How should FF15 be?

[Trodorne]

oh and something else to add to my list.

if you want to appeal to both old school fans and the new kids to get them hooks which i suggest 15 should be the last.

Story line.

Two seperate stories on two disks.

Disk 1. have a story take place in a medieval high fantasy enviroment. and have a main villian who lets say looks to be killed by sucked into a crystal and shattered. make some story of involving the crystals and the job classes either going back to random battles with all the ATB blahs and blahs.

Disk 2. Seperate game where it is 10,000 years into the future. you can have pre rendered characters with cut scenes galore taking place in a futuristic city with guns, motorcycles and micheal bay esque explosions every few mins. make it japanese themed too does not mean ill play the disk. but that same villian from the first disk and other story will be the influence of this story. and the heros can tralalala about and have some sort of centralized love story that is ground breaking with music with 1 or two comic relief characters that act like total fools and a bad ass ally/ villian that does not care for the main character and gets them to act like an adult by calling them a fool and at some point they fight and the main character wins and the bad ass aknowledges the main characters power and follows him/ her still. blah blah blah. im sure SE can fill in the blanks.

[Zargabaath]

oh and something else to add to my list.

if you want to appeal to both old school fans and the new kids to get them hooks which i suggest 15 should be the last.

Story line.

Two seperate stories on two disks.

Disk 1. have a story take place in a medieval high fantasy enviroment. and have a main villian who lets say looks to be killed by sucked into a crystal and shattered. make some story of involving the crystals and the job classes either going back to random battles with all the ATB blahs and blahs.

Disk 2. Seperate game where it is 10,000 years into the future. you can have pre rendered characters with cut scenes galore taking place in a futuristic city with guns, motorcycles and micheal bay esque explosions every few mins. make it japanese themed too does not mean ill play the disk. but that same villian from the first disk and other story will be the influence of this story. and the heros can tralalala about and have some sort of centralized love story that is ground breaking with music with 1 or two comic relief characters that act like total fools and a bad ass ally/ villian that does not care for the main character and gets them to act like an adult by calling them a fool and at some point they fight and the main character wins and the bad ass aknowledges the main characters power and follows him/ her still. blah blah blah. im sure SE can fill in the blanks.

What the ... ... ...

No, just plain no. Two different stories for 1 Final Fantasy and it isn't even something like a Chrono Trigger where they have some similiarities. Dear Yevon, just no. I've read your posts and it seems that maybe FF or JRPGs in general are not your thing - Diablo 3 is coming out relatively soon so you can play that.

But most of your ideas seem to be more for a Western stye RPG; let JRPGs be JRPGs and WRPGs be WRPGS and not try to have JRPGs become WRPGs.

It also seems that you are one of those types of gamer who really really really cares about jumping, swimming, etc and not on the actual game or that you blow those out of proportion - if you want the games to be real then how about you have 1 life then the game is over and then you have to start from the beginning? Too real for you? Then don't ask for games to be real because you'd probably be upset about it being too real eventually.

Also, as said by others, fantasy is not strictly sword and sorcery (that is high fantasy), fantasy can have sci-fi elements are be sci-fi entirely - it is a fictitious world (a.k.a a fantasy world). Futhermore, guns don't make a game not a fantasy, the usage of guns in Final Fantasy haven't made them sci-fi or not fantasy at all.


As I said in this thread before, let FF XV be FF XV, stop placing expectations/wants/needs on games in general and go with what the game offers instead of criticizing for what it doesn't. But that is unlikely.

[Trodorne]

i thought the final fantasy series was all about bring new ideas to the table and the fan base accepting just about anything the company puts out. from Final fantasy VII sequels to die hard followers of 13 before it even came out. change in the game play will be inevitable its a matter on how willing of change will the audience be.

the thing is about the Japanese market they are very adaptable. so what if aspects of western culture is mixed with a Japanese title the game itself will still be unique as has been all other final fantasies. though i despise the later games like 10 and up. i treat SE like a business. and in business terms they don't give a fly fart about any of the fans, and they never will. as long as people keep squealing with joy anytime a final fantasy title comes out they will do what they want.

so we can debate all we want about what should and should not be on there. or you can let people say their ideas and leave them be as harmless imaginative ideas or just delete the thread.

if you really want to shoot someone down as something to do to pass the time ill set up a thread where you can bash me and my ideas all you want. until then those are just ideas from a personal gamers stand point.

[Zargabaath]

i thought the final fantasy series was all about bring new ideas to the table and the fan base accepting just about anything the company puts out.

While the series is about change and bringing new things to the table, the fanbase will cry and pout over change now - unfortunately.

the thing is about the Japanese market they are very adaptable.

No they are not. Many top developers for big gaming companies have said that they wished the japanese gamer to open up more to more/new ideas. Some of those guys were from Konami and SE I believe.

so what if aspects of western culture is mixed with a Japanese title the game itself will still be unique as has been all other final fantasies.

Now RPG players are wanting JRPGs to be more like WRPGs - they just want all WRPGs; as I said let JRPGs be JRPGs and WRPGs be WRPGs. And what you suggested was not a little bit. As others have said there is FF XI and soon FF XIV for you to play or wait for Diablo 3.

though i despise the later games like 10 and up. i treat SE like a business. and in business terms they don't give a fly fart about any of the fans, and they never will. as long as people keep squealing with joy anytime a final fantasy title comes out they will do what they want.

Actually they do care because if nobody wants to buy their product they go under like Atlantis. A business should care about how the consumer views their product that way to make a better product to get... what? MORE PROFITS! YAY!

so we can debate all we want about what should and should not be on there. or you can let people say their ideas and leave them be as harmless imaginative ideas or just delete the thread.

If you don't want your ideas debated than posting on a forum is not the wisest decision, otherwise be prepared that people will disagree with you.

if you really want to shoot someone down as something to do to pass the time ill set up a thread where you can bash me and my ideas all you want. until then those are just ideas from a personal gamers stand point.

Don't want to bash you. Don't care about bashing you. Don't care about you which is why I wouldn't waste my time just bashing you, I have better things to do like - Xenogears - however I may sometimes have time to either agree or disagree with you.




Loaf, FF IX did add something to the series that I would love to make a return in another installment - Active Time Events.