Getting On My Soapbox

[Rocky]

What some of you should understand is that it is up to the moderators to decide what is appropriate and what isn't.

This brings up an interesting idea.

It appears that out of all my posts that I have made, the majority come from General Chat. After being a contributing member for the GC forum for so long, I'd like to think I have an idea on how at least that forum on TFF works. Anyways, instead of having mods directly choose someone else on who should be in charge of the forum, why not ask the community who would be a good candidate?

Being a direct part of the community, I feel that at the very least I should have a small say in who is able to interpret what I say on the forums.

Let's run a mock trial of it. Say a mod spot opened up in the FFX forum. Though I don't know how choosing a new mod works (I assume you guys do a vote in the mod forum between yourselves or something?), but instead of that, you make an announcement thread or whatever. Then it would open up to community's thoughts. I would make a reply, and I would choose Polk because I feel like he has a lot of knowledge in that forum, plus I feel that he is also a respectable member of the community. There would be more nominations or second notions for candidates, and then the mods would decide on a mod from there, or maybe they would feel like there were no good candidates, or maybe they would come to the conclusion that there is no need for getting another mod at the time.

Anywho, I just feel like if we want to get a more diverse and new group of community members, we should start by striving to build a more diverse and new group of moderators as well. Some of them seem out of touch with their own community. How are we supposed to follow their lead if they don't know the way themselves?

Just trying to give new ideas for the forums, comments/criticism please. Sorry if it sounds charlie, it's 3am and it sounded cool at the time, night all and I <3 tff. :3

[Furore]

Let's run a mock trial of it. Say a mod spot opened up in the FFX forum. Though I don't know how choosing a new mod works (I assume you guys do a vote in the mod forum between yourselves or something?), but instead of that, you make an announcement thread or whatever. Then it would open up to community's thoughts. I would make a reply, and I would choose Polk because I feel like he has a lot of knowledge in that forum, plus I feel that he is also a respectable member of the community. There would be more nominations or second notions for candidates, and then the mods would decide on a mod from there, or maybe they would feel like there were no good candidates, or maybe they would come to the conclusion that there is no need for getting another mod at the time.

Then Mod positions would likely become a popularity contest and that kind of thing rarely works, particularly if they have a good amount of power. There's a reason your average Joe doesn't become a politicion even if he is very popular.

The mods are fine 95% of the time now (a higher percentage than most other forums out there). They're fairly lax while still tightening down on bullshit. Hell I'd say the ones complaining now were quite guilty of that bullshit.

[Unknown Entity]

Then Mod positions would likely become a popularity contest and that kind of thing rarely works, particularly if they have a good amount of power. There's a reason your average Joe doesn't become a politicion even if he is very popular.

I agree. When the popular people of a group become the 'leaders', they tend to be put in a position when their friends have done wrong, need to be punished, and they don't have the heart to do anything. If they do do something, then the friend gets butthurt and complains about it.

You know, the whole "but you're my friend... *puppy dog eyes*" card. Mods need to be ruthless sometimes, and still be able to contribute without being cussed by people they thought were their friends. I enjoy this community because the mods play an active part in being 'one of us'. There're not there as just to slap warnings around like in most forums, but they jump in and get their hands dirty.

Personally, I'd like to see H/WG to stay. I don't think that getting rid of it would change much except bring the spammers out on to GC and other sections of the forum, which is what I thought we were trying to prevent. If anything, I think H/WG needs a HUGE makeover. Older games need to be deleted, there needs to be some sort order there. Someone said something earlier about games needing approval before the thread is made, which I think for certain games (*cough*Elimination Games*cough*) is a good idea.

That section of the forum is ignored by most of the older (in both time here and their physical age) members, and they're the ones who want it gone. That's not fair to the people who do use it.

I think, with the right limitations over there, we can get some traffic moving in other parts of the forum with the traffic from there. If we apply SOME of the same rules there as we use here, people will feel more confident about posting in the bigger sections. I sound like I want to make H/WG a boring place, but really I think that 75% of the member who post there are a little intimidated about posting in other areas.

[Merlin]

Back in the day, rampant spam-infested threads blanketed GC. To mitigate the damage and not run off people who enjoy such activities, the Word Games forum was born. Sure, I wouldn't mind all that stuff being obliterated from the face of the planet, but there are plenty of people who do enjoy that.

I fail to see how deleting it would boost activity. If anything, you would be killing activity even further. Sure, it isn't the best kind of activity to have, but your post counts,etc there don't count anyway(unless someone changed it). Right now it sounds like a bunch of kids on summer vacation whining that there isn't anything to do and they are bored. Rather than forming gangs to bully people, you should start forming programs to encourage yourselves and others to become active in constructive ways. I'm doing my part by trying to redesign the boards. What are you doing to make TFF a great place? Let's get busy, shall we?