Reply With QuoteI like Cloud's Omnislash and Meteorain, for the multi-target heavy damage. Also liked Aeris' Fury Brand, since it automatically fills the other two characters' limit bars, which is very nice.
Intro:Okay, so I've always been wondering which limit breaks were the best, especially since there is the stupid damage limit of 9,999... If every hit gets 9,999, then obviously the limit break with the most hits is the best one. And the weakest limit breaks become the ones that only do one hit, sometimes causing the level 3 limit break to be more powerful than the level 4 one. However, if you can use a gameshark code to "remove" the limit (aka: increase to 65,535), then just raw power is the winner of the most damage. If you do the Vincent or Barret overflow glitch, then obviously their limit breaks would be the most powerful.
Under normal circumstances, but with the 65,535 damage limit, then a limit break that has the highest potential should be the most powerful. However, the choice of which characters and which limit breaks to use is ultimately up to the player. I'm just one of those people that want to use a cool looking and strong limit break with an enjoyable (sexy is okay too) character.
Enough of the intro... now into my opinion as to the best limit break in Final Fantasy VII!
*The following characters, in my opinion, are too weak or their limit breaks are too annoying/non-useful, and therefore, will not be mentioned any further*
- Aerith/Aeris - IDC about invincibility or healing, plus she's weak
- Cait Sith - Hate using him and his limit break
- Vincent - Fun to use, but limit breaks are stupid and not fun (since I don't get to use him anymore)
Best(?) Limit Breaks:
*Note: There is always a chance for a critical hit, except for certain limit breaks that I have denoted that automatically do critical hits*
*Note2: All numbers are derived from the stats in the limit breaks section in Terence Fergusson's Party Mechanics Guide on GameFAQs*
*Note3: I'm only going by the information I saw and how I interpreted the information. The game mechanics might actually be different, so someone correct me if I'm wrong*
Cloud
Level 4
Omnislash
Hits: 15
Total Damage: 22.5x Base Damage*
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 149,985**
*Every hit is a critical: e.g. Deathblow. Without the criticals, the damage would be 11.25x Base Damage... if I correctly assume that a critical hit is double the damage (if I'm wrong, then use the 11.25x when calculating and multiply by the "critical constant")*
**Tied with Doom of the Living!**
Level 3
Meteorain
Hits: 6*
Total Damage: 10.05x Base Damage*
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 59,994*
*Although Meteorain is pretty good, it's nowhere near as strong as Omnislash.. but I felt the need to include it since it's cool*
Barret
Level 4
Catastrophe
Hits: 10*
Total Damage: 12.5x Base Damage*
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 99,990*
*A higher damage potential than Ungermax/Angermax, yet less damage with the damage limit of 9,999!*
Level 3
Ungermax/Angermax
Hits: 18*
Total Damage: 9x Base Damage*
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 179,982*
*See? A low damage potential, but if at the damage limit of 9,999, then it is tied with Highwind for the highest max damage*
Tifa
Level 4
Final Heaven (Plus preceding)
Hits: 7
Total Damage: 24.2x - 12.1x - 0x Base Damage*
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 69,993
*Okay, so the 24.2x is if you hit all "Yeah!", 12.1 is if you hit all "Hit", and 0 if you hit all "Miss"... Of course you will most likely get values in-between these set intervals, so luck can make the limit be strong, average, or horrible*
Red XIII
Level 4
Cosmo Memory
Hits: 1*
Total Damage: 7.8125x - 15.625x - 23.475x - 31.25x - 39.0625x - 46.875x Base Damage*
