Final Fantasy can't do villains?

[Rowan]

Cloud: He disappeared!?

Tifa: He might still be nearby……

???: Our purpose is to deliver the Black Materia to our master.

Cloud: Our...?

Cid: Hey, hey! What's goin' on?

???: Those who carry Jenova's cells...

Cloud: Master...!?

???: Of course... Sephiroth. Heh, heh, heh...

Is again, indicative of Jenova being under the control of Sephiroth. Unless you think Jenova would call Sephiroth "master" while controlling him. Clearly the "????" in the conversation is Jenova because at that point in the game you realise it wasn't Sephiroth you were chasing, but Jenova assuming the form of Sephiroth.

You could argue the "????" why it didnt it just friggin say 'JENOVA'... Oh maybe because they wanted you to realise it was Jenova when you actually started fighting it. The surprise was meant to be that you're facing off against a Sephiroth referring to himself in the third person only to discover...

It's Jenova itself.

I dont agree. Why would Jenova refer to herself (itself) in the third person?

"???? - Those with Jenova's cells"

Why not

"???? - Those with my cells"


I never gave Jenova much thought in the first place, you dont need to convince me. Im just saying that its also your arguments that are being built upon speculation. Unless it instead of -????- it said Jenova, then you are assuming. I dont care about the battle that followed the conversation, sephiroth comes lunging at you on the cargo ship and then you fight jenova. It doesn't matter. They leave stuff like this ambigious for a reason, not just in FF7 but in other FF games as well.

edit: in fact, thinking back I remember always thinking that it was Clouds alter conciousness talking to him. Like when he was sleeping that night in junon, and other times where there had been a black screen with text. Dont forget, Cloud suffers/suffered from schitzophrenia.


Superedit: Not sure if there is a word for "My" in Japanese, in which case you can chalk it upto poor translation. Which still enforces my belief that it wasn't explained clearly to those who were searching for the answer. I reiterate; I never gave it much thought.


Why must one control the other anyway? They both share the same goals, why cant they just operate as a team? Thats how I've always seen it.