Quote Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post
When Wolfenstein 3D came out wasn't every FPS just a copy/clone after that, yes even Doom. You could say Doom perfected the formula, had different setting and weapons, though in truth that can be said for a lot of shooters since then. It has always been perfecting the formula with few groundbreaking games in between. Jump from 2D to 3D was impressive to say the least, as was full motion gaming when it first appeared few years ago, video game industry still comes up with new stuff. What people fail to notice is just how much new games perfected the formula and are still pushing forward, multiplayer, story telling, music, and graphics in particular. What I'm trying to say, don't slam a great car just because it isn't as groundbreaking as the very first one, it's still a pretty great car if you know what I mean.
A more accurate description would be saying you invented new chess, instead of red and black, the board is green and blue with chess pieces!!! But I've always been really cynical with first person shooters, there are some good ones that actually TRY to be innovative...then you get Halo 4


There's nothing wrong with perfecting a formula, granted you bring something new on the table (I feel a lot of sequels do more than that), I'm pretty sure that's how things work in general. I'm with you on Zelda, Super Mario Galaxy 2 however just might surprise you, give it a go.
I'm one of the few people that thought the idea behind the wii was pretty cool...though when i hold the controllers, i look like michael j fox...so i'm not exactly good at wii games. As for mario...meh, burnt out on it, though one of the zelda games would be interesting...though i don't see much innovation after twilight princess

I'm pretty sure you're winding me up by this point.
I'm just very paranoid >_>

Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
You're mostly right there Xan. But BioShock is a spiritual sequel to System Shock, Persona 4 Arena is.. well part of the Persona series so not a new IP, and XCOM is part of the XCOM series. Kingdoms of Amalur basically bankrupted their studio (and the state of Rhode Island took a hit too with their $75m loan) so I wouldn't expect to see another one of those anytime soon. I actually agree with your point though.
1. I remember this...and it's no surprised they bankrupted their studio...75 million goddamn dollars

2. Why in the hell did a state feel it was appropriate to loan money to a gaming studio...especially the smallest state in the country

My two cents: It's all relative. The games you played when you were younger were great because you were less cynical and you had less choice. It's nostalgia and that, my friend, is opium for old people. You were just enjoying the games you played more back then, it doesn't make them better. Games in my opinion will always be the same.
Nah, I didn't play many games as a kid, pretty much just mario and pokemon, I've only recently began playing a lot of older games.

Quote Originally Posted by anthonyaudi View Post
It's as if the games on the systems today are made for people who have very low attention spans. In the sense that, if it does get to hard, there is a cheat to pass it. Or if for some odd reason a puzzle is too hard then just Youtube the answer. Or if you die too often just put god mode on. I find that todays gamers expect to be spoon fed if it gets too hard. (Let's not make a reference to Game genie on the cheats, I know it was available)
No, cheats are awesome, and they're one thing that's improving, especially with hacking. It's just epic to twist games to where they never should have been. Hell, hacks of games are actually creating pretty amazing games in their own right, google pokemon brown, that game is epic.