Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

[Heartless Angel]

Which is my main problem with her. She had the smarts and interesting abilities, but when it comes right down to it, she lost in a fair fight. That leads me to believe either her plan was flawed, or her powers were limitted in some way. Kuja's destroying a planet definitely makes him one of the top tier villains, but you have to consider their motives. Seph and Ulti weren't trying to destroy a planet at all, so the fact that they never did doesn't nescessarily mean they didn't have to power to do it. Now when you compare him side by side with villaisn who DID want to destroy the world, the fact tht he suceeded where they failed does say something, so I'd have to say Kuja is stronger than COD, Zeromus, Exdeath, and Kefka. But outside of vaillains with similar goals, planetary destruction isn't proof positive of Kuja being the strongest.

[the_savior21]

What about Sin there is no comparison sin has the most power aside from maybe kuja and also the only one who has more brains is kefka and ultimecia because of the remnents of all of the previous versions of sin that were absorbed by yu yevon

I could see maybe ultimecia or kuja but sin has the best if both worlds in my opinion it has to be sin

[Heartless Angel]

Sin is one we can't really comapre based on destruction achieved, because he wasn't trying to cause it. In fact, the one inside actively resists it at all times. If Sin had Drive and reason to kill, he'd probably be one of the strongest, but he doesn't. His intelligence is pretty much non existant. Sin runs almost entirely on instinct.

[the_savior21]

Sin is one we can't really comapre based on destruction achieved, because he wasn't trying to cause it. In fact, the one inside actively resists it at all times. If Sin had Drive and reason to kill, he'd probably be one of the strongest, but he doesn't. His intelligence is pretty much non existant. Sin runs almost entirely on instinct.

you are just proving my point sin wasnt even trying and he still destroyed all of spira more than once.

[Heartless Angel]

Motive and drive however are nescessary to acomplish anything, without these, Sin's power is meaningless. IF he had drive, yes he'd probably be the most dangerous, but since he doesn't, he isn't.

[Kurt Zisa]

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I agree you can't count Sin's strength in this just because it 'could' destroy Spira. i'm sure all of the villains would be more powerful then the other's 'if' they could do something they didn't do.

[the_savior21]

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I agree you can't count Sin's strength in this just because it 'could' destroy Spira. i'm sure all of the villains would be more powerful then the other's 'if' they could do something they didn't do.

its not just that sin "could" destroy spira he DID 3 times until the temples of yevon and the teachings came into play and still sin continued to destroy he did to kilika and he all he did was fly over he didnt even attack just went near and thesher force of his presence destroyed the village itself

[T.G. Oskar]

Motive and drive however are nescessary to acomplish anything, without these, Sin's power is meaningless. IF he had drive, yes he'd probably be the most dangerous, but since he doesn't, he isn't.

Well, he...has drive, it's just that it's best interpreted in the following way.

Sin is a Complete Monster with the mind of a Jerk with Heart of Gold and the soul of a Well Intentioned Extremist. So if you're speaking about Sin (body), it's mindless and thus has no drive; that doesn't mean it can't be strong, it's just that it needs to be guided. Sin (soul), aka Yu Yevon, has a drive that collapses that of Sin (mind), which would be Braska's Final Aeon. Both Sin (mind) and Sin (soul) have conflicting drives and reasons: Yu Yevon wishes to keep the dream alive, Jecht only hopes to withstand enough so as to allow his children (his real son Tidus and his pretty much adopted daughter Yuna) to stop it once and for all.

So yeah, depending on how you see Sin is how you can define it, but it's interesting to see a composite supermonster. Sin, though, either doesn't qualify as a final boss or you should consider the entirety of the battle since you fight Sin's carcass up until you fight Yu Yevon as a final boss battle. Sorta like, to use another example, one of the endings of SaGa Frontier. It's more Fridge Brilliance than anything else.

[T.G. Oskar]

Which is my main problem with her. She had the smarts and interesting abilities, but when it comes right down to it, she lost in a fair fight. That leads me to believe either her plan was flawed, or her powers were limitted in some way.

It also seems a bit realistic. I wouldn't say Squall and co. won because of a flaw in her plan (though I will admit, Ellone was a rather risky tool to use) or limitations in her power; rather, it was a caveat that allowed them to fight in "equal terms". It was the fact that, while Ellone was useful for her, it was also useful for them; the fact that she sealed the group's power beforehand is just an example that she wasn't trying to play fair.

Now when you compare him side by side with villaisn who DID want to destroy the world, the fact tht he suceeded where they failed does say something, so I'd have to say Kuja is stronger than COD, Zeromus, Exdeath, and Kefka.

It might be a bit of a nitpick, but Kefka wasn't really thinking of destroying the world when he succeeded on his plan to gain the power of the Statues. Claim it was sheer luck or something else, but he did manage to bring the world to a state of near-death, and it was mostly later on that he decided just terrorizing the world wasn't enough. It's important because you see how his victory (the way it may have been) reshapes the world and drains the hopes of everybody. So I wouldn't say Kefka failed; still, that doesn't make him the strongest, admitting Ulti could finish him off easily on equal terms. Or Kuja going on Trance (but probably only on Trance; one of the things I do like about him is that his "final form" isn't monstrous or gigantic but rather realistic).