Beards or no beards?

[loaf]

The beard has gotten a lot of attention in the last 5 years.

[Crescent]

Studies only indicate trends, not truths.

...Then.. what was the point of those "studies" and their "trends" you put forward if they didnt hold some truth to them? then I can pull all kinds of "studies" n "trends" outta my ass too. A few of those mentioned i actually agreed with.

The beard has gotten a lot of attention in the last 5 years.

Absolutely. You dont have to like beards to not have noticed that. Someone at the dinner said the exact same thing but that doesnt mean we have to take a personal liking to them.

Guys, The lady is allowed to not like beards and be disgusted by them, give it up?

How many of you would be grossed out at a woman sporting hairy pits, back, chest, BEARDS or legs? Some may not mind, where I would be grossed out by all of the above and I know most others would also.

Thankyou Nix. Smartest fking post in this entire thread.

I think beards are disgusting get over it.

[Heartless Angel]

...Then.. what was the point of those "studies" and their "trends" you put forward if they didnt hold some truth to them? then I can pull all kinds of "studies" n "trends" outta my ass too. A few of those mentioned i actually agreed with.

To demonstrate that your own dislike of beards does not accurately reflect the opinion of the majority. People who don't like facial hair, I have noticed, often assume the rest of the world sees them as a bad thing too. Some people who actually wear beards assume that it's going to hurt them in the working world. Studies show that is simply not the case. They do not show that beards are objectively good, they merely reveal the equally worthless opinions of the majority of study subjects.

If you think I'm trying to convince you that beards are good, I'm not. I have no interest in arguing about your taste. There is no truth to be revealed in matters of taste, as such, discussing it is a waste of time. What I am arguing against the the notion, which is demonstrably false, is that beards are a detriment in the working world.

[Crescent]

To demonstrate that your own dislike of beards does not accurately reflect the opinion of the majority. People who don't like facial hair, I have noticed, often assume the rest of the world sees them as a bad thing too. Some people who actually wear beards assume that it's going to hurt them in the working world. Studies show that is simply not the case. They do not show that beards are objectively good, they merely reveal the equally worthless opinions of the majority of study subjects.

Look, I can sit back here and do the same your doing and pull out the ol "studies show that blah blah " till the fkng cows come home, when Im also very much speaking first hand, in my experience working, school, uni, i have never met anybody male and female, in power or not, who have ever stated, and emphasised to me, in both speaking and the written word that beards are favoured or acceptable in the working world, it was always very much the opposite ESP in the workforce. Though we are not naive enough to think everybody else, in the business world or not, might share the same view but I strongly stand by my views.

If you think I'm trying to convince you that beards are good, I'm not. I have no interest in arguing about your taste. There is no truth to be revealed in matters of taste, as such, discussing it is a waste of time.

Im glad.

EDIT: Andro do u have a beard too?

Ezio seriously if I didnt know any better Id think you have a crush on me. Nice to hear your clean shaven tho

[Heartless Angel]

Look, I can sit back here and do the same your doing and pull out the ol "studies show that blah blah " till the fkng cows come home, when Im also very much speaking first hand, in my experience working, school, uni, i have never met anybody male and female, in power or not, who have ever stated, and emphasised to me, in both speaking and the written word that beards are favoured or acceptable, it was always very much the opposite. Though we are not naive enough to think everybody else, in the business world or not, might share the same view but I strongly stand by my views.

I also have personal experience of it not makin a difference. There are of course people who don't like facial hair. The reason I cite studies, is because studies indicate the opinion of the majority based on consensus, and extrapolation from psychological research.

People who like beards generally do so based on subconscious implications of a beard rather than conscious thought on the matter. People who dislike beards generally do so based upon conscious consideration of the matter. It makes sense that you're going to hear people talk about things they have chosen to dislike more than you're going to hear people talking about the things they never even really gave thought to liking. Particularly when they often aren't even aware that they're being influenced by subconscious reactions to stimuli.

Your views, again, are not relevant to anything I'm talking about. There is no reason to try to defend your personal taste to me. I understand it. I am indifferent to it. You're welcome to your opinion.

[Crescent]

I also have personal experience of it not makin a difference. There are of course people who don't like facial hair. The reason I cite studies, is because studies indicate the opinion of the majority based on consensus, and extrapolation from psychological research.

People who like beards generally do so based on subconscious implications of a beard rather than conscious thought on the matter. People who dislike beards generally do so based upon conscious consideration of the matter. It makes sense that you're going to hear people talk about things they have chosen to dislike more than you're going to hear people talking about the things they never even really gave thought to liking. Particularly when they often aren't even aware that they're being influenced by subconscious reactions to stimuli.

Dont you think you overanalyse a bit too much HA? Am I being schooled on what goes on in the psyche of someone who when they see a beard..im not ruling that out to be truth but I still dont trust or take take your word for it or those studies. My experience and the people I work with I'll feed off of that.

Your views, again, are not relevant to anything I'm talking about. There is no reason to try to defend your personal taste to me. I understand it. I am indifferent to it. You're welcome to your opinion.

Me thinks doth protest too much..