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 9,999 - 19,998 - 29,997 - 39,996 - 49,995 - 59,994*
*These are potential damage values, which depend on the number of enemies present! So, the damage multiplier is the first value, and the number of enemies starts at one, and increases to the next value as the number of enemies increases. Basically, if there are six enemies, you get 46.875x Base Damage. And yes, I think you can battle up to six enemies!*
Level 3
Earth Rave
Hits: 5*
Total Damage: 9.375x Base Damage*
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 49,995*
*I know what you're thinking: "REALLY?? THIS LIMIT SUCKS!!" .. But I think it's really cool looking.. so I keep it in here*
Yuffie
Level 4
All Creation
Hits: 1*
Total Damage: 8x - 16x - 24x - 32x - 40x - 48x Base Damage* **
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 9,999 - 19,998 - 29,997 - 39,996 - 49,995 - 59,994*
*These are potential damage values, which depend on the number of enemies present! So, the damage multiplier is the first value, and the number of enemies starts at one, and increases to the next value as the number of enemies increases. Basically, if there are six enemies, you get 48x Base Damage. And yes, I think you can battle up to six enemies!*
**The highest damage potential in the game!? Too bad the damage limit renders this almost useless! Also, the super high potential is due to having so many enemies..**
Level 3
Gauntlet
Hits: 1*
Total Damage: 3.5x - 7x - 10.5x - 14x - 17.5x - 21x Base Damage* **
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 9,999 - 19,998 - 29,997 - 39,996 - 49,995 - 59,994*
*These are potential damage values, which depend on the number of enemies present! So, the damage multiplier is the first value, and the number of enemies starts at one, and increases to the next value as the number of enemies increases. Basically, if there are six enemies, you get 21x Base Damage. And yes, I think you can battle up to six enemies!*
**Every hit is a critical: e.g. Deathblow. Without the criticals, the damage would be 1.75x Base Damage (per enemy)... if I correctly assume that a critical hit is double the damage (if I'm wrong, then use the 1.75x when calculating and multiply by the "critical constant")**
Level 3
Doom of the Living
Hits: 15*
*Bloodfest is 5 less hits (just an FYI)*
Total Damage: 10.125x Base Damage
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 149,985**
**Tied with Omnislash!**
Cid
Level 4
Highwind
Hits: 18*
Total Damage: 12.375x Base Damage
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 179,982*
*Tied with Ungermax/Angermax for highest damage with the 9,999 damage limit*
Level 3
Dragon Dive
Hits: 6*
Total Damage 8.625x Base Damage*
Max Damage (w/ 9,999 limit): 59,994*
Effect: 28% Chance of Death*
*Why include this one? Because of the Death potential!*
Final Thoughts:So the following are a few good parties based on my observations of the damage done by the limit breaks:
Normal Battle (9,999 damage limit)
Cloud (Omnislash), Barret (Ungermax/Angermax), Cid (Highwind)
Yuffie (Doom of the Living), Barret (Ungermax/Angermax), Cid (Highwind)
3 Or More Enemies (no damage limit)
Red XIII (Cosmo Memory), Yuffie (All Creation), Tifa (if all "Yeah!")
Red XIII (Cosmo Memory), Yuffie (All Creation), Cloud (Omnislash)
I really enjoy a lot of the limit breaks in Final Fantasy VII, so that's why it's hard for me to choose. That is also why I took all these hours to type up this super long (at least, it feels long.. and that isn't what she said) post. Yes, I did in fact type this all by myself!
© Thristle15
(Not really, but still.. please don't plagiarize!)
Last edited by Thristle15; 05-17-2011 at 03:53 PM. Reason: Forgot a * ..lol
I like Cloud's Omnislash and Meteorain, for the multi-target heavy damage. Also liked Aeris' Fury Brand, since it automatically fills the other two characters' limit bars, which is very nice.
