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    Re: Who the hell exactly is Ultimecia?

    Hummmm, interesting take on the Holy aspect of Rinoa's powers. I'd never considered that.

    The other point about Ultimacia not knowing I could chalk up to her insanity or dissassociation with reality, but the magic set is a pretty good arguement you make.

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    Re: Who the hell exactly is Ultimecia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Locke4God View Post
    Hummmm, interesting take on the Holy aspect of Rinoa's powers. I'd never considered that.

    The other point about Ultimacia not knowing I could chalk up to her insanity or dissassociation with reality, but the magic set is a pretty good arguement you make.
    One thing that is weird is Ultimecia seems to have mind reading abilities, posted from her "animation" of Greiver.
    Also, from my understanding, Greiver is a real GF. But the one she summons is a complete difference than what is shown on Squalls necklace or ring.
    She also pierced Squalls shoulder with edeas attack with no hesitation.
    I don't think Rinoa would have done that.

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    Well as far as hurting Squall, think about the "you always hurt the ones you love" phenomenon. She obviously healed him after, which now that I think about it would answer a very big question that was left unanswered. After he's hurt, he wakes up in the prison with no injury whatsoever. It would actually make great since if Ultimacia (as Rinoa) had hurt him, then realized what'd she'd done and fixed it. Otherwise there is no answer and they never address the situation again.

    And I've always thought if Griever was simply a dead squall turned GF from the future, as the other GF's in the game are previously living entities, then that would demonstrate further her illogical obsession with him, and perhaps fuel her need to see him alive again.

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    Re: Who the hell exactly is Ultimecia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Locke4God View Post
    Well as far as hurting Squall, think about the "you always hurt the ones you love" phenomenon. She obviously healed him after, which now that I think about it would answer a very big question that was left unanswered. After he's hurt, he wakes up in the prison with no injury whatsoever. It would actually make great since if Ultimacia (as Rinoa) had hurt him, then realized what'd she'd done and fixed it. Otherwise there is no answer and they never address the situation again.

    And I've always thought if Griever was simply a dead squall turned GF from the future, as the other GF's in the game are previously living entities, then that would demonstrate further her illogical obsession with him, and perhaps fuel her need to see him alive again.
    Well when squall is revived, Seifer asked what seeD was. Ultimecia needed him alive to know. Greiver was stated to be a legendary GF, meaning Greiver can't be Squall, unless you are leaning to the form that the party battles.

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    I'll be honest, I've never noticed there to be different forms of Griever. I kind of thought the whole point of naming him earlier in the game was to show that he was at the very least unique in the final battle, and possibly that there was a deeper connection between the three of them. Why is Squall carrying around a necklace of this Legendary GF, and why is that GF presented as a symbol of the game? I'm just thinking out loud. That makes me think there's a more personal connection of the GF to squall himself and not that Squall just likes him or something.

    When/Where is it stated that Griever is a legendary (old) GF?

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    Re: Who the hell exactly is Ultimecia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Locke4God View Post
    I'll be honest, I've never noticed there to be different forms of Griever. I kind of thought the whole point of naming him earlier in the game was to show that he was at the very least unique in the final battle, and possibly that there was a deeper connection between the three of them. Why is Squall carrying around a necklace of this Legendary GF, and why is that GF presented as a symbol of the game? I'm just thinking out loud. That makes me think there's a more personal connection of the GF to squall himself and not that Squall just likes him or something.

    When/Where is it stated that Griever is a legendary (old) GF?
    Well, there are several sources, but the only one I can remember is scanning Greiver during the last battle.
    And the battle themse that plays is named Legendary beast or Legendary summon, one of those two.

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    Re: Who the hell exactly is Ultimecia?

    If that's the case then, I just don't get why Greiver then is such and important icon to Squall. That totally feels random. I mean why would he care so much as to have a necklace of it on him at all times, and other emblems in his room. Why would I the player care about this GF when I know nothing about it or it's history. There'd have to be more to it than that right?

    But I have a theory maybe that just occurred to me. If Ultimacia is from the future, then perhaps he's legendary from where he comes in the future? That would thusly be able to tie into the Rinoa=Ult, Squall=Greiver theories.

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