Aurora, Colorado: 12 Dead in Shooting Rampage at Midnight Showing of The Dark Knight Rises Read mor

[Hobaginator]

It's very much about the weapon as well though. There's no way 15 or so people would be dead and 50 injured with one man and a knife. Guns are extremely dangerous because they can do a lot of damage in a short amount of time to a large number of people.

I agree with this statement. Guns are dangerous, just like cars are dangerous. It requires a high level of skill, good moral ground, and decent mental capacity to use both safely and effectively in the right situations.

I have no idea why any American citizen would need a gun anyway, guns harm far more than they protect, they are not there for protection. Think of it this way: someone mugs you and you don't have a gun, consequence is you get your wallet stolen and maybe a punch in the face; someone mugs you and you have a gun, consequence is someone gets shot, someone dies. Normal citizens owning guns is one of the most idiotic things in America. I know I'm going to get torn into for this but what I say is the truth.

It has been in our constitution from the very start that we have the right to bare arms. This is to protect us from more than just crime. It's to protect us from the govornment. If citizens aren't allowed to have guns, neither should the govornment, or the military, or any other country for that matter. How would we solve that? I'm pretty sure it would come down to war. People are going to kill people no matter what you do to try and change that. I'd rather read about a mugger who was shot and killed, than a woman who was beaten and raped to death by an escaped convict. Truth is, just the fact that people are aware others might have guns deters a lot of crime in the states.

Genuine question, simply stated: could he afford mental healthcare?

I see what you did there. If what everyone's saying about gun control being off topic, then healthcare ought to be also, right? How about we start a new thread for that too?

I believe Hobaginator has very valid potential but it keeps getting dragged into name calling, anger-filled responses that any science-major would be laughed out at if he/she tried to use it as a means of justification.

I'm no science major, and yeah, I operate off of fury very efficiently (est. 98 mi/gal). I'll take your statement as a compliment.

About glorifying homicidal figures and the media's role in this... You can't blame media, you have to blame the man who pulled the trigger... I don't think media made him do it, but it may have helped him pull the trigger to pretend it all was just a movie. He obviously had no brass about him whatsoever, so it's anybody's speculation.

Fair enough you crazy Yanks I can understand its been part of your history for so many years.

Nix, it's more than just history. (Btw the "Yanks" fought for the Federal Govornment in the civil war to unite all 50 states and keep it that way. The Rebels fought against it for succession of a new govorning party of the South completely separate from the North.) Anyways, it's more than just history. It's what our country was founded on. Every part of the Constitution has been why the U.S.A. is what it is. I'm a patriot, and it infuriates me to see what's happening nowadays in politics... Politician geezers are just ripping pieces right out of the Constitution and finding loopholes to get away with it, it's happening all the time. If we're not careful, future generations are going to be living in chains -- the Constitution protects freedom.

So the way i see it is, keep your gun and you may save your life one day, or give it up and save many lives everyday. On a grander scale of things anyway, and if not total disarmament then i think at the very least, pistols only. Would you guys settle for pistols only even?

Sure. Can I trade my .22 caliber rifle for a pistol that fires 22mm rounds that can blow up a tank? 'Cause the fed has tanks, and choppers, and jets and missiles. At the very least let me protect myself against tanks should the socialist party decide it's time to burn the flag and rip up the Constitution in my lifetime. My point is that placing too much trust in the govornment is historically proven to be a giant mistake. Fed respects us, we respect fed. Fed starts taking away our rights, we fight back. You better be damn sure those govornment boys still remember the bitter fought battles in the southern hills. I'm a patriot for the U.S.A. That means that I'm not putting my life in some diplomat's hands, and when the shit hits the fan, your gun is your life.

Those of you who are against civillians owning guns, I imagine very few of you have had some homeboy from the hood point an unregistered pistol with the serial number scratched off at your face. Or some criminal phony pretending to be a cop try to rob you at gunpoint. If it happened to you and by sheer luck you lived to talk about it, I guarentee you'd seriously consider getting a Concealed Carry permit. I speak from experience. Both of those happened to me. The first one dry fired at my face point blank. He forgot to chamber a round. That's the only reason I'm sitting here typing to you right now. If I had a gun in that instance, he would have been one dead spade. I'm sure he's gone off to rape some 14 year old girl and stab some old lady for her purse since our run-in. Had I been armed when we met, he'd be nobody's problem. Same with the faux-deputy robber.

I still stand by my reasoning that if the moviegoers had been allowed to carry their firearms on premesis, this tragedy could have been prevented, or at least lessened. I blame gun control for their deaths and injury. Psychos are everywhere, but we need a way to strike them down when they get out of control.