I agree with you on everything, especially game being too easy. Still, this game left some very memorable experiences for me and it can't be the worst FF for me. The worst one is probably FF7, judging by how overhyped people say it is and how it does everything worse than FF6. No, wait. By reading comments about FF XIII, it'd definitely have to be the worst. Having to grind through 5-6 hours of linear gameplay is just so unorthodox.Originally Posted by Mindu
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Don't misunderstand. I do like VI. It just didn't live up to the hype for me in the same way VII didn't for many others. If I had to pick a worst game it would be II, although I still like that game somewhat and have played it more than once. After all, my username comes from the Origins version, but it required a stupid amount of grinding and was still too hard unless you had the Blood Swords.
FFXIII is the most dissapointing FF game for me. I was eally excited when I heard it should come to PS3. But it was really a dissapointment. It's the same as FFXII, with some differences. I did like FFXII to a point. The plot is good for a while, but get's boring when you have played a while. The fight system in FFXII is better than the one in FXIII. And the graphic is better in FFXIII. The music is way much better in FFXII.
And most importanly, FFXIII has 1 side quest. FFXII has many.
I'll make this quick. I was a little disappointed with FFIX because having played FFVIII with close to real characters/places/graphics, FFIX had to revert back to being cartooney. I have nothing against FFIX, in fact I enjoyed playing it, but the characters/places/graphics could've been more "real" for me. Just my opinion.
It would either be VII or XII. I never even touched XIII, but I can pretty much guarantee it would take the first place spot on my list. VII was just over hyped and cliche as ****. XII...was XII, just not a FF at all. I despise the gameplay element, it was just terrible in my opinion. The story and such seem kinda interesting though, but it might just be my love of baroque artwork influencing the slight bit that I remember.
If there are any FF games that are bad, I would have to go with Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII. Reasons I dislike this title are the following: 1. Its a low budget 3rd person action shooter with RPG elements. 2. The game seemed like it was made mostly for its cutscenes. 3. Character development really wasn't that great, vincent's was fine since the game mainly focused around him but the other characters featured in game weren't written very good (i.e. Cait Sith *shivers*).
I do have facts I enjoy about the game: 1. Soundtrack was pretty neat and I like how Square threw in some songs from the band Gackt at the end. 2. While the game was mostly made up of cutscenes, they were pretty cool for what they are worth. 3. It was intriguing to see how Vincent's past turned out and his relationship with Lucrecia back then. Other than that, it definitely killed what made FFVII a good title on its own (if Advent Children didn't already do so).
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XII. The gameplay was crap, the characters were bland and forgettable, the story was decent, but below par for a Final Fantasy. Shame that the combat system was so... not even remotely entertaining. Because it had a ton of end game content, something I usually like in a game. Overall XII wasn't even that bad a game, it's greatest crime was being an enormous waste of potential, not deserving of the Final Fantasy name. Had it been released as as spinoff, the new, untested combat system wouldn't have bothered me, but when you put the FF name on something, particularly a name of the numbered series, you're telling me that this is an amazing game, deserving of carrying on the name that I-X did. XII did not live up to what that name means. I wasn't terribly fond of the gameplay of XIII (though I found its story much more engaging, and characters much more interesting) either, though I enjoyed the combat much more than XII. I suppose XII just made me expect less from the Final Fantasy name to a point that a second disappointment just wasn't that surprising.
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Why don't we just call this the "ffVII hate thread" ****ing hell. You guys suck.
FfXII dissapointed me the most, unlike HA assessment, mine is almost the opposite. Gameplay was great, characters and story were lacking. As for the hate on ff7, I didn't realize that much hype could be created. I didn't have Internet back then, only magazines. Dont remember there being any advertisement either.
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Ive already had my say in this thread but theres a video i came across a while back n would like to share. Exactly how I feel WORD. For FKN. WORD. I lol'd so hard.
Talked to a friend who likes FF games today and asked him about the newer FF's that I haven't played (9 and up). He surprised me when he said that when the original Squaresoft team broke up, all FF games from 10 and up weren't the same and as good anymore. That made me quite depressed. Is he right? From what I've been reading in this thread about FF12 and knowing how bad FF13 is, I'm inclining to believe him.
