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    Shockingly enough, I agree with many of the points mentioned by Sasquatch. My position is one of a minority as a pro-life atheist, I just thought I'd mention that from the get go that my stance is not defined by religion.

    My primary reasoning is that I believe life begins at conception. I believe this because I feel any point beyond this moment being labelled the point at which life first exists is decided by arbitrarily, and any point before conception is simply raw materials with no potential to create life on their own.

    As for male reproductive rights, they're horrid. The law puts the entirety of the future of the baby in the mothers hands, yet the father remains responsible throughout the same period. The mother has a way out, yet the male is bound by law? The same law which allows a legally protected procedure to remove a baby from her mother at the same period of gestation that if she were assaulted could and has resulted in differing levels of murder charges. A very foolish system, which again hinges on arbitrary definitions.

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    Shockingly enough, I agree with many of the points mentioned by Sasquatch. My position is one of a minority as a pro-life atheist, I just thought I'd mention that from the get go that my stance is not defined by religion.

    My primary reasoning is that I believe life begins at conception. I believe this because I feel any point beyond this moment being labelled the point at which life first exists is decided by arbitrarily, and any point before conception is simply raw materials with no potential to create life on their own.

    As for male reproductive rights, they're horrid. The law puts the entirety of the future of the baby in the mothers hands, yet the father remains responsible throughout the same period. The mother has a way out, yet the male is bound by law? The same law which allows a legally protected procedure to remove a baby from her mother at the same period of gestation that if she were assaulted could and has resulted in differing levels of murder charges. A very foolish system, which again hinges on arbitrary definitions.
    Father's rights are definitely crap. One of my friends has been fighting to get custody of his daughter for 11 years now. She's turning 12 next year and will have the choice of where she wants to live (she's wanted to live with him for as long as she could figure out what that meant) and yet its all on the mother.

    I suppose, in some small aspect I understand why all the law is on the mother's side. It is the Mom that goes through pregnancy (it sucks, btw ) and more often than not the Mother is the one left with the baby. Its a shame though that our laws aren't evolving with the father's along with it. It used to be so rare to see a father who was actively interested in his paternal rights when it came to having a baby before marriage (just an example I'm throwing out - I know there's more situations that just that) but nowadays I know more father's who WANT their children as opposed to those who don't. Criminal that they have no rights.

    I'm pro-choice however. But in saying that, I'm pro-choice if that's BOTH what the parents want. If one wants to keep it and the other doesn't then I think a compromise is in order. Of course, that'll never be simple. Its incredibly expensive to raise a kiddo, I don't know many people who'd be able to go it alone without some sort of support. But I don't find it fair to have say, a mother want to keep it... the father not and then yet the father is expected to pay for the child until they're 18. I suppose its one of the risks you take if you have sex, there is always a chance a pregnancy will happen.



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