their fault, and I couldn't say it's my fault, either. It's just how it is.

And umm... breasts. Well they're not something I focus on, really. I like them to match the body, though. Not too big. If a woman is larger, not too small. Which most times will be the case, I would think. There are some shapes I would say are more attractive than others, but I don't think I could describe it very well. Don't like fake ones. A flat chest is fine, too.

I prefer a pretty face above most things. Breasts can catch my attention, because they're often pretty hard to miss. But a pretty face can catch it and hold it.

I normally don't find blondes attractive, but I like all other natural hair colors. An exception to the blonde thing is when it comes to younger girls. Redheads are pretty hot, and I especially like when they have a more pale skin. Brunettes are overall what I find most attractive, though.

I generally prefer very small stature, but a lot of really tall girls are great. Average stature is probably what I find most boring.

Weight isn't a big issue for me as long as you're not either way too skinny or way too fat. Average is best here.

Nudity: I prefer women to look like women. Hair please~.

And umm... since religion came up. Don't care, as long as you're not too into it. If you being one religion and me being another is an issue to you, then obviously that's a bad thing. I personally don't care too much usually.

P.S.: Pregnant women are hot, too~.

[Musashiden]

Personally, I like a big ass. Provided that said ass doesn't come with a big gut to go with it. Stick thin? Hell no. It's actually kinda gross. A little meat on the bones never hurt anyone.

[Strong Bad]

I don't know why I bothered reading this whole thread.

Plain and simple, No Fatties.

[Alpha]

@ Alpha:

So you're basically saying that we can all have our opinions and share them as long as someone finds a fat chick attractive?

Pardon me French, but that's pretty idiotic. So far, I haven't seen a lot of patterns in terms of what kind of girls people like. Not that anything would be wrong with that.

And what's wrong with liking a certain ethnicity?

I really don't understand why you're being so sensitive about this one...

Hmm... as this thread goes on, I am starting to reconsider my opinion. Yes, we all do prefer certain traits, be they physical, racial, religious, etc. Hell, I've only dated white Catholic girls (though weight, breast size, height, etc has varied).

I'm just expressing a concern that someone could come here, with a negative self perception, and possibly an eating disorder, and decide that guys don't like what they are.

It's not a matter of someone being fat, getting told it, and losing weight. Firstly I find it horrible that they would have been forced to conform to someone else's conception of 'beauty'. Secondly, it's not always possible to do this (in fact telling someone they're fat is more likely to depress them into eating more: "I eat because I'm sad, and I'm sad because I eat").

*sigh* it's hard being on the defensive. Does anyone at least understand what I'm trying to get across? I don't think my line of argument is "idiotic", Rags. By all means, have an opinion, but really think about the consequences of expressing it. And to your assertion that I'm no longer being a liberal, Rags, I'll quote Jean Jacques Rousseau (clearly a liberal): "Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains." So, express an opinion, but be wary not to impact the freedom of others in doing so. Even if it's only by implying that to be fat is to be ugly.

Being a healthy weight is surely a related issue. And, OK, I'll concede that you're probably right that people are more attracted to people who are a healthy weight, and I'll also concede that this is what everyone seems to be saying. But is it ugly to be fat? And, if so, should we start saying this at the top of our voices just to get them to lose weight? Be considerate, we can't all help it. BTW, I am within a 'healthy' weight, towards the lower end, before someone tells me to 'not take it personally'.

[Pete]

Theres a difference between being a healthy weight and a little bigger, and being obese. When you have more chins than a Chinese phonebook or more rolls than a bakery, you've got a problem. It's just like when a belly button can be mistaken for a vagina. It's a disgusting problem because people aren't meant to be that big.

I mean it's cool and shit if people are happy with their own weight and appearance. I'm all for that. However, it's a serious problem when you're too fat to really do anything at all and you don't see it as a problem. People shouldn't be content with the fact that they're gonna die young or that their blood sugar level is Coca Cola.

In that same vein, maybe it's my own background, but I personally don't see being fat as a good thing. It leads to diabetes, and that leads to some really bad shit. Trust me, I've seen some nasty shit, but I won't go into it for personal reasons. I just think that it should be in everyone's best interest to be not even thin, but at least not fat/ overweight. And to me, because my health is very important to me, I would like to see a girl who feels the same way. Maybe not for the same reasons as me, but I think it's great when someone takes their health into their own hands, before it's too late. And yeah, looking good just so happens to be a result of taking a healthy approach to things.