Its really up to the player to decide if the mentioned games are bad, even if they aren't as good, it doesn't mean that they aren't fun to play. I don't play XII that often but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy playing it (even though I actually DO like that title). XIII has fun game mechanics even though most of the game is linear. I would say its really up to the player, and my advice to the fellow players who dislike whatever new FFs come about, play the ones you enjoy and that is an encouraging statement because the games that square and whatever company have made in the past will probably won't get any better in quality than what they had at the time. That doesn't mean they aren't there for us to enjoy anymore.
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I feel this close to say Final Fantasy XIII because of the unholy trio (that'd be Nomura, Kitase and Hamauzu), but the topic is "which one was most disappointing", and in total fairness, I can't say nothing of a game that I haven't played, and that I refuse to play.
Therefore, I must mention the one that really disappointed me was Final Fantasy IX. Yes. I played VII at its prime, and I find various things that were nicely done. I didn't felt the same with FFIX.
It's hard to explain, but one of the main qualms was character development mechanics. Even FFVI had a way to customize your characters, despite having fixed classes, because of how you could place Espers for their spells and level-based stat boosts. On the other hand, IX's characters were so tightly defined, there was little to buff them.
I didn't like Zidane that much, probably because of his attitude. I'm no lover of many scoundrels (Han Solo notwithstanding), but Zidane really doesn't interest me that much. I can claim that Cloud is more interesting than Zidane, and his Heroic BSoD during the time in Terra, contrasting with his usually "cheery" demeanor, put me off. Garnet as a female character was also sorta uninspiring, even though she has some moments of development (such as when she goes mute because of trauma and then cuts her hair), because it implies a degree of character development. I found the secondary characters (mostly Steiner, Freya and Amarant) to be interesting in their own ways, but Zidane just...pretty much killed it. Well, he and Eiko (*groan*)
Brahne as villain was utterly dreadful, and it was a refreshing bit to see Kuja pretty much steal the spotlight. However, the sudden appearance of Garland as an antagonist distorted the feeling of antagonism of all villains: Brahne is finally beaten, you get this feeling of "ugh, finally, that old fat b***h is gone, hoo-f''in-ray!!", then Bahamut attacks, you get that "oh snap, Alexandria is doomed!", then you get one of the best points of the game (the quest to protect Alexandria), then you summon Alexander, you expect this awesome battle, and then...the Invincible appears and ruins everything.
Only a flat "what" fits that point. Then, you see Garland being a schemer, the mastermind behind everything, and...he still doesn't feel like a villain. He pretty much makes Kuja a sympathetic villain, until Kuja goes nuts and shatters a planet to smithereens, blowing up Garland in the way. That's when you start feeling that Kuja is a challenge (a challenge your size, darn it!!), and you feel pretty much happy that Garland is gone, because once again, a weak villain is gone. That makes you feel Kuja is a real villain. That battle against Trance Kuja? Priceless...
...oh, but then there's Necron. Giant Space Flea from Absolutely Nowhere. I pretty much dredged through the final battle just to see the ending because, while he was kinda hard, just between Shock and Treasure Hunt/Grand Lethal it was pretty much over, but it was that feeling that "KUJA'S GLORIOUS FINAL BATTLE WAS STOLEN!!!!" stayed through my mind that ruined the real final boss battle for me.
There were other things that I felt wrong (the map itself was...well, pretty insane to follow, for example), but I felt disappointed for what appeared to be a return to old-school FF. There's a few gems there (I mentioned Kuja and Steiner, but I definitely find Beatrix the one thing I'd save from the game above anything else, because she felt like a real threat and she's doing it out of duty!), but I expected something better. I found X better in comparison. I never minded II's progression because I'm such a huge, huge, HUGE fan of the SaGa games, it felt pretty much familiar. But IX...not one I'd play again.
