What do you guys think of the Ten Commandments (Ten Words)?

[vevuxking102]

No human can honestly say they're sure they understand the soul. I care more for what I see as right and wrong. All there is to say here.

But the Bible says you can understand the soul, so I believe you can.

Some would see it as fictional.

Well, who's advocating it as real? Is it not fictional? I don't even remember where it's from, but I believe it's a in between afterlife, an idea blasphemous to Christianity.

Just as some would see Christianity as fictional. I've read enough texts to say I believe in it. A place where sins are purged. But believe what you will.

Who's telling you that such a fictional place? And only Jesus Christ purges sin, no single location can.

Too right. The bible is that open to interpretation, I could see many things any way I like really.

I don't believe the Bible is open to interpretation, and I do believe if you see it the way you want it to be, you're headed for Hell.

As can you, and any other Christian. I don't hold much stock in most man written religious texts though.

But the Bible was written by God, through his human pencils.

Especially with the ease people have edited other things. Look at those councils in times past for example. And all the different versions too.

How does that falsify it?

I'd need to be able to read the original bible in it's original language and format to put my complete trust in it.

It's called the Hebrew/Greek Bible. The Bible has been preserved in it's original meaning.

There's also that I feel no human language could convey everything from a higher being such as God.

Why? What makes God above using languages to communicate?

Because it's still wrong. It's just the lesser of multiple evils at times. It really depends on how a person sees things.

There is no greater or lesser evil, all evil is evil.

Or does it? It does in it's own way say there are times it is justifiable to kill someone.

Of course the Bible says to kill people, since it's right to kill. Just not to murder.

Call killing whatever you want. It's still killing. Murder is just a word for it.

No it's not.

Not necessarily. There are times when the lesser of two evils is the best option.

There is no lesser evil. All evil is evil, the Bible is clear on that.

[Furore]

But the Bible says you can understand the soul, so I believe you can.

No it doesn't. And if it does it doesn't mean directly. The human mind has it's limits. And as I've heard much more compelling arguments with much more evidence than anything you've brought up thus far.... yeah.

Well, who's advocating it as real? Is it not fictional? I don't even remember where it's from, but I believe it's a in between afterlife, an idea blasphemous to Christianity.

I for one advocate it as real as do several other places.

In Roman Catholic Christianity, purgatory is the condition, process, or place of purification or temporary punishment in which the souls of those who die in a state of grace are made ready for heaven.[1]

Some other Christian denominations also assert the possibility of an improvement in the soul's spiritual situation following death. The Eastern Orthodox Church believes in the possibility of a change of situation for the souls of the dead through the prayers of the living and the offering of the Divine Liturgy,[2] and many Orthodox, especially among ascetics, hope and pray for a general apocatastasis[3]A similar belief in at least the possibility of a final salvation for all is held by Mormonism.[4] Moreover Judaism also believes in the possibility of after-death purification[5] and may even use the word "purgatory" to present its understanding of the meaning of Gehenna.[6] However, the concept of soul "purification may be explicitly denied in these other faith traditions.

The word "purgatory" is also used, in a non-specific sense, to mean any place or condition of suffering or torment, especially one that is temporary.[7]

My God, a lot of Christians really should. Blasphemous that, it was your own opinion and nothing more. Christianity is that broad a term, few things apply completely along all Christians.

Who's telling you that such a fictional place? And only Jesus Christ purges sin, no single location can.

I don't really agree with some views on purgatory, but to me myself, it is merely the cleansing of sins. And I would imagine that it is a painful process as if it were not there'd be no punishment for sins that may be forgiven.

I don't believe the Bible is open to interpretation, and I do believe if you see it the way you want it to be, you're headed for Hell.

The bible HAS to be open to interpretation due to the way it's written. It has more metaphors and hidden messages than anything I've ever read. And believe me I've read some pretty cryptic shit.

But the Bible was written by God, through his human pencils.

Since when did humans become Godly writing instruments? The Bible was written by man with the message God provided. It's accuracy in certain parts is debatable. Some denominations have even added or taken out content. Or even edited things somewhat.

How does that falsify it?

It was edited by men. And even men with the best intentions **** up at times. That's part of what it means to be human. And then there may also have been those with their own hidden agendas. From what I hear, there has been a lot of corruption within Christianity at certain point in time.

It's called the Hebrew/Greek Bible. The Bible has been preserved in it's original meaning.

And I don't understand Greek or Hebrew, so like many I am forced to make do with translations. And many things lose some of their meaning when translated. Or take in entirely new meanings. Do you understand and have access to an original?

Why? What makes God above using languages to communicate?

Nothing. But we're below understanding many things. Especially those fundamentalist types that don't even seem to be completely there in the head. I've conversed with a few...

Humans are imperfect, not God. And as He communicates the way He does for reasons only He knows, none can be sure they have the correct meanings.

There is no greater or lesser evil, all evil is evil.

Aye, evil is evil, just as good is good. But I very much doubt there's any way a person can do an act purely good or purely evil. Every action has both positive and negative consequences, and these can include both good and evil. If you believe yourself incapable of evil, you're guilty of pride, which IS a sin by the way. One of the seven deadly sins. It's a sin as it can be responsible for the suffering of others which is evil when you're benefiting.

Of course the Bible says to kill people, since it's right to kill. Just not to murder.

Oh it's right to kill is it? That don't sound like a good Christian attitude. Let's go kill everyone that sins. yay! Purge the evil etc.
I'll throw what you said right back in your face. Evil is evil.
Call it what you want, hide behind some obscure text, that doesn't make it right at all.

No it's not.

Ah... yeah it sort of is. Or why isn't it? Enlighten me, I'm all ears.

There is no lesser evil. All evil is evil, the Bible is clear on that.

No it's not. The bible isn't clear on anything and if you think it is clear on something you obviously haven't looked it over well enough. Or you have a very corrupted version. The Lord speaks in mysterious ways, he doesn't say 'Ok mates, these are the ground rules, these are the little sub laws with this and that yadda yadda yadda.'