I do feel bad for the girls who think they have to be cover model thin. Yes, for some reason society thinks thin is good. In most aspects, thin is relatively healthy. Anorexic is not. However, most of the guys who have responded to this thread, and I want to say most guys in general aren't into that. It's one thing to want a healthy looking girl, with some meat on her bones, and a normal weight/ height ratio. It's a whole other ballgame when a girl winds up 2 towns over because of a gentle breeze.

[Cheesevixen]

But is it ugly to be fat? And, if so, should we start saying this at the top of our voices just to get them to lose weight?

Like everyone is trying to tell you. It depends on the person whether they think it is ugly or not. I really think you are making this more complex than it is. More people are hard wired to react positively towards those in a normal weight range then not. It's just life. Just like "IF" there are more people in the world that prefer blonds to brunettes....it's not about gaining a common conception to be followed....it's about what makes our primal instincts react positively. And for what it's worth there are actual studies that show most men are attracted to darker haired woman due the to genetic dysfunction in a blonds DNA. Just like me wanting a man who has brown hair and brown eyes. I am not trying to push brown hair and eyes on anyone; I am looking for someone I can mate with and get the results I want in our off spring.

To me you are asking, "do we have the right to put someone down for the way they look." We are all adults. The answer is no. The usual common answer to that is no. So unless you have a different question please move on from that. Especially in asking if it is ok to do so just so someone changes who they are as a person. It's insulting to say the least. We may form opinion that are not to everyone's liking but as human beings the majority of us in here are not trying to hurt anyone.

If those that are overweight read this thread and get a eating disorder than there was something wrong with their wiring to begin with.

[Alpha]

To me you are asking, "do we have the right to put someone down for the way they look." We are all adults. The answer is no. The usual common answer to that is no. So unless you have a different question please move on from that.

Okay, I will give you a different question (though related). DO you think we are implicitly putting someone down for the way they look by contributing to this thread?

For many, it is a challenge to be healthy. It's easy to say "Oi, put down that Chicken McCheese", but a lot harder when such issues can go deeper than what many assume.

There was a an overweight kid at my college ('high school' for you Americans) who wasn't really bullied, just told he was overweight, and needed to do something about it. He tried and tried to, but couldn't lose weight, and continued to put more on. While no one really made fun of him directly, it did go on behind his back, and just in forms such as sniggering when he came home last in a race. He didn't commit suicide (as MANY do), but he did change schools. His mother came to our assembly the next week, and confronted the whole school on what had happened. She explained how he would come home from school sad, not crying, but sad. He would exercise, and his mother gave him healthy food, but it just didn't work. For what reason, I don't know. But this lady stood there and asked us what right we had to judge her son, and make him feel horrible about himself. I never saw anyone say that he was fat to his face, but boy must we have made him feel it.

What I'm saying is, that it is simple things that create insidious negative self-perceptions. Outright saying that being fat is disgusting and you should be made fun of for being so, does actually occur. Been to school at all? Maybe it's happened to you? It is even happening to a small extent here, though most are saying this in the context of being healthy, so it's not too bad. If it was worse, this thread wouldn't have lasted this long.

Women often talk about perceptions of beauty that are presented in the media. The common vein is that models are at an unreasonable weight, and there has been a noticeable backlash against such "size zero" frames. Consider though that what is a reasonable, attainable weight varies widely across people, and that it does damage to imply, or even outright say, that being fat is not beautiful.

Again, by all means, appreciate a healthy weight in your opposite (or same) sex. Just be aware that it can be damaging to people who find weight an issue.

[Cheesevixen]

Okay, I will give you a different question (though related). DO you think we are implicitly putting someone down for the way they look by contributing to this thread?

No, would be my answer. I believe that by contributing to this thread I am only allowing those whom participate here a chance to understand what my likes and dis-likes are, where I stand as a human being, and what is important to me. I also believe that most in here feel they are only doing the same thing. Finding those that appreciate our opinions as human beings and ultimately establish connections with others that have brains. I like having the opportunity to post what I believe; surrounded by those I have seen posting for years. I still learn new things about them. Yes not everyone is going to love the opinions, but that's life.