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VIII really disappointed me on so many levels! Squall was grumpy, Rinoa was just too sickly sweet and the bosses were just crap! The graphics also weren't that great and I think that SS/SE improved with IX
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VIII really disappointed me on so many levels! Squall was grumpy, Rinoa was just too sickly sweet and the bosses were just crap! The graphics also weren't that great and I think that SS/SE improved with IX
Vanille: "Wishes can come true, but not if you just wait for miracles. Miracles are things we make for ourselves, here and now"
Lightning: "It's not a question of can or can't. There are some things in life you just do"
Cloud of Darkness: "We are the Cloud of Darkness...None shall stand before the flood of darkness. With it, we will bring the Void to this world, and your world of light as well..."
Luneth: "We won't let you! Not if we have anything to say about it!"
Cloud: "And if you don't tell us...I'll chop them off"
Aerith: "...I'll rip them off"
Tifa: "I'll smash them"
I love all the FFs but if I need to be honest, I was a little disappointed in X-2.
It just wasn't what I expected it to be after I played FFX so many times before.
What about Mystic Quest? I'm surprised noone mentioned it. It was super linear and had the most generic story ever, but I still found it pretty enjoyable in some ways. Still better than 13.
Despite Bartz being one of my favorite characters of all time, FFV is the one that disappointed me out of all of them. The ones I've played have been replayed at least once. I only played through V twice, and I haven't done much during the second time since I was about to get VIII at that time (which was so awesome, btw).
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FFV had the best music, setting and the way both worlds played a role in the story was awesome. For me it's on the same level as FFVI and IV.
I'm playing the version released from the PSN so I'm guessing it's not as enjoyable as the Advance version.
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FFVI was the biggest disappointment to me for it never drew me in enough, I tried my hardest to get interested but the whole story seemed way to whacked out. I feel as though they tried too hard on this one.
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FF13. I bought a fuggin' PS3 partially so that I could play it. Then I got it, and what the hell was that? My roommate was excited for it too, so she was gonna watch me play for a bit. I don't think she lasted the first half hour. I don't know how I did either.
It was just too cinematic. They set out to make a movie, not a video game, and they've got so many stupid anime tropes and anime characters in there. Female Cloud? Why? But I like Cloud much better. Lightning is a bitch. Hope is obnoxious. Vanille is okay, except the weird noises she made in battle that sounded like... well, I won't say. Fang was kinda forgettable. Snow was an ass, and they made him even more of an ass in the sequel, but he was almost my favorite. Sazh was awesome, but the worst character stats wise. Why did they do that? That was bullshit. Go play Skyrim, it's a million times better. Anyhoo...
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Haha! Nice review. Right down to the point. I loved your character description.
Fixed that for ya. Skyrim isn't so bad, but if you crave fun companions, DA has that beat. Plus the open-end adventuring. Wish Kawazu played that game and got to make a new SaGa. Here's hoping DA III is much better.
@Mystic Quest: obviously it was super-linear, generic in terms of story and extremely easy. It's meant to be a beginner's RPG. I wouldn't diss it because of a few things, particularly because it was the first RPG I played, and because Tristram (the original Lock, before FFVI's Locke made his appearance) oozes coolness. Oh, and the soundtrack is particularly awesome as well: the Battle Themes, Lava Dome and Doom Castle, for example. Dissing on FFMQ is the equivalent of putting...say, Mario's Time Machine or Mario is Missing! as the worst Mario games because they're edu-tainment games, which is...basically their purpose (i.e. don't expect a miracle out of them).
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Final Fantasy VIII was the beginning of the end for me. After liking Final Fantasy IV and loving Final Fantasy VI & Final Fantasy VII, playing FFVIII felt like a gigantic letdown. After I finished FFVIII I went back and replayed FFVII for a more enjoyable experience; after FFVIII, I could have had a more enjoyable experience by playing Battletoads Level 3: Turbo Tunnel.
