Morality...?

[Odin1199]

Nah, you're not making sense saying subconscious is an autonomic process that decides stuff for us. No, logic, conscious thoughts do. Subconscious is our consciousness that runs in the background but thinks what conscious thoughts program it to be. Sometimes it gathers stuff and thinks on it's own, but then we analyze, test our data and fix those subconscious thoughts to help our conscious ones. One runs in harmony with the other or at lest tries to and tunes your brain to work efficiently by collecting memory in the background. That's how people learn things, otherwise subconscious would not let us learn anything and would reset our ideals, morals, values, logic and other things. We would never be in control of our actions. It'd all be chemical reactions in our head shooting up random stuff and twisting our realities all the time.

[Heartless Angel]

Nah, you're not making sense saying subconscious is an autonomic process that decides stuff for us.

Well that's good, because I never said that. I said conscious thoughts are driven by subconscious thoughts, and this inevitably brings into conscious thought, our psychological needs. That isn't the same thing as unconscious minds making our decisions for us.

No, logic, conscious thoughts do.

Conscious thoughts are driven by unconscious thoughts. As for logic, laughable. If people were driven by mere logic the world would probably be a better place. However based upon logic alone, there is no reason for us to exist. Logic alone does not provide motivation to act. There must be a goal to achieve before any course of action becomes logical. For there to be a goal, there must be a motivation. A motivation means a subconscious thought, a desire to fulfill a psychological need. No matter what other motivators you try to throw at me as an alternative to egoism, all you're actually doing is naming another egoistic motivator. You're already quite aware of your own egoistic nature, now you're just trying to deny it to preserve your ethics.

Subconscious is our consciousness that runs in the background but thinks what conscious thoughts program it to be.

You can't be serious. The unconscious mind is by definition independent from the conscious mind. They share information, but never have direct, willful interaction with one another. There is literally no psychologist on this planet who would agree with the assertion you just made, because it's just that asinine. If you're really willing to go to such great lengths to dismiss me, you may as well just use the ignore button, as you've ceased all rationality some time ago. You do not control your subconscious. That is what makes it your ****ing subconscious. If you controlled it, it would be conscious by definition.

Sometimes it gathers stuff and thinks on it's own, but then we analyze, test our data and fix those subconscious thoughts to help our conscious ones.

It always thinks on its own, that's the only way it CAN think. Thought driven by your will is by definition conscious thought. The conscious and unconscious mind share information, but they do not directly control each other. Ever. For any reason. Your assertion is utterly ridiculous.

One runs in harmony with the other or at lest tries to and tunes your brain to work efficiently by collecting memory in the background. That's how people learn things, otherwise subconscious would not let us learn anything and would reset our ideals, morals, values, logic and other things.

No, it doesn't. Your knowledge of psychology is severely lacking. The unconscious by definition does not directly communicate with the conscious mind. Unconscious thoughts are thoughts your conscious mind is not aware of. If you were not aware of your memory, it wouldn't be much of a memory, would it? The unconscious is not where your all your memories are. You have both conscious AND unconscious memory. People learn things due to a phenomena known as neuroplasticity. It has nothing to do with the relationship between the conscious and unconscious mind.

We would never be in control of our actions. It'd all be chemical reactions in our head shooting up random stuff and twisting our realities all the time.

You're STILL not in control of your actions. The brain is made of matter, just like everything else, matter operates on principles of causality, possibly influences by random quantum variables. That leaves you with either hard determinism, or hard indeterminism. Your will is not free, it's just a program executing itself. How exactly do you propose that being operated by a consistent biomechanical program driven by causality would twist reality? Your assumptions are absolutely absurd. Not once have you given a rational rebuttal to this debate, all you've done is twisted words, redefined things to suit your position, and made assumptions based upon literally nothing. If you can't stand to have your reality questioned, or more importantly, answered in a way you don't like, fine. But please don't attempt to infect others with your ignorance.