Like I said before. No one here is saying what they are saying to hurt anyone.

On Topic....I like boobs <3

funny how this doesn't lean towards anorexia, and didn't come up in the objectifying men thread. Hmmmm.......makes me wonder >>

[Alpha]

Those are explicit reasons, Cheesevixen, you didn't answer my question.

[Cheesevixen]

How is the word "no" not answering you? That was it...No. LMAO

<3 boobies and atheists. LMAO sorry MOD won't post anymore until I have more to say promise

[Alpha]

How is the word "no" not answering you? That was it...No. LMAO

Because you said 'no' on the basis that you are objectively stating what you like and dislike.

Do you think it is possible that there are implicit consequences? No one told the overweight kid that he was 'ugly and fat', but he still felt bad enough to try and escape it. Think about that.

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and didn't come up in the objectifying men thread. Hmmmm.......makes me wonder >>

There's one of those too?! Good grief.

[Cheesevixen]

My answer was no because my answer was no. It was based on the fact I care only to post in this thread because I have the ability to make my own decisions. I am not one to tip toe through life or walk on egg shells because some fat kid wants to read the "what's sexy thread". I'm sorry he had to go through that, but I haven't met a person yet who didn't go through something like that. I personally got called a whore behind my back at every job site I have ever had, and I was a manager. Did I run away? Did I chop off my breasts and cut my hair? Nope. I took it with a grain of salt. Which in time the fat guy will do too. It's called growing up, and if they can't do that than they need counseling. BAH ! no more....I done. Someone else deal with the kid ><.

[Rocky]

Because you said 'no' on the basis that you are objectively stating what you like and dislike.

Do you think it is possible that there are implicit consequences? No one told the overweight kid that he was 'ugly and fat', but he still felt bad enough to try and escape it. Think about that.

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There's one of those too?! Good grief.

If there is some kid in middle school thats sensitive enough to get all butthurt about being rejected because people are sitting in the lunchroom talking about what kind of men/women they like, then maybe instead of sulking and having self pity, they could actually try to do something about their situation, damn what a tough concept lol. I mean, it's so foreign and new I don't know who could do such a thing. And then I go back to my U.S. History class in high school, and I realize Rosa Parks did something about her situation, as she refused to move to the back of the bus to make a statement. Look at history now, do black people sit at the back of the bus? Oh, and then there was this time that the U.S. was getting attacked by Japan called Pearl Harbor, and after getting slapped around by them, President Truman told them to "knock it off" or else there was shit hitting the fan. The Japanese didn't listen, so guess what happened? Yes, President Truman went to better his situation and millions of other Americans by retaliating and dropping atom bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

I'm so sick of the world today, how people feel like we need to be bending over backwards for every single sect/nationality/gender/bloodtype/religious opinion/baseball team that we lose track of what WE believe. If people don't like what I have to say, and they value my opinion so much for some God-forsaken reason, then they can choose to disregard it or they can choose to change their ways. In this case, if some kid was being called fat, whether directly or indirectly, he has the option to try to lose that weight. As far as I know, it is not against the law in the United States to lose unnecessary fat. I think it may be like that in other countries too, but I'm unsure.

Dear lord I feel like I'm being trolled by poorly developed ideas here lol.

EDIT: Boobies! Yes, I prefer them a little on the small side, but I'm not overly picky. Vixen has nice boobies btw.

[Pete]

Everything Rocky said is the truth. I'm gonna totally go on a tangent, but don't worry about it.

And Ann said it best

"nobody can force someone to feel sexually attracted towards fat people"


The world really is going to shit because people are going full blown retarded left and right. Everyone needs to stop being so ****ing sensitive, because yknow what, the world is a cruel place. People need to toughen up or get swallowed up in in. It really does suck for that fat kid, that he's still fat. Maybe he should've seen a doctor and gotten his glands looked at, or something. Having his mom come and berate the school because he was sad is bush league. She should've been on the horn with a doctor or two coming up with some exercise and diet plans, and maybe some meds.

The problem with this world today is that so many people are just so afraid of everything. People don't stand up for themselves and then go and shirk and cry off in a corner. Then they go and eat because the food makes them feel better. So few people today have that "I'll show them" attitude, without the whole not going all Columbine on everyone aspect.