Someone mentioned "over-hyped" regarding FFVIII earlier in this thread. I echo that sentiment. Drastically overhyped. Following FFVII as the next big FF title on Playstation did not help its case. With a convoluted plot, mostly hollow characters and a final villain that, when compared to the previous games' main antagonists that were pretty devious and mostly obvious, comes out of nowhere (An evil Sorceress? From the distant future? Wait, she was possessing that one chick the whole time? Huh? And she wanted Rinoa for some reason? What. The. ****?!), the game proceeded to annoy me the further I progressed.
Getting down to the brass tacks of the game, I didn't enjoy the music as much as the previous Final Fantasy installments. As a self-professed game music aficionado, the soundtrack felt lacking in certain areas. I could count on one hand how many individual tracks I enjoyed. Also, the junction/draw magic systems didn't impress me. Drawing magic for what seemed like half the battle felt like a chore. Battling was a bore. It has been over a decade since I've played it, but I remember the distinct feeling that casting magic currently junctioned to your stats felt like the wrong thing to do because you'd have to repeat the chore of drawing magic to replenish your stock at some point. Might be wrong there. I don't know. I feel the whole thing could have been handled a little better than it was. Good idea, poor execution. Guardian Forces were almost all awesome, though. That would be the one star awarded.
FFVIII befuddled more than it bedazzled. In the grand scheme of things, it was the title that derailed my total and unwavering devotion to the franchise. I treated every subsequent Final Fantasy title with an acutely-focused lens of scrutiny and abandoned the franchise after Final Fantasy XII.
Hero façade. Villain at heart.
I was rather much disappointed by III, which I got for the DS, but then I can't really complain. It WAS made a LONG time ago... and I AM an adult. Still.... so-so-so boring
That would make my biggest let-down FF X-2. Why have you let yourself be corrupted by Rikku, Lady Summoner Yuna? WHY?!?
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I want to say XII but that's probably a little unfair considering I haven't played it since it came it out and hardly gave it a chance. I did hate the battle system though.
Haven't touched XIII. Don't know if I will.
With III, I was more disappointed in myself since it kicked my ass more than any other FF title. Straight up ruthless.
FFVIII disappointed me most. I just couldn't get attached to it as much as I could all the games that came before it,
which saddened me greatly.
I cant believe people slagging off FF7. Im guessing its because they werent around, or werent old enough, to play the game around its release. As far as I can remember, VIII was the game that was severley overhyped and it didnt even come close to living up to VII. The characters were far better in VII as was the levelling up, both of weapons and materia (Junction system wasnt great imo). However, I did like VIII. Just not even half as much. IX and X were both awesome. The one that really let me down was XII. After the success of X it seemed like SE were trying, and still are, to westernise it too much. The one thing that appeals to me about FF is the JRPG originality you get that you dont with other games. XII was a complete abomination, the battle system was shoddy, the storyline didnt engage me, the lack of Summons really disappointed me (I couldnt bring myself to play it after I got past the second sand-sea so not sure if you do acquire them after) XIII isnt too bad. Ive only got as far as landing on Pulse atm but its far more enjoyable than XII. I cant see the series ever living up to, what I call, the golden era of VII, VIII, IX & X
I never understood this "you weren't there for it's release" malarkey. I played Chrono Trigger for the first time 15 years after it's release, and it was everything I thought it would be. It either lives up to it's hype or it doesn't, simple as that.
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I'm going to have to disagree. Things change over time especially expectations of a game and the impact they have during that period.
I won't say that you wouldn't be able to go back and love a classic game and praise it as one of the best, it's just not something everyone can do. If I go back and play Megaman 1 and enjoy it I highly doubt I would rank it as an awesome game. Megaman X trumps it in every category so to me it's just a mediocre game. Back in the day though had I played megaman 1 originally it would probably be more of a classic to me.
Final Fantasy VII was the shit when it came out, but as time went on its flaws became more and more apparent. Making its appeal less and less to any new player. Those who played it and love it still do (for the most part), those who didn't often see it as horrible 3D, a emo main character, and a lackluster final boss.
True, true, but if I don't like a certain game for it's story and characters what difference does it make at what point I play it. If I did in fact play VII at it's release would Cloud be any less of a emo, Sephiroth a better villain and less a Kefka rip-off?
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