I like Cloud's Omnislash too but I have to say that Blade Beam is one of my favorites to use since I end up in a lot of outnumbered fights. One on One (or I guess three since its the team) and I would take Omnislash but otherwise, I chose Blade Beam. Oh yeah, all of Tifa's reels (if you can get them), Yuffie's All Creation, and Red XIII's Comso Memory rock too
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I've never liked using Aeris, so I just filled her in with someone else. I'd be fine with having a few less limit breaks if I could just not have to deal with herOriginally Posted by Cereal~Killer
Blade Beam is really bad compared to Omnislash, lolI like Cloud's Omnislash too but I have to say that Blade Beam is one of my favorites to use since I end up in a lot of outnumbered fights. One on One (or I guess three since its the team) and I would take Omnislash but otherwise, I chose Blade Beam. Oh yeah, all of Tifa's reels (if you can get them), Yuffie's All Creation, and Red XIII's Comso Memory rock too
The Math
Blade Beam
Hits: 1 +Diffusion*
Total Damage: 3.5x + 1x + 1x... Base Damage*
*The "beam" hits one opponent for 3.5x Base Damage, then it "diffuses" to hit all the other opponents for 1x Base Damage. This gives a potential of 8.5x Base Damage if you battled 6 enemies. Omnislash has a higher potential than this, although Blade Beam is guaranteed to hit all the opponents, while Omnislash just has a good chance to.*
I know you dislike using Aeris Thristle lol but can someone tell me what her final limit break does?? I've never used a guide in ANY Final Fantasy and I'm not about to. Even to find out. Yes, I'm as stubborn as a puppy. And I'm going to have to be stubborn and not delete this post, but improve it. Lol...
Personal faves were obviously Omnislash - pure pwnage, Tifa's reels - always hit them right
And are we including the 8 limit breaks?
Oh and by the way, how did you work at the damage equations? Is it posted online or did you work it out yourself?
Last edited by Superjord; 05-10-2011 at 12:26 PM.
Aren't you contradicting yourself by asking someone? Since getting information from someone could be considered a "guide".Anyway, Aeris' final limit break is "Great Gospel", which completely restores everyone's HP and MP, and makes them invincible for like 30 seconds or so, I think.
Huh? What do you mean?
I got basic information from a guide, but I did the actual calculations myself. Also, I told you what to search for in my "Note2", right before the list of the limit breaks.Oh and by the way, how did you work at the damage equations? Is it posted online or did you work it out yourself?
Lol I edited my post after realising how contradicting I sound XD
I meant the limit breaks from 8, I didn't know if the thread was just about VII or not. Wouldn't want to change the topic lol.
And touché, that'll teach me for skim reading.
Well, I was talking about only VII, since I haven't played any other game with limit breaks
Ok, fair enough
Very interesting article and very informative assuming the mathematics are correct. As it isn't my area of expertise I will just take your word for it!
Ominislash there is no contest!!! But Cid's Highwind is pretty cool though.
Ahh, I was hoping for some insight in that area xDVery interesting article and very informative assuming the mathematics are correct. As it isn't my area of expertise I will just take your word for it!
Barret's Catastrophe is kinda cool too, but I just hate using him
I have no idea what any of Cait Sith's limit breaks are. I hate that character so much, I NEVER use him, except for the one point that I have to. I like to pretend he doesn't exist.
You have no idea how happy I was that I thought he was gonna die in the Temple of the Ancients, lolI have no idea what any of Cait Sith's limit breaks are. I hate that character so much, I NEVER use him, except for the one point that I have to. I like to pretend he doesn't exist.
lol okay Thristle15 consider me schooled
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ohh, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings!lol okay Thristle15 consider me schooled
nah, you're fine lol. I've just been playing FFVII lately and I've gone from Blade Beam to Omnislash and after a few times of using the latter, I got to thinking that Omnislash is so much better than Blade Beam
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I actually like Cloud's Omnislash. It was a bit hard to get, but it certainly is worth the trouble.
I know what you mean, it took me three hours one time to get Omnislashbut it was completely worth it
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Omnislah
Tifa's Limits
Barret
Cid
That was about it really...
I like Cid's Highwind, Not often you see a airship with several cannons on its side.
Yea dude Cids is one of the best, alongside Omnislash and Barrets, I forget what berrets is called but it causes multi damage as well.
Bext combo ive senn would be cloud with omni slash , yuffies doom of the living and red XIIIs earth rave, if you can level em enough and make them have the fury status with hypers they just destroy the enemy ha, almost every boss i come across with those three gets owned near enough straight away ha except quite obviosly the weapons those guys are evil ha
I have a life, I just choose not to use it
Omnislash has the most hits but is restricted by only targeting one enemy (if memory serves me right). Meteorain on the other hand can hit multiple targets, plus looks good in my opinion
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