The day the ID died

[OceanEyes28]

Because I have enough anger and hostility in my real life as it is, and I don't need it on the internet.

Pretty much what everyone else has said. I'm not afraid to get into deeper topics if I know I'll be exchanging ideas rather than being on the defensive the entire time. How is that enjoyable?

Having someone disagree with me is one thing, as long as we still respect the other person's right to have that opinion. But some of the disrespect and the insults that I have seen in ID have turned me off to it completely.

And I know myself well enough to know that when someone says women should be paid less because we can get pregnant... I'll be bothered by that. So I avoid it.

[Rocky]

the problem isn't with the forum itself, its more with the regulars that frequent it. The flaming and general disrespect that people have towards it just turns a lot of people off towards it. (On another note, the people who do flame in there are terrible at. Calling someone a "kid," really? I think we all learned that one in 4th grade, nice job.) The problem is that people aren't respectful in ID whether their opinions are vaild or not, and until people change, I doubt ID will. I can see this being somewhat resolved by being stricter in the warning of people's posts, (rather then closing them, because that just kills ID by closing off the topic of discussion) but at the end of the day people are going to have to get talked to and told to put the flamethrowers away if we're going to have a successful forum.

[Merlin]

From my own experience, ID hardly ever results in healthy debates. It often degenerates into people making statements and some asshat belittling them with grammar/fallacy/source checks and insisting people's entire arguments are bunk because of any slight mishap in those.

I don't have 3 hours to find all my various sources to "prove" my points and another 3 hours to check my post to make sure each and every sentence doesn't fall under one of the 500+ obscure fallacies(not the obvious ones).

Who wants to debate with someone who constantly goes "Oh that sentence is a _____ fallacy so your whole post is BS!" or "You misspelled the word ___ so you obviously don't know what you are talking about." F#ck that. I've got better things to do with my time.