That's another major problem with this world. Stupid people take shit to an extreme. Everyone gets picked on at some point during their lives. Strength comes from perseverance. Pulling out an AK or killing yourself if just some dumbass move that only makes the rest of society get even stupider and even further out of touch with reality.

True story, I told some friends that I was taking Karate, back in 5th grade. My teacher caught wind of this and told me that if I used anything I learned in classes TO DEFEND MYSELF and maybe injure a bully, I'd get in trouble for knowing how to fight. Apparently it was unfair to the bully because I had an advantage over him... despite him being a good deal taller and fatter. I wound up knocking him on his ass using a simple throw, and he scraped his hand on the asphalt... guess who got detention for defending themselves? Cost me 2 weeks, but that kid never bothered me again.

Long story short, if you have a problem, just deal with it up front. If you have an egregious issue, just get past it. Either bust your ass and overcome it, or embrace it. Or hell, just sit in the corner and sulk, but that's no fun.



I'm not fully understanding your argument Alpha. You're asking if there are any implicit consequences of not making fun of a fat kid to his face. I'm gonna have to agree with the vixen on this one. Maybe he felt like shit because he was different, and NOT because everyone was making fun of him. Maybe he was just tired of being the only fat kid, and maybe he just couldn't stop being fat, so he was upset. You can't be sure that there was only one reason for him being upset, but you can make the argument that his obesity was the cause for a lot of things.

Low self esteem because he was fat and not good at sports? check
Upset because he wasn't popular because he had too low self esteem because he was fat? check
Upset because no matter how "hard" he tried to lose weight, he couldn't? check

And yes, you can just as easily say how it's society's fault because if the kid was skinny, maybe he'd have more friends, or maybe he would win a race, or get a date or whatever. At the same time, there are plenty of fat people who can and do lead fulfilling lives, with both athleticism and even lots of friends. Plus, nobody makes it out of highschool without some form of being mocked at some point.

People making fun of him was just icing on the cake. A cake that I hope he didn't eat.

I'm trying to be very real with this, but I feel that there are just so many issues that just lie within the realm of "it is what it is." Everyone has their own issues and obstacles to overcome. Some of us can do it, some of us can't.

I will say though that I don't feel any obligation to feel attracted to anyone for any reason. There's no affirmative action law (more bullshit, but that's another rant) that states that I have to be attracted to a fatty just because I haven't been attracted to any in the past year. Are they people? Absolutely. There's no saying they're not people or even hideous... just not attractive in my eyes.

[Alpha]

This just sort of comes down to being liberal/PC/idealist/left and conservative/brash (hmm opposite to PC?)/realist/right doesn't it? I've no problem identifying with the former. I understand what you guys are saying, but I just don't fully agree.

I'm sort of in the 'try to be nice to everyone' category, so yeah you can call me PC or what have you, and I'll won't hold sh*t against you. I'll stop now, I don't think I can say much more without repeating myself.

No hard feelings k? I'm just stating an opinion, don't take it personally

Alf.

[Che]

You can be nice to everyone without being gay, though. That's what we're trying to tell you.

[Cheesevixen]

^ROFL^

ok this is totally on topic I think. Was talking to DH last night about this little fire starting thread. He said he finds my legs and cheeks sexy. Figured I would add that to the list so women know they should not only by a certain weight range, but also have chipmunk cheeks and sexy legs. TY :-P I agree XD

****I attend other forums so sorry if there was a confusion, but DH is shorthand for "Dear Husband"**** sorry for the confusion.

[RagnaToad]

As much as I respect your ideal, Alpha, I think trying to be nice to everyone is totally irrelevant here. Sure, in real life the first thing I'll say to some fat chick/dude I meet is not going to be Change your lifestyle or you won't be accepted in society as much as a person with a normal weight. No, I'll be friendly, as I accept people for who they are.

But this is a forum on the WWW. Discussions about anything should be possible here. If anyone knows what's good for them, they'll try to gain perspective on everything that might be offensive to them.

I mean, if a discussion about the female shapes is offending you, that means you're not comfortable or self-confident to begin with.

Maybe some people are afraid to hear that someone out there on the WORLD WIDE web doesn't like their type. To those people: grow a pair.

EDIT: And as far as I can recall, this thread wasn't even about being fat or not. Not at all.